Oh boy ladies and gents, time to grab that popcorn. TouchWiz is one of those subjects that really seems to fire people up, with some saying it’s the greatest thing to ever happen to mobile, others outcrying that it is a bloated, soul-sucking devil.

As someone who has primarily, though not exclusively, used Nexus devices as daily drivers going back to the Nexus 4, I have certainly gotten in a ‘LagWiz’ joke or two at Samsung’s expense, and have enjoyed teasing some of my Galaxy-wielding colleagues (ahem… Nirave… cough, cough) for their smartphone choices. Being honest though, I haven’t used a Galaxy as a true daily driver since the Galaxy S2, with only brief periods (hours, days, etc) spent messing with more recent devices like the Galaxy S6 and the Note 5.

That all changed a little bit over a week ago, when I took the Galaxy S7 Edge out of its box.

Alongside Lanh, who will do the video review, I’ll be bringing you a full (written) review of the Galaxy S7 Edge in the very near future, as we wanted to slow things down and make sure we provided the best review possible, instead of rushing out of the gate. That said, I do want share a surprising revelation that occurred to me over the last week or so: TouchWiz in’t necessarily the monster in the closet I once believed it to be.

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“Better than stock?” No, I wouldn’t go that far. I still enjoy the clean, fluid, and fast experience that is stock Android. I also really miss software keys when using a Samsung phone, though Gala know that’s sort of a minor thing.

What I can say is that when I first got the S7 Edge, I assumed that the minute that the review was over, I’d instantly pop out my SIM card and go running to my Nexus 6P crying. With tears running down my cheek, I’d hold it tightly and tell it about all the horrible things that TouchWiz had done to me. And my Nexus would make it all better.

In truth, I will likely return to my Nexus 6P in time, but I’m in no massive hurry to do so – much to my own surprise. At the end of the day, the Nexus series will remain my go-to option long-term for a number of reasons, including keeping up with Android updates. This is doubly true right now, with the release of Android N’s first preview. That said — without giving away too much about my final opinions of the phone (which I’m still formulating) — I must say there’s a lot to love about the Galaxy S7 Edge and I’m quite impressed by it.

As we speak, my fellow Nexus fanboys are likely ripping up my membership card. Yes, we have a secret club where we sacrifice heretical devices to the Google-y gods so that they may blesseth us with a bloat-free existence.Nevermind, I’ve said too much.

The upcoming review will give my full impressions of all aspects of the Galaxy S7 Edge, and in that review I’ll be fully throwing aside any bias I might regarding stock Android, because that’s how fair reviews should be. As for this feature, I want to talk about a few things I really think Samsung has gotten right on the software side, and even some things that they are doing better than Google is with Stock Android.

Keep in mind these aren’t the only things about TouchWiz I may have found pleasant to use, but certainly the elements that stick out the most to me.

TouchWiz features I really like

Multi-window

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This point was a lot more valid just a few days ago when I started brainstorming the idea for this feature. With Android N, things are going to get a whole lot more even. But they aren’t there yet. In its current form, Android N’s split-screen mode is a bit clunky and works with very few apps. In contrast, Samsung’s floating window and multi-window features are easy to use, easy to learn, and there’s a great number of apps compatible with it. Sure, not everything allows these features (like Samsung’s Calculator… which I don’t get…), but many do.

Even if stock Android seems to have finally picked up on the usefulness of multi-window, at least for now, Samsung’s implementation is clearly better. Of course, Android N is going to keep evolving between now and its final form (Android 7.0), so this feature set could be much more on par in the near future.

That dialer

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I have never liked 3rd party dialers. I hate Huawei’s, I have no major love for LG’s either. I’ve also downloaded numerous apps and many of them aren’t my cup of tea. Stock dialer for the win… until I started to get used to Samsung’s dialer. Not only is it clean and easy to use, it also has some really cool features. It’s optional ability to determine if a number is a spammer is very useful for example, though stock Android in its current iteration does have some similar features and is expanding its ‘blocking/filtering’ features in Android N as well. That said, it seems like Samsung’s features are a bit deeper here.

Beyond this, what I really like is the flexibility of the dialer with the ability to reject calls and send a preset message, or simply message them a custom one. The dialer’s looks aren’t at all bad either, with a layout at is actually somewhat similar to what you get with stock but with some Samsung tweaks and changes mixed in. Bottom-line, the dialer is clean, easy to use, and rivals the stock Android dialer – at least in my humble opinion.

Theming

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I’m not much for using a “theme engine” on phones, but mainly because most theming engines aren’t that great. I do really like how deep Samsung lets you take things though. In fact, it’s perfectly possible to make the notification shade and settings look “almost” like stock Android. Sure it’s different, but as close as you’re going to get with a custom skin like this. Many theming options simply don’t go that deep.

The Samsung Theme engine store could use some better organization, and it would be nice if they better promoted some of the cooler themes, but it’s still a really well implemented feature despite some minor quirks.

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With Android M, it was possible to edit some things and “turn on” theming. It was a primitive mess, but as a concept, I really liked the idea of giving consumers more customization power. I haven’t yet experimented to see if this feature remains in Android N (though I plan to soon), but it would be certainly nice if stock Android eventually offered some kind of theming experience and here’s to hoping they take some inspiration from Samsung in its implementation if and when they do.

Flexibility in options

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Rooting, ROMing, Xposed modules, Tasker – yes, stock Android is very flexible and customizable. That said, these are things that require tinkering. Out of the box, stock Android is a squeaky clean slate that you must crack open and dig in deep to turn it into something custom tailored to your needs. For many, that is the appeal and I tend to agree. But I have to say that despite having a ton of extras, Samsung doesn’t force them down your throat anymore. 

despite having a ton of extras, Samsung doesn't force them down your throat anymore.

Don’t like that Always on Display? That’s cool, toggle it off (in fact, many carrier models have this toggled off by default). Want to make things look more like stock? Sure, there’s a theme or two for that in the store. Don’t want an app drawer? No you don’t need to put on an iOS-style launcher, just toggle drawer off in Galaxy Labs. Total newb? There’s an easy mode that makes things … easier. The same goes for stuff like Smart Manager, Samsung Pay, S-voice, and so much more. All these ‘extras’ are there if you want them, but ignoring them is just as easy and nearly all them are not enabled by default. In fact, I’m sure most “casual users” will never even realize 50% of these extra options even exist. That’s a fair cry different from Samsung’s old strategy of “prompting you” into using various gimmicks and tweaks through its tutorial system.

Yes, I realize it is a touch ironic to praise Samsung for having hundreds of options, as these extras have often been called out as ‘bloat’, and goes against the very nature of stock Android. Of course it all comes down to what your definition of bloat is.

For me, I have a problem with tons of pre-installed apps I’m never going to use but that constantly haunt me in app drawer, homescreen, and so forth. Samsung has some of these (Microsoft and Samsung apps) but not nearly as much as they once had. Tons of non-obtrusive settings and toggle-able options that I won’t see every day unless I’m looking for it? I have no problem with this, and there’s almost reassuring about knowing I have options, in case I ever want to explore them. And honestly, some of these options can actually be pretty useful once you adjust to them.

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The only reason I would complain about these extras are if they slowed down the Galaxy S7 Edge’s day-today. But honestly, they don’t, at least not thus far.

Yes, TouchWiz does use a lot of RAM – with only about 1 to 1.2GB free most of the time, out of 4GB – but sluggishness isn’t a major issue for Samsung in 2016. Yes, there’s a slight delay in parts of the launcher on occasion, but not to the point that it gets in the way. If you consider even ‘slight dropped frames’ to be an issue, it’s important to keep in mind that a 3rd party launcher removes this issue altogether.

My Overall impressions of TouchWiz

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I really enjoyed my Galaxy S2, but never was that keen on the software. One of my best friends had an Galaxy S5 and I borrowed it for 24 hours, and remember thinking it was total junk. This reaffirmed in my mind that moving on from Samsung after the S2 was the right move. With the Galaxy S7 Edge (and the S7), however, I will admit that Samsung finally seems to get it. Talking with co-workers, and based on my limited time with the Galaxy S6 and Note 5, this change for the better began with last year’s TouchWiz iterations. In 2016, many of TouchWiz’s features remain the same as in 2015, but it’s clear that Samsung is working hard to polish the overall feel and things are likely to only get better from here on out.

Despite my personal preference for stock Android, I can see how some users might prefer TouchWiz

Despite my personal preference for stock Android, I can see why someone would prefer TouchWiz if they are looking for something with a bit more “beyond the surface”, without having to bake in these features themselves through things like 3rd party apps, ROMs, root apps, and xposed modules. Is it perfect? No. Is it a nightmare to use like some claim it is? Not at all. There’s some (very) minor lag and hiccups here and there, but nothing that ‘breaks’ the experience. And even stock Android has had its fair share of issues over the years — particularly Lollipop’s early days, so expecting absolute perfection may arguably be asking for too much.

The beauty of Android is that there are tons of options, and likely to be a version that is right for you. But if you’ve been judging TouchWiz largely based on notions that date back from past years of use, I encourage you to look on TouchWiz with refreshed respective. Perhaps you too will admit that, even if you aren’t sure if it is ‘right for you’, TouchWiz is not necessarily a monster hiding in the closet waiting to snatch us up, bog us down, and lag up our lives.

I look forward to seeing how TouchWiz performs over time (as that may prove to be the real test), but for now, I have few complaints about software performance or even functionality. What are your thoughts on TouchWiz? Does ‘modern’ TouchWiz deserve its reputation? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below.

  • RunningGreat

    I’ll be honest, touchwiz might have been bad back when it started but it’s been improving at an alarming pace. My Note 4 rocks Twiz and is smooth and gives me a lot of features that most people don’t even know exist on their other phones. And yes it’s f as f. I will always pick touchwiz over stock anything.

    • John-Phillip Saayman

      Happy note 4 user here as well. I just wish we got updates a lot quicker. Shouldn’t we have had Marshmallow by now. Yes.

  • JSo

    I’ve never owned a TouchWiz device. I know TouchWiz has gotten better over the years. But I will still always pick stock over it. Even if I got a new Samsung device, I would probably put some kind of stock based ROM on it.

  • Sammy Phillips

    TouchWiz can be ok, but I just can’t be held captive to a carrier AND Samsung’s update schedules. If it was only Samsung, maybe, but I’ll never buy a carrier-branded phone again.

    • Andrew Grush

      Yah, that is true of most Android phones. Carrier-branded models …. I avoid them always. :)

    • John-Phillip Saayman

      I really like samsung but real soon you will be left behind with software updates. From my 4th consecutive Samsung phone experience.

  • ses81

    As a fellow TouchWiz hater, I though that was a very well written article! My in-laws had S4’s and now S5’s and they are the worst OS experience I could imagine on a smart phone. I’ve played around a little with the S6 and S7 and they seem to be getting a lot better. After seeing Motorola’s horrible handling of updates lately, I’ll never own anything but a Nexus from this point forward (playing with the Android N beta right now and it’s great!) but from time to time I do wonder what it would be like to try a Samsung or an Apple for a week or so and just see how easy/hard it would be to adapt.

    • Andrew Grush

      Thanks for the kind words! To be fair, I never ‘hated’ TouchWiz. I just wasn’t a ‘fan’ and would sometimes (playfully) tease some of my Galaxy-using friends. Considering what I do for a living, I have an appreciation for all skins as well as stock Android, and realize that just because like or don’t like something doesn’t mean others will feel the same. But yes,it has gotten a lot better over the years. :)

  • Souri.A

    My first Samsung device is the GS6. I owned a Galaxy Nexus and Moto X before it. I can say I am satisfied with the overall experience with the GS6. The options and tweaks almost relieved me from the urge to root to get a feature. I hated lollipop so much when it is shipped with no Dark mode in stock Android. With GS6 Touchwiz….simple, get a dark theme…done!. Need to shuffle the toggles order?…the edit button id there.

  • Matt

    I updated my S6 Edge to 6.0.1 a couple of days ago and wow. I didn’t think it was lagging before but it certainly isn’t now. TouchWiz + Themes + Nova Launcher let me have the device I want. The one thing that bugs me sometimes is that Samsung will not allow you to disable some apps, namely S Planner & Email in my case. I want to use Google Calendar. I tried to disable S Planner after updating but they still won’t let you do it. So I disabled the permissions and notifications for it thinking that would be just as good. But no, I then got a constant notification badgering me to allow S Planner access to the Calendar permission. So I’ve done that, hidden the app (with Nova Launcher) and use Google Calendar instead. You cannot disable Internet, Clock, Gallery, Email, Video and Voice Recorder either. So you end up with more than one app to do the same thing, Email & Gmail, Internet & Chrome, etc.

    • Abd

      Use Package Disabler Pro in play store.

      No Root Required.

  • ses81

    There’s a part of me that wishes the Android phone landscape worked the same as Android Wear. Manufacturers could make an Android phone any way they see fit; Samsung with it’s wraparound screen, HTC with it’s iPhone copycat looks, Moto with their dimple, etc. but they all just run a stock Android software experience. I know some people love the ability to tweak a skin to their liking but things would go so much smoother with updates if Google could handle the updates on their own and let the manufacturer just dial in their hardware.

    • John-Phillip Saayman

      O was thinking the same thing just now when I read about the quick Google updates.

    • Trevor Gold

      Don’t forget about the carriers that also slow update process.

      • ses81

        The carriers do muck it up too, but when you considered that you can drop a sim card from any carrier into most new phones (Nexus, Moto X Pure, iPhone) and it will take right off, I would think there’s not much that carriers really need to be involved with on the update end of things. I’m guessing they’re just configuring their bloatware to work on the latest update. Which they could do through an independent update from the OS update. Or we could all just buy our phones from the manufacturer or a third party like Amazon and probably save a bunch of money. I don’t buy my TV from DirecTV, why do I have to buy my phone from Verizon?

  • Nallaikumaran

    The exaggeration in this post (TouchWiz). Because this site and its writers are Google biased (Google 6P reseller site). Has TouchWiz improved on the latest release? Yes. I know it’s not a big issue. TouchWiz finally looks good.

    • Marty

      “TouchWiz finally looks good”.

      No it doesn’t. It’s still the same old Chinese knockoff crap it’s always been. The icons look ugly and the menu system is cheesy and silly….especially the colors. And before anyone says: “Themes”. Themes don’t help with 3rd party launchers like Google Now. You are still offended by the damn ugly icons.

      • neural_physics

        You can change the icons on a 3rd party launcher really easily..

        • Marty

          Try it on Google Now. Then get back to me.

          • neural_physics

            There are ways to do that… Plenty of apps that change icons lol

          • Marty

            Name one that doesn’t require root and changes the icons throughout the system?

          • Luka Bulatović

            I use Icon Styler for homescreen. It’s not changing icons in app drawer though.

          • Marty

            That’s the rub. It doesn’t change icons throughout the system, just on the surface of the launcher.

            Nova has it’s own theme system that does change icons throughout the system…homescreens and app drawer. I use it on my S6, but still prefer GN.

          • neural_physics

            Without further research I am not sure, but I know there are apps that let you change icons without root.

          • Necdet Ali Özdür

            Download the material theme, use Google Now Launcher. Here.

          • Marty

            TW icons.

          • Necdet Ali Özdür

            Clear Google app data, theme icons will show up. Here you go, little troll.

          • Marty

            The TW theme system doesn’t work with Google Now launcher. The TW theme system doesn’t work in any 3rd party launcher. Nova has it’s own theme system that has nothing to do with the TW theme system.

            Your home screen is ugly, by the way. :)

          • Necdet Ali Özdür

            It does work with Google now launcher as I show on my previous comment.

          • AdazeeI

            How do you clear google app data?

          • Necdet Ali Özdür

            When using Google now launcher, press and hold Google icon, drag it to the top where it says “App info”, on the next screen, tap manage space, and then clear all data. Your current customizations will be gone, however the the stock icons will be replaced with the icons of your current theme.

          • mobilemann

            totally unintuitive, but i was under the same impression as marty. Thanks for the knowledge.

          • AdazeeI

            Thanks! You’re a life saver lol

      • Mohamed Goha

        Well then just use the material design theme with the stock launcher…I did it that way and it’s really similar to stock android in terms of aesthetics now.

        • Marty

          Don’t use TW. I use Google Now. Can’t stand the layout and functionality of TW. The TW theme system doesn’t work in any other launcher.

          • Andreas Larsson

            Of course it doesn’t work on other launchers, no theme engine works on other launchers. Each launcher needs its own theme engine

          • Marty

            Read the dude’s comments. He was saying the theme engine in TW would work for Google Now.

          • Andreas Larsson

            What dude?

      • Nallaikumaran

        Hello, Samsung hater idiots still complain no matter what they do.

        • Marty

          If any company deserves to be hated, it’s Samsung. Lying and cheating and doing stupid stuff.

          • Trevor Gold

            That made no sense

          • Marty

            The GS6 was supposed to delete bloatware. Lie
            The 7420 Exynos was supposed to solve the lag and stutter of the past Exynos. Lie
            Samsung was caught cheating benchmarks. Cheating
            The Gear S2 did away with the internal speaker and costs more. Stupid stuff.

          • Phillip

            Guys this dude is a fact and a troller don’t give him the time of the day he just shows up here for click bait
            Don’t answer his dumb ass comments

      • saksham

        i guess u dont like iOS then as well coz the ‘squircles’ are found in ios too

        • Marty

          The icons in iOS are pretty. Very well created. The icons in TW are ugly. They are created like an afterthought.

          • saksham

            u do know u can change the icons with the theme store to virtually ANYTHING ? (including stock icons)

          • Marty

            But the theme system in TW doesn’t work in any other launcher. I use GN launcher. The TW themes system doesn’t affect it.

          • saksham

            of course it wouldnt touchwiz is a separate launcher

          • Marty

            Okay…let me say it this way…the theme system on, in and of the Galaxy S6 does not work in Google Now launcher or any other 3rd party launchers.

            The theme system in and of the Galaxy S6 only works with TouchWiz.

            Airtight.

          • saksham

            if u have problems why did u even buy it u should have done a research about the phone ur buying btw i have an s6 edge

    • jasonlowr

      I have to admit, touchwiz does look good compared to the dull and boring stock android. The colours of the apps and everything show off the screen really well, even my colleagues were amazed by the screen of the s6 edge because of how colourful touchwiz is. I really like my s6 edge.

    • Fornavn Etternavn

      Touchwizs look is not the problem. Its RAM management and lag after some months is the problem

      • Nallaikumaran

        Hey, check out New S7 – youtubedotcom/watch?v=J3yBdCxeWN4

        • Fornavn Etternavn

          The RAM management is still bad and that video wont show anything about the lag that will come after some months

          • Trevor Gold

            And you own an S7?

          • Phillip

            No he does not if he did he still wouldn’t believe it. I’m sure he’s seen all the YouTube videos and he knows the facts there’s a lot of butt hurt going on right now

          • Phillip

            Dude did you watch the video that is the question yes you did now your having butt hurt . Hey you don’t have to like Samsung and that fine they’ll sell a lot of phones with are without you . But at least man up and admit what you saw and keep it real . After you watch that one check out a bunch of the gs7 vs what ever phone and get back with us but remember keep it real . FYI my note 5 is still a beast since last last October. But you wouldn’t know that cause your last Samsung was maybe a gs3

        • mobilemann

          “just buy this new model, it actually does what the hardware we list on the box implies it can do!” the irony is you probably hate apple. The “tech enthusiasts” on this forum, are really just people promoting brands they have in their pockets. You guys are a bunch of nubs who’ve never done anything cooler with a phone than snapchat.

          • mobilemann

            or i just made that all up in my head.

            /hate / hate/ hate/

      • Andreas Larsson

        My note 3 never lagged, how long ago did that issue exist? ^^

      • Phillip

        Dude stop thinking of the old gs3 and gs4 of old . My note 5 I’ve had since day one and it’s been a beast . By the way every phone has some lag after time . I have more then a few friends that complained about there I phones getting buggy after a few months. And if you go on the nexus forums there’s plenty of folks complaining about there phones slowing down with time. You nexus guys Crack me up with your pure android is the Holy Grail BS … and yet I’ve yet to see a new nexus 6p in the wild but I do see a lot of Samsung Galaxy. Which proves that most of the buying public see things a lot different then you nexus fan boys just saying

    • DDD

      What are you talking about? They’re praising TouchWiz and you think they’re complaining?

    • Phillip

      This guy gets it the funny thing is most of the ones that are doing all the touch wiz hate are the nexus guys. That come out of the woodwork every year a new Samsung Galaxy is released and gets all the press and socks all the air out of the room ,and they hate that. Trust me even they know how good this phone is now and there filling a lot of butt hurt

  • Tandem

    Disable Flipboard and enjoy lag-free TouchWiz

    • Marty

      Ugly TouchWiz.

      • Andreas Larsson

        Then change skins smartass

        • Marty

          Better, I changed phones. :)

          • Andreas Larsson

            That doesn’t improve the looks of TW, so no that is not “better”

          • Marty

            But it is better for me. My other phone doesn’t assault me with a Chinese knock off UI.

          • Andreas Larsson

            Are you seriously saying that it’s easier to set up a brand new phone than to just change skins? ^^

          • Marty

            Can’t change the UI (skin) of the GS6. You can change the launcher, but that doesn’t change the UI. That only changes what’s right in front of you. The UI is still there.

            So, I suppose, in that regard, yes, it is easier to change phones than change a skin. :)

          • Andreas Larsson

            Well this article is not about gs5 it’s about tw in the new s7 and you can change the UI skin

          • Marty

            It was a typo. I meant GS6. I typed my response on the Disqus page. The Disqus page doesn’t allow you to immediately access your comment on Android Authority. I had to load the AA page and scroll to find my comment…it took a little while. That’s why my edit was delayed.

            No, you cannot change the UI of the GS7. I have a GS6, which is exactly the same. You cannot change the UI. The menu system??? No, not changeable. The notification shade??? No, not changeable.

            You can change the look of the UI, but you cannot change the UI itself.

          • Andreas Larsson

            My reply still stands, why would it be better to have to change phones than to simply change the UI with skins?

          • Marty

            Because I would need to go through the trouble of rooting my GS6 and flashing a custom ROM to change the UI. It’s easier to just change phones.

          • Andreas Larsson

            Well yeah, if you dont know how to handle the theme engine than I’m afraid you do have to root, but if you can’t even handle a theme engine how are you gonna handle rooting and flashing I wonder?

          • Marty

            It isn’t the themes I want to change. It’s the UI. I like a vanilla Android UI. Can’t have that with Samsung phones unless you root them…a particularly difficult task because of Knox, and you can’t use Tap and Pay afterwards.

          • Andreas Larsson

            What is it you don’t understand? Tell me specifically what you want changed that you can’t change on Samsung, and stop saying the UI because that you can change

          • Marty

            Stop saying you can change the UI. You cannot change the UI. You can only theme it.

          • Andreas Larsson

            Aaand changing it would be what then if not altering it’s looks?

          • Marty

            Changing it would be replacing it with another UI. Example:

            I prefer the vanilla UI of Nexii. I cannot have the vanilla UI of Nexii on Samsung devices unless I root and flash an alternative ROM.

          • Guest

            If you love the stock look to death, why didnt you just get one of the “Nexii”?

          • Marty

            I have several Nexii. I also have several other devices. Samsung devices are the only higher end brand that you can’t fully remove the ugly from the UI.

          • Marty

            You know, this all really a moot point anyway. Even if I were to want a GS7, I refuse to buy tied to a carrier. And that’s the only way to buy one with the SD820. The International version uses the Exynos chip. I hate Exynos.

            Looking forward to an HTC 10.

          • Marty

            Here is what my GS6 looks like. It’s the cleanest and best looking I could make it and still is intolerable. And there are still 5 pages in the menu system.

          • Andreas Larsson

            Not in the sg7, there it looks like stock ^^

          • Marty

            The GS7 uses the exact same UI as the GS6. And that in those pics is not stock TW . It’s themed TW.

          • Andreas Larsson

            Haha not it don’t, the gs 7 only have 1 page in the menu. Like vanilla android, stock tw is what’s on the gs7 when you first boot it up

          • Marty

            I did play with a GS7 at the store. I did scroll through 5 menu pages.

          • Andreas Larsson

            Then you picked up the wrong phone, the gs7 only have one, I already showed you

          • Marty

            Nope. It was the GS7. Not the Edge. The regular one. And I played with it at several stores.

          • Andreas Larsson

            What can I say, you must have picked the wrong device and played with in several stores then ^^

          • Marty

            I’ll take a picture of it the next time I go. We’ll see who’s wrong.

          • Marty

            This is stock TW:

          • Andreas Larsson

            Not on the gs7

          • Marty

            We’ll see. Gonna take a picture of it next time I play with one.

          • Andreas Larsson

            I can give that right now, since I’m holding one ^^

          • Marty

            You may be holding a GS7, but I know what I saw at the store.

          • Andreas Larsson

            Plz just stop, this is really embarrassing to read. No you clearly have no idea what you saw at the store, rather that or you are lying about even holding one. Have you read the article above yethe BTW? Because much you are spewing here could have been prevented by you reading before trolling

          • Marty

            Out getting pictures to prove your ass wrong.

          • Marty

            Read it and weep. This is a GS7 showing the 5 page tabs of the menu system, the proof of what device it is and the notification shade.

          • Andreas Larsson

            Old firmware ^^ haha update it noob and all your issues go away ;)

          • Marty

            Not mine. Don’t give a shit. Proves me right. Nuff said.

          • Andreas Larsson

            How did that prove you are right and about what? You are still wrong on all things, the s7 still doesn’t have the 5 page menu and I proved that ^^

          • Marty

            Ehh…I’m done with you. You’re just a troll. Anyone not trolling can see the proof.

          • Andreas Larsson

            You mean the pictures I shared way back and showed you the actual current UI yeah I think everybody sees the truth since waaay back, or you know maybe they didn’t need to since they read the actually article above ^^

          • Marty

            Reload the page so you can see my edits.

          • Andreas Larsson

            Oh I see you never owned a gs 6? Haha yes the theme engine changes the menu system and the notification shade as well

          • Marty

            It changes the looks…colors and icon styles. It does not change the UI.

          • Marty

            The UI remains ugly as sin and complex no matter what theme it has employed.

          • Andreas Larsson

            Because you tried all of the skins? ^^ cman man, have you even tried it since the theme engine came? ^^ because it seems like you just hating blindly

          • Marty

            Okay…tell me this: When you “change the UI”, as you say you can, how many pages do you have to scroll to get to the “About” menu in the menu system??

          • Andreas Larsson

            One

          • Marty

            Utter lie. Completely untrue and false. You do not even own a GS6 or GS7.

          • Andreas Larsson

            It’s no lie, but this proves what I expected, you never tried it yourself ^^

          • Marty

            That isn’t your and you have no clue what you are saying.

          • Andreas Larsson

            Really? ^^

          • Marty

            Yes. Really.

          • Andreas Larsson

            Haha did you even see last picture I sent?

          • Marty

            Don’t need to see some photoshopped pic.

          • Andreas Larsson

            Haha troll ^^

          • Marty

            Well…I can screw with you too, you know. You chose to screw with me.

            You have no clue what a UI is. You are equating an app launcher with the system UI.

            That tells me you are a troll or ignorant.

          • Andreas Larsson

            I just posted pictures of the system menu with changed UI and still you think it’s just the app launcher? ^^

          • Marty

            No, you think it’s the app launcher. You cannot change the system UI. I saw zero changed to the system UI of the pictures you posted other than the color change.

          • Andreas Larsson

            Omg this guy! ^^ so you didn’t see any changes except the changes? ^^ what else is the same except the order of the list? ;)

          • Marty

            The only changes were the color of the UI.

          • Marty

            What I saw changed in those pictures was the color of the system UI. The notification shade and the menu system is still crappy ass TouchWiz ugly.

          • Andreas Larsson

            Then tell what is the same and what is ugly? ^^

          • Marty

            The same notification shade. The same convoluted menu system. The same ugly UI.

          • Andreas Larsson

            What is the same about the shade? I can totally change it.
            What’s convoluted about the menu system? It’s much simpler than most other oems.
            “The same ugly UI” no its not, because I changed the UI, do you even know what user interface is?

          • Andreas Larsson

            What didn’t change?

          • Andreas Larsson

            Photoshopped under a minute :D hahaha hilarious ^^

          • Trevor Gold

            He’s a fool. No sense on wasting your time on a troll. Moving on…

          • Andreas Larsson

            Pwnd! ^^

          • Marty

            Typical

          • Andreas Larsson

            So are you gonna confess of not owning a gs6 now? Because none of that you said is true

          • Marty

            Everything I said is true. You cannot change the UI. You can only theme it. Changing a UI has to be done at root level. Theme’ing a UI uses the built-in theme engine…that itself makes color changes at root level.

          • Phillip

            And that’s what every one on here is trying to tell you . Just get a different phone and be happy .
            You show up on every Samsung forum with the same bull shit
            You don’t like TouchWiz we get now stfu

          • Marty

            But to stfu would be nearly as much fun. 😎

    • shreyans

      Still lags, you know why because its by korea not google

  • Howard Tseng

    I honestly like touchwiz. It crashes from time to time(I got S4 on 5.0.1 Lollipop), but overall I like it. I’m used to it and it’s quite nice. The newer Touchwiz is not bad, but it doesn’t have the stuff that I’m used to in the S4 Touchwiz. The Task manager isn’t what it used to be, with the menus and the ability to clear your RAM.Touchwiz isn’t perfect, but I never really liked stock for its over simplicity. I would choose Touchwiz over Stock any day.

    • Phillip

      I’m with you on that me being a phone geek . I have 10 different phones . Two pure android phones and n6 and a x5 both I got cheap there good phones very smooth …but there missing to much for my taste to use as a daily driver I tried but after a week they both went back in the draw and have been the for 6 months now . My two go to phones are my note 5 and my new since Fri is my gs7 edge in gold of courses love this phone and this version of tw Samsung finally got it with these two

  • Marty

    But it’s damn sure ugly.

    • neural_physics

      Not really. And you can theme it to completely change the look.

      • Marty

        Themes only apply to TW. They won’t apply to other launchers. That means the same ugly icons

        • ♜Donzzy™

          What do you mean by same ugly icons? I use Nova Launcher with icon packed installed. No visible TW icons so far.

          • Don Shields

            I use Nova and various icon packs as well
            …Marty is clueless…just a hater being a hater.

          • Marty

            You apparently didn’t understand what I said. I said basically…Nova is too convoluted with options. It isn’t simple and squeaky clean like Google Now is. I also said Nova is the best 3rd party launcher available on Android, but that I still prefer Google Now, which isn’t as good as Nova.

          • Marty

            If you use Google Now, same ugly TW icons.

          • KenanSadhu

            Any reason to choose GN Launcher over Nova Launcher?

          • shreyans

            Any reasons to buy samsung over nexus or motorola even xiaomi is better in terms of speed and usability, well i am a samsung hater.

          • Marty

            Unless you prefer the GN page and squeaky clean system, no, Nova is probably the best launcher available…better than GN. But I don’t need all the customization and options Nova has except on Samsung devices, so Nova isn’t as good for me as it might be for others.

    • Trevor Gold

      Opinion not fact

      • Marty

        Sensitive, are ya? Refute all other opinions in the world, or just those about Samsung?

  • mediatico

    Same experience in my case, never returned to touch wiz since S2, and I don’t regret it. By the way, I may star a war here, but talking of approaches on android, I gave an opportunity to Huawei’s EMUI, and is not bad at all.
    Nevertheless, I will also stick to stock android or the closest it could be (Motorola)

  • neural_physics

    I’m actually looking forward to using the new and improved touchwiz. I want my S7 Edge NOW!

    • Marty

      Have you used an S6? If so, same crap.

      • neural_physics

        I haven’t used a Samsung phone for more than a minute or two at a time, ever. But I like what I see in the s7. I can’t wait to get my s7 Edge

      • crap?

        • Marty

          Junk, shit, poop, trash, waste etc.

      • Slaughter

        The only complaint with my S6e is the battery life. The phone runs still fast and smooth since last year, even better on 6.0.1. So crap? Nop.

        • ichuck7

          Well, that and the aggressive task killing. But I own the s6 edge and I really love it.

          • Slaughter

            The task killing was annoying it’s true, on 6.0.1 It doesn’t bother me that much, I think they have adjusted some stuff.
            Anyway, now on S7 edge and so far so good!

          • ichuck7

            I’m so jealous. I would love to trade my s6 edge for the s7 edge, but I can’t really justify the extra expense. I’m kind of spoiled with technology as it is. Really, the only reason I would get the s7 edge is for the improved battery life.

          • Slaughter

            Battery life was kind of my only reason, so far I really love my S6edge, so having the same phone with a huge batterie justify the upgrade (for me).

          • ichuck7

            That totally makes sense. I actually own two phones, the Nexus 6 and the S6 edge (both of them I bought used/heavily discounted) . So if I know I’m going to be out for a while not with a charger, I’ll bring them both. I know that makes me a super nerd, lol. With them both having nano sim, I can put one sim in the other phone if needed.

          • Slaughter

            A Nexus 6 for emergencies? You tech junkie lmfao.
            Actually I haven’t been able to kill it (S7e) in a day (~7h SOT average with mix 4g/wifi).

          • ichuck7

            Lol, yeah yeah. It’s mainly because I don’t own a phone and a tablet, rather my Nexus 6 is my tablet. It was at such a good deal it cost me almost nothing. Plus, I have the best of both worlds. I have a phone that I can easily use one handed and a phone that is as big as the titanic. I have the awesome features of touchwiz and fast updates straight from Google (Android N ftw!) Lol, sorry I had to justify myself a bit. Like I said, I’m spoiled.

          • ichuck7

            Btw, 7 hours of SOT? For real? No way, that’s awesome. I’m getting 3 on my edge.

          • Slaughter

            6h with 31% remaining, Exynos variant here!

  • Nallaikumaran

    They try to hide the truth. The 32GB Galaxy S7 and Galaxy S7 edge device components cost more than $300, But 32GB Nexus 6P device components cost only $180. 6P is a Chinese cheap garbage.

    Nexus 6P Main disadvantages
    No expandable storage (microSD card slot)
    No water and dust resistant
    No Optical Image Stabilization (OIS) for the camera
    Lacks wireless charging
    No Thermal spreader (Water-cooling technology to avoid the phones overheating)
    Nexus 6P problem is the heating issues which the Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 chipset is responsible for.

    No Super AMOLED- The large 5.7-inch display is an AMOLED capacitive touchscreen but not a Super AMOLED which is found on the Samsung Galaxy. Comparison wishes the Super AMOLED consumes less power which can save the battery juice a lot and, more importantly, it has better viewing angles than a standard AMOLED, but sadly it’s ain’t any with Nexus 6P.

  • RiTCHiE

    LOL TouchWiz was never a monster but its like a pretty girl with AIDS.

  • Bob F

    I think it just “fashionable” to hate on Touchwiz. I’ll bet most of the people commenting on it have never even had experience with it.

    • Nallaikumaran

      You make an excellent point.

    • duplissi

      Touchwiz used to be terrible. It was a performance and resource hog, and personally I felt it was downright ugly. The current iteration of it is not bad at all, many of the extra features can be turned off and themes take care of the aesthetics for the most part.

      Before my S7, my last interaction with Touchwiz was with my Galaxy Tab S. I promptly installed CM on it because touchwiz was near unbearable at the time.

      • Jesus

        Tab S user here! I am happily using Touchwiz, wouldn’t change for CM (unless it’s like CM14, maybe…)

    • broo994

      Hell yeah brother…. except for the bad stupid piece of crap multi tasking/aggressive app killing in the background to be more specific!!

      • broo994

        oh right I must be using a low end device then… A fucking badass note 5 !

        • jagema

          The Note 5 is starting to see Marshmallow updates depending on your carrier. That’s a software issue which, judging by the latest Samsung hardware running Marshmallow, should most likely get corrected.

          • broo994

            already running MM m8!! isuee is still there!

          • jagema

            Ugh. Planned obsolence (RAM modules are the exact same for both units)

      • Trevor Gold

        I tested out the Galaxy S7 Edge at BestBuy today and had 12+ apps open and none of them had to reload when using the multitasking button. None of them were games though. I think Samsung addressed the issue on the Galaxy S7.

        • godutch

          it was never an issue or bug but a conscious decision

          • Trevor Gold

            Agreed. Funny though how this became such a huge issue. I may be in the minority, but I have never had the need to keep 15+ apps open at one time and need to go right back to where the app was last at. Now it’s because the headphone jack is supposedly “misaligned” on the S7/S7 Edge. Just hilarious.

        • Phillip

          The ram issue if there ever was one is most definitely not an issue with the GS 7. Anybody that say it’s not have not watched YouTube videos that prove the point. For me personally I never thought it to be that big a deal

      • monsterdonutkid

        The Marshmallow update fixed this issue. Look up Jeff Springer’s TouchWiz Lollipop vs Marshmallow RAM comparison video. The difference is too apparent to miss.

        • Jay

          Link?

          • monsterdonutkid

            I think it’s this: /watch?v=q6WKFf_ZdsA. The last link I posted here got removed so I can’t comment the full link. Also, I’m not sure if I gave you the correct link because I’m at work and can’t open YouTube. Let me know if it’s the right one.

          • Jay

            Worked. Thanks.

        • broo994

          I am already running MM 3 weeks ago! issue still exists

          • monsterdonutkid

            Which phone are you using? Did you already check if there are any apps hogging your resources?

          • broo994

            a note 5 ! and nothing weird is going on. Its not only the note 5.. s6/edge and even the s7 have this isuee which is aggressive app killing in the background !

          • monsterdonutkid

            Sooo… you have an S7 too?

          • Phillip

            Noooo he doesn’t. He’s a troller

          • monsterdonutkid

            Of course he does. He also has a collection of World War 1 weapons and a state-of-the-art panic room in case of a sudden zombie apocalypse. He’s also a reincarnated Egyptian deity. And the son of Bill Gates.

          • Phillip

            Haha true . It amazes me how folks can be so stuck in the past , I challenge them to go to there local carrier of choice and play with the gs7 load up a bunch of apps then open them . But they won’t cause then they’d have butt hurt . I think by now they’ve seen the video and know the facts

          • Phillip

            Haha dude stop your trolling I have both note 5 and gs7 and the sobcall ram issue is a non issue . And I’m all most sure you don’t own ether phone. Your just a troller that so up on Samsung forum just to say a lot of dumb shit. Just for click bait

          • broo994

            Just for the record.. I am a sammy fanboy PLUS i do own the Note 5 + I am one of a few who has installed the MM update manually as soon as it went online alright?? However Ram issue is still there BUT simply you may not be a “Poweruser” to even realise or notice, therfore an iPhone would be great for your case honey.
            Take care k?

          • Phillip

            You guys Crack me up with that I’m a power uses wtf does that even mean . I use my phone . Like most are maybe a Lil harder as I use it as my main business phone . Ether your on here just trolling are you have a broken bug phone . But even the guys on YouTube that never have like TouchWiz have come around . And the first thing they try to do is a ram management test on the new gs7 . And they can’t seem to break it . How about you post a link where the gs7 felled a ram test

        • Phillip

          6.0 didn’t fix anything Samsung changed the way there phones Handel ram . From inside the chip and 4 gigs of ram helps . TouchWiz is a heavy skin that I love . Now is the past it had its issues but since the note 4 it’s gotten better and better . Check out some YouTube of the gs7 vs what ever and see for yourself

          • monsterdonutkid

            Sure, they changed the RAM management because it was less than likable before. I believe the technical term is “fixing” it. Of course I could be wrong.

          • Phillip

            Know you correct they fixed it that’s what they’ve done e since the gs6 to the note 5 and now the gs7 is even better yet

    • RunningGreat

      At this point, there’s no reason to hate touchwiz. Haters are doing it because they can’t find any flaw in the beautiful S7. Touchwiz is probably the best rom for Android.

      • jagema

        Hilarious to see haters (more so than just ‘Apple fanboys’ these days) complain about the S7’s “misaligned” microphone/ports. Really, people will go always go great lengths to find something to whine about.

        • Phillip

          That just proves how good the gs7 is . Ive had mine since Friday and it’s been nothing short of a beast . This is the new TouchWiz

      • monsterdonutkid

        Marques Brownlee a.k.a MKBHD made a video about the Galaxy S7’s biggest flaws, and even he had to admit that pointing out those flaws are by no means easy because Samsung did such a great job with the S7.

        • RunningGreat

          I’m sorry, that guy is an ihomo. Lost all my respect as an unbiased tech journalist. Idc what he says.

          • IraqiSwaq21

            Isn’t he biased towards android actually?

          • mikl0s

            I’m pretty sure most people care what he says in contrast to what you write.

    • Trevor Gold

      My point exactly. I personally know some people that make it their life’s mission to speak negatively about TouchWiz whenever they have an opportunity to do so, all while not having used a Galaxy device since the Galaxy SIII.

    • Trevor Gold

      I have a co-worker that owns a Nexus 6P. He would make random negative comments about my Galaxy Note 5 all the time, mainly addressing TouchWiz. I finally offered him to use my device for an hour and then come back and tell me what he thought. When he came back, he was shocked and a bit embarrassed. He said if he had a chance to use a Galaxy Note 5 prior to purchasing his Nexus 6P, he would have purchased the Galaxy Note 5 instead. He said TouchWiz was much much better than what he had “read” online. He even said he liked it. He later said he tried looking for Samsung “like” apps on Google Play to emulate the Galaxy Note 5’s experience. Minus the S-Pen of course.

    • ichuck7

      I think you nailed it. This is applicable to most people who hate on anything, often they hate what they really don’t understand, whether it be Mac, evolution, or anything else.

    • o totoro

      I have had an experience with the S5 (I now have a Nexus 5), and overall I just didn’t feel that the the software felt like a finished and polished product like iOS or Stock, even though it had more features. I had Google, Samsung (S Voice go away) and crappy AT&T apps of the same functionality, overlapping UI elements in the notificational panel (you can tell because the shaded ripple effect gets cut off), an awkward looking settings activity, ugly off-balance lock screen, and a clash between Samsung pseudo-realistic blurs and [lock screen] ripples/confetti and Material Design and more but I can’t remember right now.

      Not that big of a deal but for me, I’m still annoyed by these things.

    • RedWolf

      I don’t hate TouchWiz, but I’ll always go for customization. I feel more secure being in control of absolutely everything. that’s why nova has my heart

      • mobilemann

        because you can’t use nova if you use touchwiz?

        • RedWolf

          My bad. i’m talking about the home screen part of touchwizz

          • mobilemann

            no worries, you still do see the rest (settings, NC style etc)

    • MattBoan

      Current Touchwiz? No. I haven’t dealt with it as a daily driver since the horrible experiences with my S4 that only a ROM managed to make bearable. Though that’s how I am with my devices. My G3? Running an AOSP-based ROM. The next phone I buy will at the very least be rootable as well. I’ve no desire to be beholden to any carrier locked device. No hoping that they choose to update a device for years to come for me (I tend to keep my phones for a few years at a time).

      But do I hate Touchwiz, Sense, whatever LG calls their skin? No, I just like choice. I get that with ROMs, not “theming” a manufacturer’s skin and bloatware.

      • mobilemann

        lol what carrier are you on, oh righteous one

        • MattBoan

          Verizon, so it has nothing to do with righteousness. Has everything to do with the fact that those bastards lock down their carrier-branded devices worse than everyone else. And, unfortunately, they are a necessary evil where I live as no one else gets coverage a mile or so outside of the city. Er, town.

          • mobilemann

            so you know every verizon phone ships with a locked boot-loader anyway. your entire point, and righteousness is wasted (i’m on them too. they are the best with the lowest frequency (IE best penetration) LTE service in the US.)

          • MattBoan

            To what righteousness are you referring? I did not disagree with the OP, other than to say that I had in fact used Touchwiz at some point in time. I also readily admitted that I had nothing against skins, I just prefer having the choice as to what is on my phone. So please, tell me what your little issue is.

          • mobilemann

            i’m wondering how you rock AOSP on so many phones with locked bootloaders (you don’t). (you probably just wait for an exploit, but if you have no desire to be beholden to a carrier locked device, you’re on the wrong carrier.)

    • denNorske

      Running Marshmallow on my S6 right now – and i get the same experience. It’s a bit more polished, I may end up liking it a bit again. I got the nexus 5x too, it’s a though choice which phone to use.. xd

    • systemupdate

      The major issue is that new features of Android comes a bit late since it takes Samsung quite a while to update even when you buy unlocked. Yet again it has many features that stock Android does not have and is lagging behind in.

    • godutch

      I am especially baffled by the slow update of touchwiz argument: most new features in a stock update have been touchwiz features for years

      • JacksonTrunck

        Updates aren’t just about features. Updates are about fixing errors and providing security patches. Note 4 on ATT still suffers from bad RAM management (I can open 4-5 apps at most) two years later, and increased system lag with 2 months of continued use. I basically factory restore my phones every 2-3 months. My note 4 has more features than a Nexus will EVER have. But what’s the point of that when I press gallery from within the camera app and my phone freezes for 9 seconds? Most of us who complain, complain due to experience using touchwiz, the slow update process through carriers, etc. For most buyers of this current S7 Edge, they will see the S8 Edge released before they have access to Android 7.0.

        • Phillip

          The lag your reference to was more about ram optimization which the earlier Samsung phones Lacked . I know cause I’ve owned every one . Not so much related to the latest version of Android since other brands of phone like HTC m8 and m7 and other where in fact smoother and they where on the same version of Android at the time . After the new gs6 release Samsung finally got it . Note 5 better and now the gs7 is can say has it all together. Do yourself a favor and watch the gs7 vs the nexus sp speed test spoiler alert the 7 multitasking was better and faster

          • JacksonTrunck

            I’m currently using an S7 Edge – International Version and the RAM issues are in fact much better than the Note 4, but the phone is nowhere near as smooth as the Nexus 6P which I also own. I own and play no games on my phones – I’m a heavy music listener, PDF reader, news, videos, photo editing, etc. I did my own testing with my most used 10-15 Apps: Nexus 6P will keep all apps open in memory, and I can instantly switch since they’re kept open. The S7 Edge will RELOAD apps after the 8th or 10th app. Not that I care. That’s more than enough. But that’s a 1GB difference in faster RAM between both phones, plus a better processor on the S7 edge and MUCH faster storage.

            The multitasking button is more responsive – it responds to a press immediately! – on Nexus 6P, and animations are instantaneous. On the S7 edge, the multitasking button has a slight delay even when all animations are turned off. And the OS UI is thoroughly choppy. The longer you use the phone, the choppier it gets. There is also an annoying delay in recognizing a touch or swipe. I find myself swiping through a webpage or through the home screens, and the swipe instead opens a link or an app. There is none of that nonsense on the Nexus 6P. These are just little things that people all over the web are mentioning, so Samsung has a LOT of work to do in optimizing the OS on the S7 Edge. But we all know they won’t optimize anything. It should have been optimized before release, and now they have to deal with dozens of different models running with different processors with different carrier “optimizations,” etc… I went for the international version precisely because updates come from Samsung directly, and because of their exynos branded core. But not even the exynos processor can save this choppiness.

          • Phillip

            Then your gs7 most be the only with said issues. Mine has been a beast . And I’ve also watch every speed test on YouTube and not a one gs7 had to reload a app . Now ether your doing good some serious trolling here are yours is the only gs7 with crazy ram issues. And trust me those guys tried to trip up the gd7 to no avail

        • broo994

          exactly. I barely got my MM update (manually) for the note 5 two days before announcing the s7!! dauq

      • Phillip

        Haha I know right android N is bragging about spit screen really hahaha Samsung has been doing most of the things that the nexus folks think are new . Sounds just like the iPhone folks . And that’s the beauty of the gs7 it has features of TouchWiz an the smoothness of pure android

  • Haggie

    Why even consider using a POS like TouchWiz when Nova will always be five steps ahead of it. Plus, Nova is cross-manufacturer and device. I have an identical desktop across four Android devices from three different manufacturers. Try that with TouchWiz.

    • Tim Richardson

      touchwiz is much more than the launcher. I like Touchwiz … but I still use Nova or Google Now launcher.
      Touchwiz has informed Android of a number of features: Galaxy users were using automatic switching between wifi and mobile networks long before iOS and Android offered these features, for example. And Samsung’s stock keyboard (licenced Swiftkey IP with some tweaks like the number row) has also been a strong offer long before stock Android had a good keyboard. Now the Touchwiz stock browser offers ad blocking. Of course that’s possible with other browsers, but not with stock browsers (yet). Until reasonably recently Touchwiz has always been a mixed bag of the good and the bad, and now the balance is much more favorable. That’s why opinion is changing. Because Samsung kept an open mind and listened.

  • Fornavn Etternavn

    I never hated touchwiz, but I always loved Stock android

  • If TouchWiz can make an impression on a geek like you, imagine how it would do to normal customers. Which is the main reason Samsung phones are selling well.

  • geospa300

    Another paid add article?

  • obk88

    Sense is still the best alternate

  • Michael Shorey

    I walked up to a T-Mobile kiosk yesterday to look at the s7’s. guy at the counter barely knew anything about android, only wanted to pitch apple. it went downhill from there and he was properly embarrassed when his coworker showed up.

  • What I like most about TouchWiz is it has quite a few features that are some permutation of 1) absent from stock 2) poorly implemented in stock 3) require a paid 3rd party app to get. The Contacts app, for example, is infinitely better than AOSP’s.

  • DarrenSaw

    I would say that my shocking experiences with both the S and S3 have poisoned me against Samsung in a big way. Good to see that they are making headway at improving touchwheeze though.

    Interesting to see how lagfree it is in 6 months, I know many people who have had S5s and 6es and found the device way slower months later.

    Will they actually get any better at updates? My friend with S5s are still on 5.0.1 and no security patches since October.

  • Alain Lafond

    Yeah! And how many years before you’ll receive Android N firmware update?
    No thank you! No more Samsung phones for me…

    • Slaughter

      What’s the point of waiting Android N update so bad, when most features are already on TW? I understand Nuxii users are updates hungry since it basically lack of features, but we aren’t all in the same boat here.

  • Wolf0491

    Woah woah now…

  • devilreaper

    I’d say Nokia’s implementation of the always on was better. Wave your hand over the screen and poof, the B&W notification. And the best part is they did it 4 years ago. Now Motorola ,Samsung and lg do it and they call it an innovation. I can’t even fathom how apple fanboys will react when apple introduces this feature by saying it was their innovation. “innovation” . About the article, it is the best article I’ve read in a long long time.

  • Brenden Keene

    The thing is that Apple and Samsung have opposite ideals when making their software. Apple is on the “it has to be like this” extreme and Samsung on the “you can have it your way” side. I’ve always liked Stock because it aimed somewhere in the middle; between Apple’s simplistic martial law and Samsung’s uncontrolled, unoptimized chaos. Both have been moving toward Stock in the middle for the last couple years, the way I’ve perceived it, which I am glad to see. iOS has a lot more features it borrowed from Android – Samsung and Stock both have learned from iOS too.

  • kris90

    Hi.. I used my beloved nexus 5 for two years and it was a very good experience except for the pathetic battery life.. By the time i used my nexus 5 to full extent i really got bored with stock android( as i m not into rooting and all that stuff, i m just a regular user who likes to read, play & watch stuff).. I never owed a galaxy phone before but i have samsung tablet which works fine and i no issues with.. But when i first saw galaxy s6 in a store i really felt in love with tge design and software i saw was completely on a whole new level.. I purchased my s6 that day i don’t have any regrets with it.. The hardware is grt, software is also grt in comparison to stock android like multi window, the default video player provided by samsung consumes less battery in comparison mx player which i used on stock android which ate my battery.. Similarly the default gallery, music app are grt i don’t need a 3rd party app for doing small things Sammy takes care of it.. Rest of things u have already mentioned…so thanks for the article i really enjoyed reading it

  • ichuck7

    I used to hate on touchwiz, until I tried the galaxy s6 edge. It is now hard to go back to any other “rom.” I love the Samsung theme engine with there being tons of themes that look really nice. And the multi screen window is super handy if you ever need it. Also, the edge shortcuts are great and remind me of Ubuntu phone. Touchwiz has come a long way. I’m glad to see that stock Android is catching up with android N and the multi window. Now stock Android just needs a true theme engine out of the gate and it would make my daily driver decision a lot harder.

  • A.K. S

    I’m quite the opposite. Personally, I can’t stand stock. It’s fussy and annoying and bland. I’ve preferred TW since the first time I used it. Same goes for the hardware buttons. I can’t stand the waste of space that is on screen buttons. No real reason… I just hate that they’re there, annoying me on that annoying black bar. My point is, TW serves a purpose, and for those that like it, it makes using the device a much better experience.

  • “CONFESSIONS FROM A STOCK ANDROID FAN: TOUCHWIZ ISN’T THE MONSTER I THOUGHT IT WAS”

    Well millions of people don’t have an issue with it. Its only the hand full of phone reviewers that do because its popular to hate TouchWiz. So many of TouchWiz’s features make it to stock Android all the time. It’s way ahead of stock. Oh and stock Android doesn’t sell either. Look at the top Android oems. They all have heavy skins.

  • Jason Kim

    I totally love my Galaxy S7 Edge 64 GB Gold plat that I got yesterday… one of the best phones.

    I personally think that touchwiz is still a ram eater but a lot better than previous versions

    Btw anyone here enjoying the new S7 ??

  • Nathan J

    “But if you’ve been judging TouchWiz largely based on notions that date back from past years of use, I encourage you to look on TouchWiz with refreshed respective.”

    The problem with that is, the average working-class smartphone owner has to commit to a phone for 2 years and get it subsidized. We can’t just, like you see QbKing77 and MKBHD, they’ve got like, every major flagship phone to choose from. We can’t do that. So my last Samsung was the S3, and I agree it’s unfair to judge the S7 on the S3. But I see they still have the back and multitask (overview) buttons on the wrong sides. So that tells me right there, the phone is off, or at least the screen is, and the buttons are backwards. It doesn’t inspire me to trust the rest of it. Now, I’m not a Nexus guy by any means. I live in the US, so when I got the HTC One M8, in June of 2014, Nexus was something that was for people in other countries… or New York City. Had I known the 6 would support all the networks, I might have waited for that big, beautiful beast.

    Now I got my heart set on a 6P. And maybe I should wait for the rumored HTC Nexus, but with HTC moving away from stereo speakers, the 6P is probably my best bet on the Android side. I’ve done my homework and I’m looking pretty hard at the iPhone 6s Plus, despite never having had an Apple device at all. Apple isn’t talking about NVMe, but you can bet when it comes to Android — and it will, if not this year, then next year for sure — Android OEMs will talk about it, and talk it all up until you’re tired of hearing about it.

    • 1213 1213

      The back button is where it’s supposed to be. And that’s the dumbest way to judge Touch wiz.

      • Nathan J

        But you’re writing in a left-to-right read language. Back is left in reading, writing, most 2D video games. Back on the right may make sense in Asian countries, but then again, a lot of those video games (say, Super Mario Bros.) run left to right. So by what screwed up logic do you think that going back is to the right? Bonus question: On what side of the screen is your web browser’s back button?

        • 1213 1213

          If you’re right handed it is better to have it on the right side than the left. The button the left is used far less after all.

          The person with screwed up logic is you, by comparing it to languages and Mario bros

          • Nathan J

            You’re an idiot and so is anyone who uses the right handed argument. No need to sugar coat it. You’re just an idiot. You are, objectively, the target audience of iPhone and Galaxy phones. You need your hand held through everything. You and your ilk are what’s wrong with Android. Android used to be for geeks, the more intelligent among us. Back then, your kind stuck with iPhone or flip phones. But now you want more freedom, and that’s cool, but you’re not willing to learn. And you’re making the rest of us look bad. Read more, post less, at least until you can be of a service to others… not a burden.

            I’m right handed and I can use my phone just as well in either hand, and I’m just as proficient at trace typing with my left as with my right. And I can reach the back button just fine in both hands. Your argument could not be any more irrelevant, but that’s okay, because it isn’t yours. You’re just parroting the party line.

            In case you missed the question before, what side of the screen is your browser’s back button on? Do not reply until you are able to answer this question.

          • 1213 1213

            Lol at your silly little rant that is in no way relevant. You didn’t refute the right handed argument either, and I came up with it myself anyway. Atm I use two phones, an lg and a Samsung, so I frequently use both right and left without getting confused, and while I’m pretty much indifferent it doesn’t change that the right side is slightly better.

            And you also didn’t say why it should be on the left side. As I pointed out, it isn’t Mario bros here lol, its not left to right or right to left, it is a button on the right. The same way a playstation controller uses a button on the right as a back button.

            You also didn’t say what’s wrong with it being on the right, unless you’re sticking with the Mario argument. And you also failed to justify why a ‘geek’ like yourself is judging Touch wiz based on something so silly without even doing any research or using the phone. Pretty sure your little rant is more applicable to yourself. You’re a disgrace to anyone who is interested in consumer technology.

            Chrome doesn’t have a back button. But back buttons like what you’re describing (with the forward button next to it) are different. Because they are left to right, for the last frigging time we’re not talking about right to left here, but a button on the right.

          • Nathan J

            Chrome doesn’t have a back button? Okay, you’re done. Yes, it absolutely does. I think mine has an extra Home button I enabled in Settings, but it’s back, forward, refresh, and then the omnibar.

            And I can see you’re angry. Which means you’re wrong. Because you’re no longer after the truth. You’re only after the one who gave it to you. And when you’re attacking random strangers on the Internet, nobody but you can tell you when enough’s enough. So, bye-bye.

          • 1213 1213

            So you didn’t answer the questions, gave a stupid rant, didn’t say why you judge touchwiz on something so frivolous. You’re either a child or retarded, because you clearly no nothing about technology and don’t even know how to formulate an educated opinion on something. While also lacking the common sense and reading comprehension to understand how it is different to Mario bros.
            So yeah, buh bye!

          • Nathan J

            And you keep talking… do you not know what “bye-bye” means? Go play in traffic.

          • 1213 1213

            And yet you’re still here after saying bye for some reason. And surprise surprise, not justifying your silly little opinions.
            Hilarious.

          • Nathan J

            You still haven’t answered the web browser question. “The onus of proof is on the person making the claim.” Stock Android and web browsers have the back button on the left. You say it should be on the right, it’s on you to defend that, after your “but I’m right handed” argument failed to hold water. If all you have is insults, you’ve lost. So step up or crawl away. But quit pestering me. I can’t give you the approval your father failed to give you.

            Also, don’t call someone retarded when you yourself don’t know the difference between “no” and “know.” And not for nothing, but as far as what I “no” about technology… in addition to the fact that I’m not a Samsung user (which is to say, I don’t need my hand held all the time), I build computers, which is a whole lot different from using one.

          • 1213 1213

            Lol. You’re still here.

            I answered that question several times, and asked several questions myself that you still haven’t answered. And if ‘building computers’ is different then its not relevant. You’re the sort of idiot who is judging touch wiz based on something firvolous , and also your understanding of that frivolous thing is misguided.

            But thanks, remembering you is always good for a laugh or two. So feel free to actually read through everything I said and actually answer them, or continue to make a fool of yourself. I don’t really mind either way.

            The right handed argument does hold water anyways you failed to refute that too. But again, read everything I said instead of making futile attempts to insult me Mr computer builder.

          • Nathan J

            You keep contacting me. Don’t you realize that the OP of a conversation gets emailed replies? So yeah, I’m still here because I get email. So what does that make you? Just a buzzing little insect. You’ve failed to prove your point, so you’re just being an Internet tough guy. And if there’s something more pathetic than an Internet bully, I don’t know what it is. You think you have teeth? You hide behind numbers. You don’t even have the guts to show your face, or maybe it’s parental permission. Do Mommy and Daddy know you’re harassing grown-ups online? You’re valiantly defending the phone they bought you. You don’t understand that grown-ups who work for a living might do their research and pick a different phone. You hate the choice… You wanted an iPhone but you got a Galaxy. That’s it. Isn’t it? You hate Android because your parents didn’t buy you the phone you wanted. Yeah, I got your number, pathetic little Internet bully. Ten bucks says you come back and check for my reply by day’s end. That’s a little over 12 hours. See you on the next go round.

          • 1213 1213

            Feel free to answer the questions and actually read my responses instead of your petty remarks. Its getting stale. No wait, still hilarious XD

          • Nathan J

            Yep, there you are again. I would have won that bet. I bet you kick puppies. You’re not worth any more effort. But keep hitting me up. I know you need this.

          • 1213 1213

            Why don’t you read what I wrote out for you and answer the questions? One more chance for you to get it right kid, its getting boring now.

          • Nathan J

            Kid? I’m old enough to be your father. Which is probably why you keep clinging to me like a lost puppy. Look bud, it’s like you’re the Americans in this old parable:

            Americans: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the north to avoid a collision.
            Canadians: Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the south to avoid a collision.
            Americans: This is the Captain of a US Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course.
            Canadians: No. I say again, you divert YOUR course.
            Americans: This is the aircraft carrier USS Lincoln, the second largest ship in the United States’ Atlantic fleet. We are accompanied by three destroyers, three cruisers and numerous support vessels. I demand that YOU change your course 15 degrees north, that’s one five degrees north, or countermeasures will be undertaken to ensure the safety of this ship.
            Canadians: This is a lighthouse. Your call.

            Like I said, the burden of proof is yours. You can either keep crashing into the lighthouse, or you can go pester someone else. Your call.

          • 1213 1213

            Thanks for the laugh though, you’re so dumb it’s actually funny, especially your rant.

  • saksham

    ive liked touchwiz since it ran jelly bean it was so nice with the animations i fell in love

  • Flow

    TouchWiz and Sense are my favourite Android skins

  • micah Owensby

    I like what Samsung is doing with TouchWizz RECENTLY. As in Galaxy S7 TouchWizz. I haven’t used it personally, but from what I’ve seen online I’m impressed. Much better than LG’s atrocious Optimus UX. It is the main reason I won’t be upgrading to the G5.

    • Trevor Gold

      Check out the S7/S7 Edge at BestBuy. They have them on display to use and play around with.

  • BH

    I have always enjoyed using and prefer Touchwiz over anything else. Stock Android is just too bland… might as well have an iPhone for similar functionality and usefulness. I can wait a tic or two longer to do something in exchange for the many useful features it provides. Now if Samsung would just bring back replaceable batteries…

    • shreyans

      Well android n is now featured pack to beat the shot out of iphone

      • Trevor Gold

        And many of those features were inspired by Samsung’s TouchWiz.

        • shreyans

          Samsung copied the design from some fruit company isnt it?
          And google has taken up many features from many oems not copy paste” but rather intuitively and better than many other oems

          I like stock and anything but nothing korean and chinese please.

  • ZxyLady

    I love this article, it is well written and funny. even if I don’t fully agree with the whole article, it is written well enough to enjoy. great work.

    • monsterdonutkid

      Can’t lie, intro is catchy af. Good job, Andrew. Lol

    • Andrew Grush

      Thank you for the kind words. That’s the great thing about opinions, we don’t all have the same. Great when we can respect one another’s differences though. :) And yah, I tried to inject a bit of my geek humor (to varying degrees of success…) in order to keep things from getting to heavy.

  • Dize Odisu

    This obsession with stock seems joyless and unimaginative.
    Even in this article its just silly how the guy was excited about how he can make a very flexible and customizable phone look like a bland, stock phone.
    I mean wow! The point flew way over his head.
    Heheh, his brain is stuck on stock.

    • Andrew Grush

      I probably should have better worded my point, but it wasn’t so much that I was excited to make my phone look like stock… but that you COULD. That freedom and flexibility was impressive. For the record, I am using TW launcher and its default theme, at least for now. :)

  • shreyans

    My phone zenfone 2 gives more free ram and smoothness than s7 😜😜😂😂

    • Trevor Gold

      And probably lacks features

  • mobilemann

    dear AA, i’m turning AD block on from your site, because besides, being a biased, inaccurate look at the mobile landscape, your autoplay video’s are what’s called over the line and obnoxious.

  • Jatin

    I think Samsung does make touchwiz loaded with extra features that go missing on stock Android and it is intuitive as well. My main problem with touchwiz has been design. i think it not pretty and fun to use at all, though, it got a lot better with Note series and slightly bettr looking with S6 and S7, i still there is a lot of room for better design.

  • jay

    The problem I am have is that touch wiz is so big and that’s why I download a rom that only uses 450MB not a big fan of it but Samsung getting it right now

    • godutch

      I think half of a touchwiz rom is the office suite which they made a deal with MS to include, I guess it means cheaper phones for us

  • Ruel Smith

    I like TouchWiz, but I must confess that it’s not nearly as fluid as I’d like. As far as themes go, Samsung’s theme collection is horrible. I see posts of gorgeous CM 13 themes and just get disappointed when I visit Samsung’s theme store.

  • Cakefish

    This is a great article. I agree 100%! I used to be a hardcore Nexus fan, only interested in what mother Google produced. Then Google went and made the colossal Nexus 6 and I was forced to start looking elsewhere. I still love ‘pure’ Google Android but I have come to really like the extras that manufacturers like Samsung and Sony include in their custom software. It’s useful stuff that you can only get on Nexus phones by rooting, which is something I don’t want to be forced to do.

  • VanceVEP72

    I just recently switched from a GS4 to a Nexus 5X. I don’t think the real hate is with Touchwiz itself. More likely, it’s the major bloat that Samsung (and the carrier) build into the phone that can’t be uninstalled.

    • Trevor Gold

      OEM and Carriers are two different things.

  • 1213 1213

    Touch wiz is the best ui by OEMs. You also have the option to hide things from the app drawer.

  • Android Developer

    How about a vote on this?

    • Android Developer

      vote here if you think touchwiz is good/great/ok.

      • Android Developer

        vote here if you think touchwiz is bad/awful…

        • Marty

          Bad/awful.

          • Android Developer

            I meant +1 , and not replying…

  • Roy Stevens

    1.1 GB’s Free out of 4GB? That sure is a lot of memory used.

  • VAVA Mk2

    Only 1 or 1.2 GB free of RAM? Dear Lord what a hog! 🐖

    • godutch

      free ram is wasted ram! it’s only a problem when the system can’t free enough ram for new app and the OOM-killer kicks in

  • Rick_Deckard

    Great article!

  • Some Guy

    It used to be a laggy mess, but thanks to many optimizations, Touchwiz has become something to contend with. Compared to the junk UI on my G flex, this is a major advancement in Touchwiz.

  • I’m a longtime admirer of TouchWiz. Thanks for this article, it made me feel great.

  • James Theodore Retuya

    Idiots just want to remain idiots. That’s why they bash things they don’t understand. Pathetic.

  • Louie Cafarella

    Idk why everyone friggin complains so much about TouchWiz. Who gives AF! Some folks have way too much time on their hands. In the case of the S7 edge, it’s an $800 mini computer that does just about everything. who cares about TouchWiz man.

    • Kapteinstein

      Because when you buy a mini computer for 800$ you expect it to be faster than an iPhone 4 after a few months use

  • katherine

    Can someone please explain to me exactly what TouchWiz and Stock Andriod mean!!???

    • Stoffsprenger

      Google it

    • balcobomber25

      TouchWiz is Samsung’s User Interface, like a skin they put on top of Android. Stock is the pure experience from Google.

  • Kunal Narang

    I have hated TouchWiz from 2013 but last year I used my friend’s S6 edge and was completely blown away by the experience. That was the first time I was really impressed with TouchWiz and that continued with S6 edge plus, Note 5 and now the S7 and S7 edge. I think Samsung has tried to make TouchWiz much more closer to stock Android and that is in the right direction. With that being said, I love the new TouchWiz.

  • balcobomber25

    TouchWiz has improved over the years but it is still a terrible rom. The worst thing about it is the the amount of crap ware that comes pre-installed. There much better custom UI’s available that aren’t as boring as stock or as bloated as TouchWiz.

  • Kapteinstein

    From the authors limited time with TouchWiz I understand, however, living with TouchWiz for a few months it becomes incredibly laggy

    • hc792

      Nah, it doesn’t.

      • Kapteinstein

        Try a nexus and you’ll see the difference.

      • godutch

        in fact my s6 has gotten smoother and smoother (with a big regression with the first 5.1.1 update)

  • Lam

    There’s still a one major flaw on my note 5 touchwiz that bugs me. On certain apps lfor example bbc app, the scrolling is jerky. Even on google maps the panning is not as smooth on nexus phones or even xioami. Other than that I loved touchwiz, even more than stock Android on my nexus 6.

    • godutch

      Is this still a problem, it was very noticable in chrome but that seems fixed now since a few months (or at least in MM)?

      • Lam

        No chrome is smooth. It only happens in some apps. Another one is Google newsstand.

  • jcamachott

    When my G4 died I decided on the Note 5…my first samsung device. Touchwiz is not that bad…the phone can still be a little janky at times though…its not as smooth as the G4 was…but the S-Pen features have won me over.

  • godutch

    You should try touchwiz on a more mature phone, like the s6, it is smooth, really smooth. Give the S7 a little bit more time and touchwiz will become even better.

    I used to be a stock or sense fan, hated touchwiz too after the s2 but to be honest I don’t think I would want anything else anymore

    • N2Fracture

      Wow my experience with my S6 has been the complete opposite.
      The lag can be unbearable at times. Sometimes verging on “stuck”. It’s not rare for the phone to take so long to react that I’ve tried a second or third time before it decides to just go ahead and read them as multiple inputs and take me somewhere I didn’t want to go.

      • godutch

        My phone really is fast, there isn’t a lag or jitter there (only after the 502->511 the phone lagged and jittered); people who say this are either on an ancient version or have messed too much with their phone, disabling stuff which they shouldn’t have thinking it would speed (but instead the phone expects some input from the disabled app or service and hangs untill it times out)

        • N2Fracture

          I’m on 5.1.1 after 2 factory resets. The only system apps disabled are S Voice and Messages.
          I’m a recovering root’n’ rommer. I tried to use the phone untouched and only started disabling apps when I realized how slow this thing was.
          Besides Samsung doesn’t let you disable anything that would be “troublesome” no matter how much you want to.

          • godutch

            Are you on some us carrier with very slow updates? And what do you mean by lag? Some lag in touchwiz actually is intentional and can be set (if you are rooted), eg. the home button lag

          • N2Fracture

            I mean real lag count to three before a response lag. Or type and wait kind of lag. Even the camera quick launch is slow.
            I’m on Bell Canada which I would not doubt is the absolute slowest in the world to push out updates. I think I got 5.1.1 in November . And my last monthly security update was in December.

          • godutch

            Blame your provider not touchwiz, see if you can flash an open canadian rom

          • N2Fracture

            I can blame both.
            A premium device should work out of the box like a premium device. It would be unfair of manufacturers to expect us to wait for it to get better and unreasonable of us to expect increasingly better software on devices that have already become commoditized. I would never tell someone to spend their hard earned money on a phone that may get better in the future.
            I had the original Galaxy S and TouchWiz was atrocious. That’s why I started playing with custom Roms. I no longer have the time or the luxury of being able to have a phone that doesn’t just work.
            The reviews said TouchWiz was better and it is. But if you ask me is still not good enough.
            Don’t even get me started on carriers 😠

          • godutch

            Updates are a complex business, even apple messes them up. I don’t know which version you are on but I can assure you that even the newer 511 builds for the s6 are very good.

            And next time don’t buy a phone directly from your carrier, if you want subsidised phones renew in a (n online) phone store, they tend to have non carier branded phones

  • N2Fracture

    Has anyone else seen their phone get faster over time?
    Any phone? Updates aside.
    My S6 was a pre-order and is only gotten worse.

    • Check your s6,- maybe it’s fake. I saw a Chinese s6 for 150USDollars.

      • N2Fracture

        Seriously? It was a pre-order. So unless someone swapped it in the mail…
        And what would make you even suggest that.
        I’m asking if anyone had ever seen they’re phone get faster over time?

    • Patrick Smithopolis

      My Nexus 5 is as fast or faster than the day I bought it. The battery life is atrocious though.

    • godutch

      Phones tend to slow down when the storage fills up and before there was a bug where the storage never got trimmed (necessary to keep emmc and ssd snappy) but that bug got fixed in the jellybean days causing phones to creep to a near halt but if you shut your phone down at night and just charge it, you still might never get trimmed. My S6 got release firmware and 2 502 updates, these 2 updates where really good and snappy, then 511 hit the phone and made the phone kind of laggy for 2 updates until september (last update until MM but very good), the MM update made the phone even snappier, sometimes even too snappy (because when scrolling in eg the app drawer even the slightest touch can launch an app almost instantaneously)

  • Jonez86

    I’ve tried TouchWiz on a S6 and while it’s relatively in-offensive. For me it’s not as visually appealing as stock Android, I prefer the cleaner sharper look than the curvy icons.

    The thing that really annoys me about Samsung phones and the reason I won’t buy one, is that I absolutely despise the amount of bloat and cr*p they put on them. It’s like buying a cheap windows PC and having to sit there uninstalling sh*te for an hour.. . I don’t want Microsofts apps baked in, I don’t need 4 sodding cloud storage options, it’s complete greed on their part. Their phones are some of the most expensive Android ones available, they don’t need to make extra money by pre-installing cr*p.

    • godutch

      Their phones are packed to the brim with top of the line components beyond Apple quality but unlike Apple they can’t make money on the app store and such yet they offer the phone at a very competitive price, all the whilst having to pay off patent trolls like (MS and Apple). You should have gotten the largest storage option

      • Jonez86

        I’ve got no problem with storage and neither did I mention I own a Samsung phone (I’ve just had to set a lot of them up unfortunately, maybe that’s why it annoys me more).

        I’m not sure I agree that’s the reason they install cr*p on their phones either.. . They’re the biggest Android manufacturer and could throw their weight around if they wanted, they’ve made those deals because it’s favourable to them, not because they were having to pay off people.

        I remember reading about the whole Microsoft vs Samsung patent thing and the pre-install of all the Microsoft stuff is clearly a result of that, but instead of just paying up (like the majority of manufacturers) they made a deal and passed all that bloatware onto the customer. I have no idea and nor can I be bothered to read up whether MS patents are valid though.

        • godutch

          They really need to make money on their phones just like the rest. The rest cheats, you get cheap shit mixed in with some stand-out top stuff

  • Greyhame

    I used TW on the S6. Rooted it to remove much of the bloat and speed it up. Don’t get me started on RAM management. I think that while the author does make some fair points, he is confusing the road Samsung took to get here. They didn’t strip any of the extra bloat out, they simply waited for processing power to bail them out of the lag that TW adds. You cannot honestly tell me with a straight face that S-Voice is a feature you prefer over stock Google Search. Having it there adds unnecessary heft, and that’s just one example of many redundant features TW tries to add over stock. Just remove them and let stock Android handle it already!

    • godutch

      s voice works with languages unsupported by google now

  • Clark

    I like the Proclaimers too

  • Gary Demirdjian

    “Yes, TouchWiz does use a lot of RAM – with only about 1 to 1.2GB free most of the time, out of 4GB”

    Are you f’in serious? 4 gigs of RAM and usually 1 to 1.2 gigs available? You’re kidding right?

    • godutch

      they let go 1.2 GB to waste wow?

  • Person Dude

    I’ll agree that the 2015 and 2016 iterations of Touchwiz aren’t bad at all (aside from how they manage default apps and RAM management), and I say this as a big stock Android fan. However, the Touchwiz launcher is still absolute garbage. The non-self-alphabetizing ordering of apps in the app drawer, the inability to move the app drawer icon from the right, and the juvenile looking app icons are totally off-putting.

    I also still maintain that the S3, S4, and S5 versions of Touchwiz are the bloatiest, laggiest, worst Android experiences you could find both days. I used it when I got my S4 for a few hours, but immediately switched to Cyanogenmod right after.

  • Synacks

    This is a fantastically expressed article. Not because I agree with the opinions and lots of facts here, but it finally addresses that Touchwiz today is simply not the Touchwiz that everyone had their panties in a bunch from years prior.

    Props to Samsung for POLISHING instead of forcing useless gimmicks. This is the most highly polished phone I’ve seen to date. The S6 Edge to the S7 Edge might not appear to be wildly different from photos, but as soon as you pick one up it’s an entirely different beast altogether.

    As a now ex-S6 Edge owner, the S7 Edge completely embarrasses it in every way. The bar has been raised and this might be the first phone I own for more than a year unless Samsung finds a way to improve with the S8 Edge.

  • Daniel Herrera

    My Note 4 is a beast, I like the features touchwiz includes with the Note 4.

  • mobilemann

    yes, the s4, via a exploit, like an iOS user jailbreaking. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Ever new verizon phone has a locked bootloader, so you are relying on a exploit, and enough hackers to care, about a single variant of a single phone model. This is why so many don’t get broken, and why iOS get’s JB’d every year. You have thousands of talented hackers around the world working on one goal for all carriers.

    Anything with phones that were sold in 2015? you_prove_my_point

    • MattBoan

      If by exploit you mean something like Odin, then sure. Except for the fact that I never had to use Odin on the s4. And Bump! wasn’t for “my” carrier variant. It was built and worked for all variants of the G3. And no, “so many don’t get broken” only by the manufacturers who lock their phones down tight for carriers. Samsung, of which, is the worst about it. So I fail to see whatever little point yyou are attempting to make unless you are poised to start ranting and raving about Android fragmentation due to carrier variants.

      • mobilemann

        i said for new devices, not the s4. Learn what a boot loader lock is you amazing nub.

        • MattBoan

          Oh I see. You’re one of those people who relished the beginning days of Android, when we actually had full control of our devices and they weren’t locked down by carriers. Well guess what? We’re still able to get root and ROMs on certain devices sold through carriers, without having the bootloader fully unlocked. Sure, it may not be as wide-open as it once was. But to over generalize everything as a “jailbreak-like” feature because it is not as simple is pathetic, at best. Yes, ROMs are still referred to as CM-based or AOSP-based without being true CM and AOSP ROMs like you can find for Nexus devices. But nitpicking over something so small is just…petty. God forbid that the way things are done have to change for carrier variants. When did comment sections on Android websites become populated by children as opposed to adults who knew how to have a thoughtful, intelligent discussion instead of playing childish troll games?

          • mobilemann

            i’m not playing any games, the main thing that attracted me to android was the open-ness. If i want polish, i’ll use iOS, which has a better app store. Yes, you can still get root, but you can get that on iOS devices too.

            And yes, as these mobile OS’s mature, there’s less and less reason to root all the time, but that again isn’t in android’s favor. But at the core, you’re right. i’m salty for the older days.

      • mobilemann

        and yes, you didn’t have to use odin, cause you used a community dev’d tool which took advantage of some gaping hold in samsung s services.

  • Richard Wayoe

    Touchwiz is the best version of android

  • Faisal Shahzad

    I had similiar experience moving from s2 to htc m7. S2 really was a game changer for Samsung back then and was the best android phone i used especially after rooting. Coming from a rooted htc one, I do feel the restriction of an unrooted phone but I applaud the effort by Samsung to make it more customization friendly. Humble opinion after my 2 days using the S7 Edge.

  • Bill Knoblauch

    I used root my s4 and realized that i lost tons of options and so i would only root it with a rom that had touch wiz features. I feel that anyone without touchwiz is extremely limited in options

  • Jay Quir

    Not even going to lie I had a galaxy s4 and hated it sooo bad due to touchwiz. Now seeing the different options, ideas, and fixing that Samsung has brought I am actually looking at trying out the GS7 edge.

  • BeerFuelledDude

    The way people defend TouchWiz – sound exactly the same as people defending iPhones. But the way people, with any Android phone, slate iPhone users think they’re far superior than them! For the record, I’m a converted iPhone -> Nexus user

  • Christopher Wortman

    I have always loved TouchWiz

  • An Droid

    I’ve said this for years. Too many pencil neck nerds out there dissing a UI they have never used. I flashed CM on my S3 on various occasions to try out new Android versions, but always restored to TW because of the lack of features in “stock”. Android itself, over the years, had adopted many features that TW users had enjoyed for a long time, and that in itself says it all.