The Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 will be made by… Samsung

by: Edgar CervantesJanuary 14, 2016
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While usually seen as competitors, Qualcomm and Samsung are about to embark on a very cozy trip to your smartphone’s innards. Samsung has just announced mass production of their 14nm LPP(Low-Power Plus) has begun.

As expected, this technology will be embedded right into Samsung’s upcoming Exynos 8 Octa processor, but it won’t be the only one rocking all the goodies. Samsung is certainly willing and able to partner up with other chip makers, and one of them happens to be Qualcomm.

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As you can assume (and read in the title), this does mean that the Korean manufacturing will be producing the almighty Snapdragon 820, which is expected to power plenty of flagship handsets in 2016.

“We are pleased to start production of our industry-leading, 2nd generation 14nm FinFET process technology that delivers the highest level of performance and power efficiency.” -Charlie Bae, Executive Vice President of Sales & Marketing, System LSI Business, Samsung Electronics

That’s right, even if your phone is powered by Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 820 chipset, it will be a Samsung-made SoC. In the battle of tech, the only winner seems to be that with the most profits, and if it means making money Samsung will definitely get in bed with the San Diego-based chip maker. We even got to see a Samsung demo tablet running a BRITECELL 1.34um camera sensor at CES, which just so happened to be powered by a Snapdragon 820.

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And it is no surprise. After all, Samsung has been working very closely with another main competitor – Apple. They also provide screen technology for many other companies, and their manufacturing services are not about to stop.

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As always, Qualcomm and Samsung will still battle for your pocket. Both are expected to be great contenders, but we have to mention we did spend some time with the Snapdragon 820 at CES and walked out quite impressed. The LeTV Le Max Pro is the first handset to come with Qualcomm’s chipset, and its benchmarks reach well over the 130,000 AnTuTu milestone. Insane!

 

  • Ben Murphy

    So….that makes it the ‘Samsung’ Snapdragon 820.

    • David Onter

      No, it doesn’t. Just as the Apple iPhone 6S is not the Foxconn iPhone 6S or the Apple A9 is not the Samsung A9. Samsung is only producing the chips. The Snapdragon 820 was thought of Qualcomm, designed by Qualcomm and commissioned by Qualcomm. Samsung is only providing the manufacturing facilities.

      • venjamin Alico

        Like sharing there equipments to other competitors?.

    • Милен Стефанов

      How can someone be so stupid?

      • Ben Murphy

        It was a joke, relax hombre

    • Boss

      Lol ?????yah!

    • ASYOUTHIA

      *’SungDragon 820

  • Bak Choi Kim

    Eww…

  • VerlandersPhone

    Clearly this is heart-breaking news for some.

  • Marty

    For those concerned, this is a non-issue. Samsung is good at constructing chips, not designing or engineering them. Samsung will only be constructing Qualcomm chips, not designing or engineering them.

    It’s clear Samsung knows nothing about designing and engineering a good chip because they never have. But they have been constructing Apple chips and now will be constructing Qualcomm chips. They are good at that, they have the tools to do that well. But just like Samsung can’t do software to save themselves, they also can’t do chip design to save themselves. So just because they are constructing Qualcomm chips, in no way are they designing Qualcomm chips.

    • Luka Bulatović

      By what you said, if I understood correctly, Samsung has never made a good chip by themselves. And what about Exynos 7420? Isn’t it the best on the market (in 2015)?

      • Marty

        Samsung certainly makes a powerful chip, and apparently one that gets good results in tests, but overall performance has never been good with Samsung designed and engineered chips…in my experience.

        But good test results does not a good chip make. Real world usage and conditions are the deciding factor and they fail there.

        • David Onter

          Yeah. 3 years ago they did. But not now.

          • Marty

            The CPU in my Galaxy S6 is pretty da mned impressive for benchmark numbers. In real world use it sucks bad and I can’t stand to use it. But in benchmarks and tests, it’s one he lluva powerful chip. But if power was all that mattered, the Exynos would win. I, however, prefer smoothness of operation and laglessness. I don’t like my device stuttering when I need to quickly open an app or do something.

        • Luka Bulatović

          Sorry to hear that you had such a bad experience, however in real world use Exynos 7420 is absolutely the best. They certainly didn’t fail with the Galaxy S6 (from which I’m typing this). Compare it to any non-overheating SD810 device like Nexus 6P. Besides from RAM issue, that chip has nothing to do with, it’s just as smooth at worst.

          • Marty

            And that’s your opinion. I find Samsung chips to be the worst.

    • SteveJobs_TheWalkingDead

      What are you talking about? Samsung designs and manufactures their own Exynos 8890 chips.

      • Marty

        Of course. But Samsung does not design and engineer Qualcomm nor Apple chips. They only construct them.

        • SteveJobs_TheWalkingDead

          I was talking about your statement that “It’s clear Samsung knows nothing about designing and engineering a good chip because they never have.” That was a general statement and as such is wrong.

          You are correct in that Samsung does not design Qualcomm’s or Apple’s chips but the same can be said about them not designing Samsung’s chips. In addition, out of all three, Samsung is the only one that CAN manufacture their own chips as well.

          • Marty

            Samsung can’t design a decent chip. And that is apparent from my experience. Samsung can’t do software good either. But just because they can create software, does not mean it’s good software. Same applies to their chips. Samsung’s chips are lower than dung, they’re so crappy.

          • SteveJobs_TheWalkingDead

            They are so bad that’s why the Exynos chips are one of the fastest chips running Android? I guess you haven’t heard that Exynos 8890 chips and breaking performance records on Antutu and they haven’t even been optimized fully yet. Look, I know you love Apple, but to make up stories based on “your experience” is so over the top it just makes you look like the most biased person ever.

          • Marty

            I never said they aren’t powerful or fast. In fact, I’ve always said the 7420 in my GS6 is powerful. But they suck in real world use because something causes them to lag and stutter the system. And it isn’t Touchwiz doing it.

          • SteveJobs_TheWalkingDead

            I work with numerous iPhones and Blackberries, both old and new. There hasn’t been one model of iphone (even the newest model 6s) that I have not witnessed lag, stutter, hardware glitch and random reboots. Unless you work in IT like I do, you personally may not have witnessed it but I have on numerous occasions. That happens to all phones. So what?

          • Marty

            Hmmm…that’s curious. I know my niece has had issues with her iPhone 6. But it’s usually related to memory…having too many apps installed for a 16GB. And also never clearing her call logs and messages. She uses hers for work.

            Maybe that’s why my experience with my iPad is so good, no calls and no messages.

          • SteveJobs_TheWalkingDead

            Well here is something even more curious for you, we have issues from time to time with our ipads as well. No piece of tech is impervious to issues.

          • Marty

            And no piece of tech will work well when not properly maintained.

            All I can tell you is I have a more reliable and usable experience on my iPad than anything else.

          • SteveJobs_TheWalkingDead

            And all I am saying is that my experience is different just by the numbers of iphonesipadsmacbooks etc. I have to deal with.

          • Marty

            And your experience is valid. I accept it and appreciate you relating it.

            And I have seen AT&T store employees having annoying issues with the iPads they use.

    • Anon

      hey look, someone who doesnt know what he’s talking about, yet very sure of himself

      • Marty

        Oh…so personal experience counts for nothing? The only thing that counts is what someone else says, right?

        • I-C-E-D

          Personal experience counts for nothing. Unless you can show statistics, surveys, or other metrics that objectively support your statement, you shouldn’t be surprised when someone calls you on your bs.

          • Marty

            Like I’m calling you on your B.S.

            Screw your “statistics”. I’m a consumer with views and I’d love to see YOU try to stop me from expressing them. [da mn that felt good]

            You don’t like what I have to say, close your fu cking eyes.

          • I-C-E-D

            Marty, you’re missing the point. You may be a consumer with views (and you’re free to express them wherever you’d like), but people aren’t calling out your anecdotes. They’re calling out the fact that you are 100% incorrect in your statements. Statements are different than opinions, as statements deal with facts, not emotions.

            As other comments have pointed out, sentences within your comment such as:

            “Samsung is good at constructing chips, not designing or engineering them.”

            “It’s clear Samsung knows nothing about designing and engineering a good chip because they never have.”

            “But just like Samsung can’t do software to save themselves, they also can’t do chip design to save themselves.”

            are all incorrect. It’s not even a question of right or wrong. There’s nothing to be discussed. You are wrong in stating any of those things, and the worst part is you seem to think that you have a right to post misinformation and not be criticized for it.

          • Marty

            And that is your opinion. My so called “statements” remain as they are because they are based on actual experience. I don’t expect anyone to believe what I say just because I say it. All I am doing is adding my views to the mix so they can be on record, so to speak. People then can compare their experience with my views and make a determination for themselves about it. But when I’m called a liar based on the sharing of my experience, that is outright idiocy. It shows that the person calling me a liar has a personal interest in the wellbeing of the company involved.

            I care nothing about “statistics” or that other stuff. I only care about sharing my views. And that I will do.

          • I-C-E-D

            Alright Marty, this will be my last comment, so I’ll humor you. Your statements are supposedly “based on actual experience”. Let’s examine that experience, shall we?

            “Samsung is good at constructing chips, not designing or engineering them.”

            What experience do you have designing mobile chips? Do you work for ARM? For Nvidia? Intel? Huawei? Perhaps you were a pioneer? Maybe you have an engineering degree and access to Samsung’s chip designs in order to make a statement like this? Maybe you’re actually a highly educated reviewer with experience dealing with multiple chips like the people over at Anandtech are? Do tell, Marty.

            “It’s clear Samsung knows nothing about designing and engineering a good chip because they never have.”

            In what world are you living Marty? Samsung has never designed a good chip? Samsung has designed chips for products across its portfolio, from smartphones to TVs to laundry machines and refrigerators. Its products dominate Korea, and the S6 was one of the most bought phones in the world in 2015. Their chips were one of the best of 2015 according to multiple tech reviewers. What experience do you have judging whether or not a chip is good, Marty?

            “But just like Samsung can’t do software to save themselves, they also can’t do chip design to save themselves.”

            Because you write software and design chips, right? Obviously the two are basically the same thing, and doing one will automatically mean that you’re good at doing the other. Once again, I haven’t seen anything to indicate you would have experience with either. Do you have a CS degree on top of the engineering degree? Perhaps you’re a coding engineer? Maybe you’re privy to information the rest of us on Android Authority don’t have, and thus have a base to make your statements?

            Truth is, Marty, you have no experience. No one believes you. Nobody cares about your views, and no one is going to compare their views against yours because you’re so hopeless ignorant but still arrogant enough to think that your views are worth sharing. You don’t care for facts, statistics, or real information.

            Good day, Marty. Bless your soul.

          • Marty

            Whatever, dude. You’re allowed your opinion, and you’ve expressed it. It just happens to be you defaming a consumer rather than a company.

            You probably can’t see it, but you look like a corporate stooge doing PR.

            God bless you, too. ;)

        • Anon

          this isn’t something that you can change with personal opinions.
          you cant have an opinion that humans dont need oxygen to survive. i mean you can, but it will be just bullshit.
          samsung manufactures and designs their own chips which perform at least on par with qualcomm chips.
          qualcomm designs but is unable to manufacture them.
          one more thing, this isn’t making clothes or radios. manufacturing here is cutting edge and high tech. qualcomm wont be able to do anything with their designs if samsung didnt provide the tech to manufacture 14nm transistors.

    • coldspring22 .

      What about Exynos 8 octa pictured in this article? Who designed that? Martians?

      • Marty

        Close. Asians. :D

  • Dusan

    130k AnTuTu, well I will be impressed once those points actually mean anything in GPU department. My Edge+ can reach over 100k with custom kernel, but GPU is still weak. What can I say, I’m a gamer at heart and this is why Tegra X1 is a lot better chip in my opinion.

  • Good News for Samsung!

  • Kody

    Wow, not only will they be making a little extra from their competition, they could probably get the chips for a good price and probably lower the cost of the GS7, or keep the price around the same to increase profit.