Xiaomi Mi 5 first impressions: this beast costs half the price of the Galaxy S7

by: Lanh NguyenFebruary 25, 2016
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Xiaomi may be yet to get a foothold in the US, but the Chinese OEM is very popular in its home market, and is also making waves in emerging markets like India. Xiaomi just took the wraps off of their latest high-end offering at MWC 2016, and we got to spend some time with the device. Here is the first look, as we go hands on with the Xiaomi Mi 5!

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There are few versions of the Mi 5 that are going to be available, but all of them will be powered by Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 820. The base models will come with 32 GB or 64 GB of internal storage, along with 3 GB of RAM, and there is also a Pro version, featuring 128 GB of internal storage and 4 GB of RAM. The version you opt for also dictates the design language you get, with the base models coming with a metal and glass unibody construction, while the Pro iteration features a ceramic backing.

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All versions of the Mi 5 come with a large 3,000 mAh battery, that should provide for decent battery life, and with a USB Type-C port and Snapdragon processor, the device will be able to take advantage of Qualcomm’s QuickCharge 3.0 fast charging capabilities.

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As far as the design language is concerned, it remains familiar to previous Xiaomi devices, with glass on the front and back, and metal that wraps around the sides. The back features Xiaomi’s “3D Glass,” which is essentially a fancy name for the glass backing that tapers down on the sides, similar to what was seen with the Samsung Galaxy Note 5 and the newly-announced Galaxy S7. As is the case with most devices with a similar build, the glass backing proves to be a big fingerprint magnet. However, the overall build of the phone feels solid, and the handling experience is really good, courtesy of its smaller 5.15-inch display, and thin bezels along the sides of the screen.

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The Xiaomi Mi 5 comes with a 5.15-inch IPS LCD display with a 1080p resolution. The resolution may not be Quad HD, as is now the expectation from current generation flagships, but in the short time we got to spend with the device, the viewing experience seems to be quite good. The colors are vibrant and saturated, viewing angles are nice, and the display seems to get pretty bright. Below the display is where you will notice a physical home button, which isn’t a typical addition with Xiaomi smartphones. This home button, however, is the way for Xiaomi to introduce a fingerprint scanner into the mix.

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The Mi 5 comes with a 16 MP rear camera with phase detection auto focus, an f/2.0 aperture, and optical image stabilization. Of course, we’ll have to test the camera a lot more to see what kind of performance and image quality it provides, but the camera application itself looks to be simple enough, and the shutter speed was actually surprisingly fast.

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On the software side of things, you get the latest iteration of Xiaomi’s MIUI OS, based on Android 6.0 Marshmallow. The user interface remains quite similar to what is seen from a lot of other Chinese OEMs, with colorful squared icons, and the lack of an app drawer. You do get Xiaomi’s services and features built in, including an integrated Theme store that lets you change the look and feel of the interface.

So there you have it for quick look at the Xiaomi Mi 5! The Mi 5 will be available in China from March 1, and will make its way over to other markets like India shortly after. The device is priced at $260 for the base model, going up to $350 for the ceramic Pro version. With such as affordable price tag, coupled with top of the line specifications and a solid design, the Xiaomi Mi-5 is going to be quite the contender, and here’s to hoping that the device will somehow see an official release in the US.

Stay tuned with Android Authority as we continue to bring you more great coverage from MWC 2016!

  • vasek

    Does anybody know which FDD LTE frequencies are in fact inside?????

    • MaxPower

      1/3/7

      • Kasim Raza

        are you sure about that? where is it stated? if that true its gonna be my next phone!

        • MaxPower

          I’m 100% positive.
          I’ve been one of their customers for a while now, I also own their MI4 and Redmi Note3 Pro.

          Their phones usually support FDD
          Band 1 for the carrier China Telecom, Band 3 for China Unicom and Band 7 for the carrier China Mobile Hong Kong.

          I haven’t seen any official list but according to their vice president Hugo Barra this phone will have full network coverage (meant for China, no US LTE or EU band 20) which includes also CDMA2000 support for China Telecom and a bunch of TD-LTE bands that work only there.

          • Kasim Raza

            In the UK there are three different 4Gfrequencies in use: 800 MHz, 1800 MHz (1.8 GHz) and 2600 MHz (2.6 GHz)..

            Does that mean these will all be supported then?

          • MaxPower

            It will NOT support band 20 (800 MHZ)

            It will support band 3 (1800 MHZ)
            It will support band 7 (2600 MHZ)

            Which means that you’ll get full LTE support in the UK unless your carrier operates mostly with the 800 MHZ band.

            The 800 MHZ is the slowest band of the 3 mentioned above but at the same time it’s the one with the wider range so it’s used by carriers to reach rural places.

            If you live in a major town or city you shouldn’t worry about lack of band 20 (800 MHZ).
            Otherwise you want to check with your carrier to know which band their using in your town

          • Kasim Raza

            God Dam it. I’m with Vodafone who mainly use 800mhz. I can’t seem to get a decent signal with any other provider in my house. But as I leave and put a 50 meter space between me and my house they all work perfectly. Ridiculous. Thanks a lot for your assistance buddy

          • MaxPower

            No problem.

            Keep in mind that most of the Chinese phones won’t support band20 (Huawei and a couple more do) but they still work with 3G.
            I get decent HSPA+ speed (10mb) here in the US.

            So they are still a bargain if you don’t mind LTE and settle with HSPA+

          • vasek

            Server Anandtech dot com says something… I can not put url here. Check it please, the first article about Mi5.

          • MaxPower

            Wtf!

          • MaxPower

            I double checked. 1/3/7 only like I thought.
            Somehow people from Anandtech got fooled by a fake data sheet appeared on Weibo.

          • Kasim Raza

            yh im gonna have to double check if i get decent H+ speeds around here first. If they’re OK then ill take the plunge i guess. Is it expensive to implement more bands in the modem? chinese phones never have 20

          • MaxPower

            There’s the cost of the antenna + fees to operate on those frequencies.
            For this reason Chinese companies don’t use unnecessary bands if they don’t have an official presence in that specific country.

            You’ll see band20 on phones that sell in Europe officially:
            Huawei,Zopo,Oneplus to name few of them.

          • ajftl250

            i love when we can’t get LTE and says i get decent HSPA speed lol yea like in one spot or two LTE or nothing that kinda what made me stop buying Chinese phones

          • MaxPower

            Some people are mostly on wifi don’t care of LTE.

            Many live in a rural place where the signal is weak and they get H+ only.

            Many wants LTE but then can’t afford a data plan bigger than 1 GB a month (in many countries LTE is still very pricey).

            And I can keep going with examples.

            What works best for you does not necessary mean that should work for others too.

          • Öysan Kulbay

            The biggest shit I’ve always had to live with in Sweden. One of the leading telecommunication countries in the world and I can only get 4G in specific places around Stockholm.
            With that said, 3G+ is more then sufficient to be used in Europe and that is thanks to the speeds it has gained through optimizations over the years. I’ve used lots of chinese phones and all of them have had excellent 3G+ receptiopns.
            The reason for all my problems with 4G isn’t because of the lack of the bandwidth or speed, it is in the phones. All of the retarded OEMS across this planet has shitty modems(or whatever it is called), which doesn’t swich between networks fast enough. Takes forever for them to lock on to 4G or whatever and THAT is what all the OEMS across the world should focus on.

          • ajftl250

            xioami vivo meizu all of these Chinese with the exception of huawei don’t have the necessary bands for lte in usa hate it like why not ? like huawei do smart

  • marrecar

    “The resolution may not be Quad HD, as is now the expectation from current generation flagships…”
    What is this nonsense?! I don’t think anyone expects a flagship to have QHD screen, 1080p is still the thing, and hopefully will stay that way, at least for phones up to 5.5″. It’s a good resolution and you literally don’t need QHD on such small space.

    • KeyserSoze

      If you use your phone with VR headsets you definitely need QuadHD.

      • marrecar

        VR headsets aren’t spread that much at this point, so there is no need for QHD. And average users really don’t care about VR. Lije, only real tech geeks would go for it, and honestly, they’d buy real VR, the one that don’t need phone as “screen”.

        • KeyserSoze

          Now that Samsung offers a free VR headset with S7/S7 Edge purchase, it could become much more popular than before.

          • TheMysteryMan

            Only on preorders. I am not so sold on VR platform. Anything that needs gear to be word by the user has failed.
            Wearables are prime examples of this. 3 years back, the wearables were going to be the next big thing. It didnt happen. Lot of people I know who bought the wearables dont use it regularly or at all any more.
            Then there were 3D TVs with 3G googles. Failed for home use.

            VR is nice and all, I have 3 VR headsets with me. I rarely use them. The content is even today, very limited. Even though it is growing, there are some real hurdles in its path. The biggest being the split screen VR using mobile handsets is not good enough. The field of view on those types of VR is very limited. And yes, I have used galaxy VR.

            Then there is LG approach which needs different head unit with its own built in screen rendering phone resolution pointless.

            I have now used 4 QHD phones, and all of them were very limited by battery life. Yes, I can see the difference between 1080P and QHD. So those saying it does not matter are just plain wrong. But the cost of battery life is just too high.

            Then came the Xiaomi’s 1080P screen phone with Snapdragon 650 and its Cortex A72 cores. It is fast, really fast. It has big battery 4000mah. It sticks to 1080P screen, but the flipside? Look at that massive battery life. Every phone should be like this today. I can practically forget about managing my battery life over 1 day. I can hammer it the way i want, play games, use gps, use mobile data whole day long knowing I dont have to worry about battery life.

            This was only possible by using 1080P screen. And I am fine with that because of the battery life I get.

            As much as I love my iPhone 6s Plus or Note 5. I have switched to this so called midbudget phone for the battery life.

            Now Mi5 has smaller 5 inch screen and more powerful SoC, but the one thing they do know is how to optimise their MIUI for battery life. Mi4 offered fantastic battery life in this same form factor. And I fully support their decision of sticking to FHD screens this year. I will mostly be getting Mi 5 when it launches here soon (already announced for my country)

            VR can wait or simply go away. I would rather have LG like solution than doubling up phone screen as VR headset.

          • KeyserSoze

            I like Samsung’s nice strategy of introducing VR to mainstream consumers or non-geeks. It provides a nice gateway to more sophisticated higher-end VR systems down the road, drives costs down eventually… more quickly even.

          • piciu256

            but 4hd is still too low resolution for vr… 4k mayby will be enough, but I guess I would still see dots

          • siddharath

            Is this Redmi Note 3 ( snapdragon variant) battery result

          • TheMysteryMan

            Yes, I am one of the explorers who got this device on 8th feb. Launch is on 3rd March at 2PM.

          • dvdlgh

            Samsung’s smartphone business isn’t making much of a profit. Giveaways won’t help profits.

        • Roby

          HTC, Facebook, Google, LG, Samsung, Microsoft… All of them are investing in VR.
          How the hell are they going to drive VR forward if not even their flagships are capable of properly displaying VR content?

          • marrecar

            Uhm, how about investing in a VR that doesn’t need your phone? But that’s not how market works and all those companies don’t want that simply because now you have to spend more money to buy a phone with such resolution plus the headset itself. And HTC Vive doesn’t need a phone.

          • Roby

            Your brain is malfunctioning.
            The HTC vive costs $799, while an HTC flagship still costs you $600-700. With an S7 preorder you get BOTH a phone and VR kit for the price of the Vive. Samsung is simply way more affordable than certain competitors, not everyone wants to pay a fortune for VR. Besides, this is an excellent way of spreading VR to people who otherwise might not have considered it. If you can’t uderstand that you really should check your brain.
            Anyway, goodbye, I explained everything there is to explain.

          • marrecar

            Get your facts straight. You literally can’t compare HTC Vive, a fully capable headset, with a headset that is given away for free. And as far as I understand, it’s a limited offer, for example here only first 50 purchases of S7 get the headset. But put that aside. HTC Vive can do much more and has much more potential, like Oculus Rift, it has much more capability than Samsung’s VR, which is basically a piece of plastic with lenses. You can’t compare those two in any way. That’s my whole point, flagships that have screen size up to 5.5″ needn’t QHD resolution.

          • Fitnesspro

            You are an obnoxious, insidious self-proclaimed expert on one big NOTHING.

          • King_Android

            Because then you would have to charge for a product that people are still trying to figure out its true purpose. So if you can get a similar experience for free why not test those waters first before spending billions in RnD costs for a product that people arent even sure they want it yet or the benefits of it, let alone pay hundreds of dollars for.

          • James Benedict Matthews

            But Vive needs a fairly high-end PC which brings the total price up over $2000. Also needs a fairly large dedicated space.

        • Hans Pedersen

          Google said last month that over 5 millions were using Google Cardboard. It’s a bit more than jsut the hardcore geeks who are into VR these days.

          • marrecar

            Cardboard? Really? People bought that out of curiosity because it’s cheap as f. I bet they don’t have any data on how much users use it on daily basis, or even a month. It sure won’t be a huge number.

          • Hans Pedersen

            And I bet over 20 billion people, in Luxemburg alone, are super into VR.
            I’m probably as right with that claim as you are with yours.

          • OUT

            *cough* excuse me but the population of the world is around 7 billion and change. idk how luxemburg alone could have over 20 billion people

          • Get With The Times

            All the well educated, ethically conscious people nowadays know not to buy any Chinese brands.

            It’s easy to price Chinese junk at dirt cheap prices when the sleazy
            Chinese spend $0 on R&D and hijack the supply chain process of the
            people you’re supposed to make things for.

            It’s exactly like if
            you spent years developing a recipe for the best cake ever, and also
            built an amazing oven that pops them out. You hand both over to your
            sleazy Chinese neighbor who said he could handle the labor and
            production for you cheaply.

            But then you later find out that he’s secretly
            using
            YOUR recipe and YOUR oven on the side to sell his own branded cake, but
            at half your cost since he didn’t have to spend a dime on researching
            the recipe.

            You get what you pay for, Chinese quality is junk and
            deteriorates in only a short time even if it looks “fine” in the
            beginning.

            Remember that “high specs” is not the same thing as “high quality.” Xiaomi can tout that their processor, camera, memory, etc are all sourced from the same companies that other legitimate businesses do, but the reality is that these Chinese companies are actually ending up with the lower binned, left over components after all the higher quality ones are bought by the reputable companies.

            Not to mention the significant embarrassment factor of owning anything Chinese.
            Do we really want to associate ourselves with the uncivilized Chinese who publicly POOP on streets and airplane seats?

          • Shemploo

            You’re probably writing this on an Asian manufactured device..

            So ignorant too.

          • Robert

            There’s nothing wrong with Asian. It’s specifically the Chinese who are the menace. Most of our products are unfortunately manufactured in China due to cheap labor, but there’s a critical difference between buying a US product that’s just assembled in China VS. buying this phone and directly funding companies from a country that wants to nuke us.

            I wouldn’t be able to call him ignorant. He’s right on point actually.

          • Shemploo

            His ignorance comes from this statement:

            “Not to mention the significant embarrassment factor of owning anything Chinese.
            Do we really want to associate ourselves with the uncivilized Chinese who publicly POOP on streets and airplane seats?” – Yet, half his shit is probably Chinese, finished product or component.

            As for components for the phones, those are the same components used in the top manufacturers too (LG/Samsung/Apple/Huawei/HTC), same production line, etc. The idea that those components are worse components cause they’re assembled in China vs Korea or wheresoever is ludicrous.

            It is possible that they are of a lesser yield, but I doubt it. I’ve been reading Android news for years, and have yet to hear that Xioami has any issues with hardware components.

            What’s silly is that there’s no mention made of actual price to manufacture, and how those ~ $800 phones are marked waaaaay up for our N.A. markets, when the true cost of the components put together should probably be closer on par with what Xiaomi is charging.

            A Xiaomi Mi 5 snapdragon 820 is the same snapdragon 820 that is used in the S7, they are not stealing the manufacturing plans and making their own versions of the chip. Minor components might differ, but I doubt they are of much lesser yield than the “top of the line” once. Maybe single digits differences in efficiency here.

            I’ve owned HTC, LG, Samsung, Motorola, OnePlus, and god knows what else, and I never had these devices fail at higher rates, or actually ever.

            Lastly, these are not cars or homes, or other objects that need to last 10 years, phones get replaced every few years anyway, unless you’re a cheap ass, or stubborn for some reason.

            I doubt people visiting this site, commenting avidly, spend more then a few years with the same phone anyway.

            To me his whole post drips of self importance and ignorance.

          • Robert

            I see what you’re sayin, but again I find it hard to see how it’s actually ignorant. I live in Toronto where there are a lot of Chinese. Unfortunately for us, it’s pretty well known that they do some, uuh, unsavory deeds to our city, to put it discreetly, haha. It’s not to the extent of what happens in China though, thankfully.

            It’s also pretty well known that the components coming from the same production line aren’t all the same quality. It’s the exact same practice that goes on in the TV industry. The best panels that pass all the QC tests go to someone like Samsung, while the the panels that are produced from the exact same line but deemed subpar are either discarded or bought up by the Chinese. Some satisfactory ones will be bought too, but that’s not a lottery that people want to participate in.

            Location of manufacturing definitely matters though. From the hundreds of clients I’ve dealt with, you can clearly see differences in oversight culture and how the QA/QC process is handled depending on the country doing it.

            (I work in automotive technology, and most of the companies in my industry do not use parts manufactured in China for most of the critical areas due to safety regulations and demand for a minimum standard of quality.)

            I’ve been following technology for many years too, and my business colleagues from India all tell me that generally speaking Chinese phones do not last beyond 10 months to a year. There will be exceptions but this is the general outcome for Chinese products.

            I completely agree, the markups on our devices are very high due to R&D and marketing and of course just plain old profiteering, but on the flip side the true cost is definitely not what these criminal Chinese companies are setting it at.

            Most of the time they are selling at or below cost while being funded by the Communist government in order to undercut and put out of business those who follow the law.

            Like I mentioned before, there really is a critical difference between being almost unable in these times to avoid buying things like, for example, an iPhone with Chinese assembled components inside, VS. outrightly buying a Chinese brand like this

            The latter is what we can call ignorant for sure. Negligent too given that a terrorist nation like China has pretty much waged every possible type of war against the West short of shooting actual bullets.

            Anyway, it was nice talkin with you.

          • Tibor

            Jesus christ, you and your opinion are so worthless. You have no clue about the world and poop on the streets? I’m pretty sure you’re one of those American nationalists that is worth nothing.

          • Robert

            Actually, it’s true though what he said about Chinese poop on the streets. Happens in restaurants, stores, bus stops, you name it.

            It’s apparently a very common practice, and the funny thing is that when you travel to various countries where Chinese tourists tend to go, they’ll have signs written only in Chinese asking them to use the restrooms properly. No other language with those instructions.

          • Get With The Times

            All the well educated, ethically conscious people nowadays know not to buy any Chinese brands.

            It’s easy to price Chinese junk at dirt cheap prices when the sleazy Chinese

            spend $0 on R&D and hijack the supply chain process of the people they’re supposed to make things for.

            It’s exactly like if you spent years developing a recipe for the best cake ever, and also built an amazing oven that pops them out. You hand both over to your sleazy Chinese

            neighbor who said he could handle the labor and production for you cheaply.

            But then you later find out that he’s secretly using YOUR recipe and YOUR oven on the side to sell his own branded cake, but at half your cost since he didn’t have to spend a dime on researching the recipe.

            You get what you pay for, Chinese quality is junk and deteriorates in only a short time even if it looks “fine” in the beginning.

            Remember that “high specs” is not the same thing as “high quality.” Xiaomi can tout that their processor, camera, memory, etc are all sourced from the same companies that other legitimate businesses do, but the reality is that these Chinese companies are actually ending up with the lower binned, left over components after all the higher quality ones are bought by the reputable companies.

            Not to mention the significant embarrassment factor of owning anything Chinese.
            Do we really want to associate ourselves with the uncivilized Chinese who publicly POOP on streets and airplane seats?

          • Get With The Times

            You might be surprised, but I’ve stated nothing but facts. I do have more than just a clue about the world.

          • Get With The Times

            Also, I’m not American. I’m Australian and I embrace diversity.
            I just
            do not embrace an evil country like China that hacks, steals, and copies
            everything.

          • YOLO#

            Australian – descendant of criminals. nuff said.

          • Shane Rhodes

            We are all descendants of British colonisation. They just chose to use our country as a prison. From my understanding, your country was used as a prison for slaves imported from another country, which is much worse.

          • dvdlgh

            Don’t forget the religious wackos that came across the pond.

          • jay

            you absolutely right. don’t think that all these cheap brands spend a lot money in R&D. maybe in the software but not in the hardware. however almost all phones are made in china now and for most of the companys are just making another finishing and sell them for a decent price.

          • balcobomber25

            Xiaomi isn’t a cheap brand they spend just as much on R&D as Samsung or LG.

          • jay

            I like new company’s like xiaomi or oneplus. Just wondering who come there are cheaper then others ?

          • balcobomber25

            They have lower operating costs and in Xiaomi’s case they sell for close to cost and make up the difference through sustained sales and the MIUI store (similar to Google Play).

          • jay

            I just ordered a honor 5x for some android fun. Hope that I can run some custom Roms on it. Yes like these new companies that sell quality products for a affordable price. Hope that people buying them and others lower there price.

          • Robert

            Do not give your precious money to these criminal Chinese. They are cheaper because they have lower costs, and they have lower costs because they don’t have to spend on R&D, and they don’t have to spend on R&D because they just steal from other countries.

            The parts on these Chinese phones are also lower quality.

          • jay

            All phones are made in China

          • Robert

            There’s a critical difference between buying a US product that’s just
            assembled in China VS. buying this phone and directly funding companies from a country that wants to nuke us.

            Ultimately, it would also be better for all manufacturing to pull out of China, but that will take longer and is harder than a simple action like not buying this phone that you and I can easily do right now.

          • voice of reason

            Ur dumb

          • Robert

            Not really.

          • Robert

            That’s the funniest joke I’ve heard in my entire life.

          • balcobomber25

            I guess you need to get out more then.

          • Robert

            No worries. I already do. The question is do you ever get out of your troll basement?

          • balcobomber25

            About as much as you do apparently.

          • Robert

            How sharp of you.

          • tyler durden

            “Do we really want to associate ourselves with the uncivilized Chinese who publicly POOP on streets and airplane seats?”

            You just showed your level of intelligence with that statement.
            You sound like a Donald Trump support.

          • GetWithTheTimes

            I’ve stated nothing but facts. You don’t have to like facts, but there’s no denying them.

          • balcobomber25

            I lived in China for a year never once saw anyone poop on the street. I have seen that in downtown New York and Syndney, Australia before tho.

          • Robert

            Your ridiculous comment about Xiaomi’s R&D budget elsewhere and now this just exposed you as a habitual liar or a Chinese troll.

            Anyone who’s been to China knows what you just said is a flat out lie.

          • balcobomber25

            Xiaomi is one of the 5 biggest phone manufacturer in the world. Escape from your bubble and you will learn all sorts of new and exciting things. Xiaomi’s R&D budget and Samsung Mobile (just the phone decision) aren’t as far off as you seem to think. Not to mention Samsung is always in court for stealing Apple’s patents, not much of a budget needed to copy others.

          • Robert

            The only person living in a bubble is you and Xiaomi will get sued to the stone ages if they entered any developed country. The only reason they have survived is by selling junk to third world countries who have no investment in IP laws.

          • balcobomber25

            Xiaomi is in Singapore, why they haven’t been “sued to the stone ages” there? They are a first world country, they compete with both Samsung and Apple there. Apple has sued in the Singaporean courts in the past, so why are they letting Xiaomi sell millions of phones in Singapore? Singapore has some of the toughest and strongest IP laws in the world.

          • Robert

            Boy do you not know how business works. The absence of a lawsuit at the present does not indicate that there is an absence of infringement. The only people who would immediately launch a lawsuit are the NPE’s, while the big dogs will wait until it actually matters. Right now, the cost-benefit analysis does not compel a company like Apple to launch a lawsuit even if they have every right to do it.

            Also, there are political reasons. Apple has been trying to expand their business in China. It would not be a surprise if Apple was given specific terms to adhere to in exchange for market entry.

          • balcobomber25

            The fact that Apple has already filed several lawsuits in Chinese courts makes your entire argument invalid.

          • Robert

            No. First it was Singapore, now it’s China. Boy do you like to change up your argument whenever you please.

          • balcobomber25

            How am I changing my argument. You said when Xiaomi enters a first world country they will be sued by Apple. Xiaomi is in Singapore, Apple is in Singapore. Xiaomi hasn’t been sued yet. Are you denying Singapore as a first world country?

            Then you said Apple was afraid to sue a Chinese company. That is also false they have already filed several lawsuits in Chinese courts.

            Do you know the name Hugo Barra? He was a former Goolge Executive who is now VP of Xiaomi. When he left Google the first thing he did at Xiaomi was change the culture and prevent them from future lawsuits by acquiring their own patents and licensing any patents they used.

          • Robert

            I already answered your question about Singapore. All you’re doing is ignoring it.

            I also said there were probably predetermined agreements for Apple to adhere to in order to access the Chinese market. I have no idea what those behind closed doors terms are, and a deal does not necessarily have to be all or nothing. But I do know how deals work in China where they fleece foreign businesses of their IP. They tried to pull that on us, and we balked.

            I know Hugo Barra. The one who was unceremoniously shown the door at Google. He did not change the culture at his new company. All he is is a mouthpiece of the company trying to say ridiculous and delusional lies that run counter to what actually happens there. Even with him there Xiaomi continued to copy Apple non stop.

          • balcobomber25

            So post your proof of all these patents of Apple Xiaomi is copying. You seem to think you know everything, so prove it.

            And Hugo left Google on his own terms, once again your version of events is completely fabricated to fit your argument.

          • Robert

            Thanks for putting words in my mouth. I didn’t say they copied Apple’s patents. Google’s your friend you lazy ass and you’ll find out nothing is fabricated. You are the sleaziest arguer I’ve ever encountered.

          • balcobomber25

            You said they would be sued so who is going to sue them. The only “lazy” one here is you. Instead of actually doing research you make up stuff as you go along. Like your claim of Xiaomi not being sold in first world countries, that was wrong. Apple not filing lawsuits in China, that was wrong. In you’re never ending quest to be right you just make stuff up and hope I won’t call you out on it.

          • Robert

            The only person making stuff up and putting words in people’s mouth is you. The only person living in a bubble void of facts is you. In your never ending quest to be right, you just make stuff up and hope I won’t call you out on it. You are sleazy as sleazy comes.

          • balcobomber25

            Making stuff up like “Xiaomi doesn’t sell in first world countries, and when they do they will be sued”? Which one of us made that up again?

          • Robert

            Putting words in people’s mouths again. If you don’t think Xiaomi’s smartphones are complete ripoffs of Apple, you clearly live in a bubble. Pathetic.

          • balcobomber25

            Show me where I denied them looking like Apple devices? They clearly draw inspiration from Apple. They even use similar names (Mipad vs iPad). But Apple can’t sue for something being inspired by something else. If that was possible HTC would sue Apple for the iPhone 6 being heavily inspired by several HTC phones. They can only sue if a patent is violated. Xiaomi can make an exact replica of an Apple phone as long as they acquire all the necessary patents from Apple.

            So tell us what patents Xiaomi violates from Apple, Samsung, and others. You seem to think you are an expert on everything, so share with us why exactly they would be sued.

          • Robert

            Says the illiterate who doesn’t even know what you can sue for. Xiaomi doesn’t just “draw inspiration” they make carbon copies. Says the illiterate who says “as long as they acquire all the necessary patents from Apple” and overlooks what is and not what if. Says the illiterate who doesn’t know that HTC and Apple have a patent sharing agreement. Says the illiterate who doesn’t understand that Apple and surely many other companies will not sue them unless they try to enter the US market.

          • balcobomber25

            Again tell us all these patents Xiaomi is violating. HTC has come out and said Apple copied them, Apple sued HTC for patents. But keep making stuff up as you go alone, you look dumber and dumber as this goes on. Its actually quite comical now.

          • Robert

            Asks the illiterate who can’t accept the fact that Xiaomi has not sold in developed countries because they know they’ll be sued. Says the illiterate who doesn’t even know what you can be sued for. Says the illiterate who even admitted himself that Xiaomi violates IP. Says the illiterate who doesn’t know that a company can say whatever they want without taking legal action. You look dumber and dumber as this goes on. It’s actually quite comical now.

          • balcobomber25

            So Singapore isn’t a developed country? Keep trying buddy.

          • Robert

            Obviously Singapore is a developed country. Grasping at straws again. Are you going to keep denying that Xiaomi has avoided developed countries because they’re going to get sued? You can keep pointing to one or two examples of developed countries, but that will never change the fact that even the people running this company also agrees with what I said.

            Keep looking stupid, stupid.

          • balcobomber25

            They sell in Singapore. Singapore is a developed country. The only one grasping at straws and looking stupid is you. I am still waiting to hear why they haven’t been sued in Singpaore, Malaysia. China, Hong Kong or any other country they operate in if they are violating so many ip laws. Samsung and Apple have fled lawsuits in every one of those countries, so why are they ignoring Xiaomi? You have yet to explain that one. Did you ever think (I know that is very hard for you to do) that they have all the necessary patents or that there are no patents violated?

          • Robert

            WHOOHAHAHA. I never denied Singapore is a developed country. Illiterate again.

            Malaysia and China are not developed countries. Illiterate again. Hong Kong is a part of China. Illiterate again.

            Did you ever think (I know that is very hard for you to do) that lawsuits will happen?

            Looking stupid and sleazy again. WHOOAHAHA

          • balcobomber25

            More backtracking:

            “Are you going to keep denying that Xiaomi has avoided developed countries” This statement is false by the fact that they sell in Singapore.

            Point out where I said any of those were developed countries. Once again you can’t. If lawsuits were going to happen they would have already. Hong Kong has a separate economy and separate laws from China. From someone who does so much business in China, you would know that. If you weren;t a fraud.

            Anyways it’s been fun arguing with someone as dumb as yourself but I can only prove you wrong so much so this will be my last comment.

          • Robert

            WHOOAHAHAHA. Picking and choosing what you want to quote in order to make me look like a liar. Sleazy again.

            You implied those were developed countries. I doubt an illiterate would know what “imply” means. HAHAHAH Obviously Hong Kong has its own identity, but it’s still a PART of China, third world country. Illiterate again. WHOOAHAHAHA

            “Anyways it’s been fun arguing with someone as dumb as yourself but I can
            only prove you wrong so much so this will be my last comment.”

            Says the sleazy illiterate liar who was caught in so many bald faced lies that he’s running away embarrassed. WHOAHAHAH

          • Get With The Times

            All the well educated, ethically conscious people nowadays know not to buy any Chinese brands.

            It’s easy to price Chinese junk at dirt cheap prices when the sleazy
            Chinese spend $0 on R&D and hijack the supply chain process of the people they’re supposed to make things for.

            It’s exactly like if you spent years developing a recipe for the best cake ever, and also built an amazing oven that pops them out. You hand both over to your sleazy Chinese

            neighbor who said he could handle the labor and production for you cheaply.

            But then you later find out that he’s secretly using YOUR recipe and YOUR oven on the side to sell his own branded cake, but at half your cost since he didn’t have to spend a dime on researching the recipe.

            You get what you pay for, Chinese quality is junk and deteriorates in only a short time even if it looks “fine” in the beginning.

            Remember that “high specs” is not the same thing as “high quality.” Xiaomi can tout that their processor, camera, memory, etc are all sourced from the same companies that other legitimate businesses do, but the reality is that these Chinese companies are actually ending up with the lower binned, left over components after all the higher quality ones are bought by the reputable companies.

            Not to mention the significant embarrassment factor of owning anything Chinese.
            Do we really want to associate ourselves with the uncivilized Chinese who publicly POOP on streets and airplane seats?

          • 1defreducer1

            I thought population of World is yet to cross 6 Billion 😧‼️

        • King_Android

          Who are you to say there is no need. Just because its not widespread or you dont use it doesnt mean its no need. Get your head out of your ass

        • The Doctor

          Now that Samsung is offering free VR headsets when people preorder the S7/S7 edge, yeah, they’ll be around a lot now.

        • RiTCHiE

          Dude you know the VR bomb is gonna explode this year right?

      • Clippoz

        Not really..this phone have a snap 820 processor..that means USB 3.1 standard compatible..with that said they can easily go with the LG way: VR connected to the type C
        There you go a perfect VR experience

      • Myamo

        I agree. I’ve only used Cardboard with my Nexus 5, and it was way too pixilated to be enjoyable. It definitely has to be more than the N5s 445 ppi (which is already very high). That said, I think the push for cell phone-VR might be a bit early.

    • Andy

      Every flagship (Android) has a QHD screen and that is the route that most OEMs are taking. It was odd at first to hear them announce QHD screens but when I hear that it has an 1080p screen, I’m kind of surprised. 1080p screens help save on cost/battery so I’m on board with this decision.

    • King_Android

      And yes most who spend upwards of >$500 expects it to be QHD why, because why pay premium for a phone that doesnt provide the latest and greatest. Hence the reason why they stuck a 1080p screen in a phone that while its their flagship doesnt carry a flagship pricetag.

    • johnadams123

      While it isn’t an expectation, the top phones usually have QHD resolutions (excluding the iPhone). 1080P is more for mid/upper-range phones. It should be made a choice on phones like it is on operating systems made for personal computers. But QHD looks great when gaming or watching videos.

    • YOTOPRULES .

      qhd just slows it down

    • voice of reason

      Riiight..

  • xiao ming

    Im waiting for XiaoMi next flagship with 5.5″ or larger (preferable 6.0″)

    • King_Android

      This^^^ And Ill be all over it

    • MaxPower

      New MI Note expecting this May

      • MesTaRas

        Is this confirmed? After the Oppo find 7a, I can’t really go back to a screen smaller than 5.5. But this phone is really tempting.

        • MaxPower

          Not confirmed, most likely

    • YOTOPRULES .

      who’d want a phone that big, my nexus 5 is perfect size

      • voice of reason

        …xiao ming does.

  • KeyserSoze

    Mi 5 seems pretty decent but that ugly cheap-looking black border around the screen has got to go, makes it look like a crappy Vivo phone.

    • Pau Lauri

      buy a “ceramic mi5 pro and maybe it will not be on your eyes.

      • Stefan

        Or maybe ordinary black version? Do they calculate it into size of the screen?

        Despite that it is a great phone, but they shouldn’t say no bezel, when there is bezel.

    • RunningGreat

      I hate the way the back curves as opposed to how samsungs curve.

      • darktrain

        yeah because you spend all day looking at the curve on a phone

    • YOTOPRULES .

      get the black versions

  • Goran Jeremic

    I really want this phone!

  • maxi

    this makes iphone look like some ridiculous joke.

    • Ben

      Cause it is

      • YOTOPRULES .

        agree with you

  • Angelscry

    This phone looks boring already. Just like iphone ;)

  • vmxr

    Nice phone looks like s7 twins from another mother though :)

  • kalpavix

    my advice never buy from china because if you receive a broken phone you have nothing to do like what happend to me i received a xiaomi redmi note 3 with a camera not working and after 2 mounth i didn’t found any help from them

    • Abhijeet Gupta

      Xiaomi’s service is pretty poor in India as well. They don’t replace/ repair the devices as easily as apple/ samsung does and god forbid their front staff. Idiots. Never buying any of their products. Mi band was the first and the last one for me.

      • Anon

        customer service is good in singapore though. no problems and very happy with them.

      • RunningGreat

        Even people in China hates Xiaomi for bad business tactics.

  • KeyserSoze

    China is USA’s frienemy for the moment, but they might soon be at war with us and become our actual enemy. I wouldn’t contribute to their wealth if there’s a way to do so. It might actually be a good thing to be at war with China, maybe then the manufacturing jobs will come back to the States.

    • Anon

      having more trade with each other actually decreases the risk of war as economies being more and more intertwined.
      oh and you can forget about manufacturing jobs coming back to the states. they will and are already moving out from china as their wages are too high, more than double of vietnam right now. so jobs will just move to places like bangladesh, vietnam, the philippines, malaysia, indonesia, india etc.

      • KeyserSoze

        If USA is at war with China, Apple will no longer do business with Foxconn, that’s huge! Combine that with Trump’s presidency and some US law change that might force Apple and other US companies to manufacture at home… who knows?

        • min009

          Foxconn is a Taiwanese company and FYI, Taiwan and China are bitter enemy to this day.

          • KeyserSoze

            Fine, let’s revise my statement to say “Apple will no longer do business with China, that’s huge!”. How’s that? Doesn’t change my point any does it?

          • min009

            ….
            Buy Apple is doing business with Taiwan…
            Apple sell their product in China at a very high premium and that actually generate money for USA. If Apple cut all business tie with China, it will not benefit US at all. Also, the job that will come.back to US will be low wages job.

          • KeyserSoze

            >>> Apple sell their product in China at a very high premium and that actually generate money for USA <<>> Also, the job that will come.back to US will be low wages job. <<<

            Then raise the minimum wage law, Apple can afford it. Their gigantic profits need to benefit the American workers, not just the rich executives.

          • min009

            Or get a better education and get the Apple job that pay $250k. America has the best higher education in the world. Why fight China over low wage manual labor jobs. China can have the dog scraps, I rather have America keep producing high skill job and sell service to the rest of the world. Look at IBM. They charge billions of dollars to companies all over the world for running data center for them. American workers are getting paid a very high salary tomanage the data centers in their own country.

          • KeyserSoze

            >>> Or get a better education and get the Apple job that pay $250k. <<<

            Wow, just wow. Can you say over-privileged and out-of-touch?

          • min009

            If the American dream is chase minimum wage jobs to return from.China, this country is doom.

          • KeyserSoze

            >>> If the American dream is chase minimum wage jobs to return from.China, this country is doom. <<<

            Then change the law so that minimum wage does not equate to living below poverty level. Change the minimum wage so that people can actually pay rent and live on such earnings.

          • min009

            So make America a socialism….

          • KeyserSoze

            >>> So make America a socialism…. <<<

            Sorry to break it to you, it's already been that way for quite a while.

          • Anon

            it is neither, or rather both. most countries are mixed.

          • Anon

            raise minimum wage-> higher cost for businesses-> lay off employees(unemployment and therefore worse than before the wage increase) OR increase in prices of the products/services which contributes to inflation which means the marginal increase in wages will not be a real increase in wages and yet put the workers who were laid off into a worse situation than before because of the inflation caused by minimum wage.

            if apple cuts off doing business with china which means the access to china’s market will disappear too. so the jobs which you naively think will go back to the US will instead move to vietnam/malaysia/indonesia/phillipines/india but without market access to the chinese market to sell to, which is of course has the largest middle class in the world. what happens is that jobs do not come back to the US but US companies loses the profits that could be made with market access to china.

            it is a lose-lose situation for both the US and china. both china and the US of course knows this, which is exactly why both will not go to war with each other. this is why increase in trade with each other actually prevents wars.

          • Anon

            lol he’s a trump supporter and doesnt even know foxconn is a taiwanese company. dont expect much from him

          • KeyserSoze

            Don’t give me that sht, you probably didn’t know Foxconn is Taiwanese either until you Googled it 5 seconds ago.

          • Anon

            everybody who visits these tech blogs for maybe just a few months knows this simple information. they are the freaking manufacturers for all the biggest brands in the world. it is quite common knowledge.

          • KeyserSoze

            Uh huh, right… says you.

          • Anon

            yup thats what i said. you heard it.

          • KeyserSoze

            I heard that you’re about as informed as any know-it-all-wannabe on the Internet, that’s what I heard.

          • Anon

            i dont know it all and never claimed so. but come on. not knowing foxconn is taiwanese is like not knowing sony is japanese

          • KeyserSoze

            It’s not that big a deal, knowing Foxconn is Taiwanese is not that impressive, quit going out of your way to try and impress everyone with your insignificant “knowledge”.

          • Anon

            it really isnt that impressive. i never said it was. in fact, i said most people know this. im not special. it’s common knowledge. you should stop trying to project your insecurity onto others. it just makes you look more funny.

          • KeyserSoze

            I’m not the one that keeps bringing up and making a big deal of it now was I? You’re obviously the one that’s desperately trying to get recognition for your little trivia.

          • Anon

            i said it once. but you HAD to reply with
            “Don’t give me that sht, you probably didn’t know Foxconn is Taiwanese either until you Googled it 5 seconds ago.”

            you know, just to feel better about yourself. there is nothing wrong with not knowing. you do now. it’s not a big deal. it’s you being aggressive to defend yourself with the above statement that exposes your insecurity.

          • KeyserSoze

            Of course there’s nothing wrong with not knowing something, else I would’ve lied and claimed I knew about Foxconn/Taiwan like you did. Hehe!

          • Anon

            once again projecting your insecurities. sad dude u are

          • KeyserSoze

            Once again, denying that you lied. Be a man and fess up.

          • Anon

            ha. the classic move of dragging another down the water so that you will not look so bad for yourself.
            sad. im still waiting to hear about your immensely deep understanding about minimum wage /s

          • Anon

            yeah you seem to turn awfully quiet when i explained how an increase in minimum wage would not help increase real wages.

          • Anon

            but of course, i wouldnt expect much from someone who thinks that raising minimum wages is a sure fire way to increase real wages.

          • balcobomber25

            Foxconn’s ten biggest factories, including the one that makes iPhone is in China.

        • balcobomber25

          Trump can’t change any import laws and can’t force companies to manufacture in the US, both of those are watercooler talk for Trump to get votes.

    • balcobomber25

      The US and China would never go to war they rely on each other too much economically.

      • KeyserSoze

        >>> The US and China would never go to war they rely on each other too much economically. <<<
        I hope that's the case, but you never know if the situation in the South China Sea might blow up into something bigger.

        • balcobomber25

          If China went to war with the US they would lose about $1 trillion in trade between the US and EU (who would support the US, as would several Chinese other top trade partners like India, Korea and Japan). It would absolutely decimate the Chinese economy. The South China sea is nothing but a glorified peeing contest.

          • KeyserSoze

            It’s kinda self-important to think that the US is the only major country China can do business with, no? They have 1.3 billion people, 4 times the US’s population, they can certainly sell to their own people. If that’s not enough they can sell to India’s population of 1.2 billion people, never mind the rest of the world.

          • Karly Johnston

            When you think about how much crap American consumers buy, it isn’t so hard to understand.

          • balcobomber25

            It’s not self important it is fact. The US is China’s top trade partner, they already sell stuff to all those other countries, the US is still their top trade partner.

      • Karly Johnston

        China does, they don’t buy much from the US though.

        • balcobomber25

          According to the US Government in 2015 the US exported $116 billion to China and imported around $481 billion. Keep in mind a lot of those products being imported into the US are being sold by US companies. Entire business in the US would completely collapse without China, and conversely entire Chinese regions would shut down without being able to export those products to the US and EU.

          • Karly Johnston

            The biggest thing we export to China is agriculture so the US would hardly collapse in a trade war where they benefit 4:1. They have rebuilt their country on the money of the American consumer and then we owe them money. It is time for a change in trade policy.

          • balcobomber25

            You do realize the number of business in the US that rely on Chinese made products? Entire business segments in the US would collapse without having Chinese goods. Next time your in a store pick up 10 random objects off the shelves and see how many are ‘Made in China’.

          • Karly Johnston

            You are talking about supply chains which are not monopolized by China. Those parts are made in other places including the US. When Trump is done slapping tariffs on China no one will want to source there.

          • balcobomber25

            The parts made in the US cost more, which is why many business turn to China. China holds pretty close to a monoloply in these segments:

            Air Conditioners – 80% are Made in China
            Smartphones/Computers/Tablets/Electronics – 70% are Made in China
            Footwear – 60% are Made in China
            Clothing – 47%

            Entire retail chains in the US like Walmart, Target and Best Buy would completely disappear without Chinese factories causing millions of jobs to be lost in the US. Not to mention anytime there is a federal deficit in the US, the government turns to China to bail them out. China owns more US debt than any other single entity. You are not actually naive enough to think Trump can do 90% of what he says? Trump can do very little without Congress. Congress is controlled by the CEO’s of big business, many of whom would lose millions without Chinese factories.

          • Karly Johnston

            Yes, but in a Trump world parts from China will cost more so things will no longer be made in China. Retail chains will simply find suppliers that are in Free Trade countries or in the US itself and sell. China is selling off its FX reserves including US Treasuries and yet the dollar still goes up. They have nothing to threaten us with but lobbyists and Trump is going to make them obsolete. China will either trade fair or go down in a pile of flames, it is their choice. We are simply going to do to them what they do to us.

          • balcobomber25

            Who are all these free trade countries that have production capacity of China? All of them combined don’t even come close. Not to mention your world and theory is built completely in fantasy, the US president doesn’t have the power to make things cost more that come from another country. Whether you like it or not the US and China are economic partners that need each other to survive. In your dream world who is the US government going to turn to when they need to borrow money?

          • Karly Johnston

            The US did just fine before we rebuilt China. We did it because we hoped they would open their economy. They did not, now they will pay the price. Keep saying what Trump can’t do just like the media, they thought he was a joke. Now he is the presumptive nominee and with an easy win over Hillary.

          • balcobomber25

            Your fantasy world is straight out of a Donald Trump pep rally. You have little clue of how the world or the American government actually operates. The US President is a figure head with veto power, he can’t do much of anything without the senate and house approving it first. There is a great article in the Federalist about it but here is an excerpt on it:

            “Beyond Trump’s erroneous premise, there’s also the little problem of actually imposing his plan under U.S. law and global trade rules. First and most obviously, the president can’t just slap a tariff on Chinese goods, regardless of whether he tells the Treasury Department to declare China a “currency manipulator” (a superficial action that, contrary to Trump’s online plan, isn’t simple and doesn’t permit the imposition of duties).”

            “The U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 8) gives Congress the sole authority to impose tariffs on foreign-made goods (i.e., “to regulate Commerce with foreign Nations”), so Trump would have to get congressional approval for his big China plan.”

            “Second, several U.S. laws govern the imposition of remedial tariffs on Chinese (and other) imports, and these laws have strict procedural, evidentiary, and substantive requirements that can’t just be ignored, even by the president.”

            Google the rest of article (can’t post links here).

      • ruudjo

        If I am well informed China owns a substantial amount of US-debts. They play more or less the role of private banker of Washington. So, the US and China are very dependent of each other.

        • balcobomber25

          At one point China owned $1.36 trillion of US debt, the most by any one entity. Anytime the federal government of the US faces a deficit they turn to China.

    • Enzo Francescoli

      It might be a good thing a war? Really? Take off your head from inside your asshole for a second please and try to think before write such stupidities…

      • KeyserSoze

        >> Take off your head from inside your asshole for a second please and try to think before write such stupidities… <<

        Learn to speak proper English moron or we'll bomb the sht out of your weak-ass illiterate penniless country with a remote controlled drone. And we'll do it with a few flick of our fingers on a video-game joystick while sitting at home in our comfy chair. How's that?

        • Enzo Francescoli

          How many languages are you able to speak besides English Mr.bomberman? What are you, 10-12 years old? You really believe all the stupid shit you are speaking off? You masturbate yourself while fantasizing about bombing countries or what?

          Funny enough i was not able to figure out who the hell could seriously support someone like Donald Trump for president, now I know…

          • KeyserSoze

            >> You really believe all the stupid shit you are speaking off? <<

            Let's put it this way, I highly enjoyed getting under your skin by pissing on your country, your heritage, and your shtty ability to speak English. By the way, I am very fluent in two languages and can read/write in a third language. What can a worthless retard like you do besides attempting to speak broken English with utter failure?

          • Enzo Francescoli

            “I highly enjoyed getting under your skin by pissing on your country, your heritage, and your shtty ability to speak English”

            I find that you don’t need much from this life to feel realized yourself )

            By the way, it was not you the one who didn’t even know that foxconn is a Taiwanese company? Now you speak fluently 2 languages and even 3… Wow mini-trump you really impress me now!

            It is not you the one crying and bragging about bombing China to get back to the US the low wage / shitty jobs that went there? Do you aspire to get one of those don’t you? Is that all you can aspire at?

            Poor bomberboy aka mini-trump you are so sweet )

          • KeyserSoze

            >> I find that you don’t need much from this life to feel realized yourself ) Is that all you can aspire at? <<

            I aspire to piss you foreigners off enough that you keep on entertaining us with your long rants in bad broken English, funny as hell.

          • Enzo Francescoli

            If my level of English is so bad for you may we switch our conversation to one of those 2-3 other languages that you are able to speak fluently?

          • KeyserSoze

            >> may we switch our conversation to one of those 2-3 other languages that you are able to speak fluently? <<

            Nope, English has better tech vocabulary than your lousy third-world language. You third-world guys don't have much of a tech vocabulary so you'd just use our English words anyway… sad.

          • Enzo Francescoli

            So are we talking tech? )

          • KeyserSoze

            What I wanna know is why are you so desperate to receive my attention and bask in my superior wit and intellect? Couldn’t you just spread your neediness to your fellow Mexi-Rican friends instead? I’m sure your bad English will fit right in with them.

          • Enzo Francescoli

            Its just you who prove to be desperate to say the last (English) word…

            You are wrong in your assumption that I’m from Mexico or from Puerto Rico but I guess it was easy to see this one come right? What will be your next bet? That i am a communist from the extinct USSR? C’mon you can do it better baby-trump )

          • KeyserSoze

            >> You are wrong in your assumption that I’m from Mexico or from Puerto Rico but I guess it was easy to see this one come right? <<

            It was easy to get you rabid and suicidal, warms my heart [big smile].

          • Enzo Francescoli

            Whatever it happens in the intimacy of your bedroom between that man and you it is only between that man and you )

            No need for you to explain baby…Its all right )

          • KeyserSoze

            >> Whatever it happens in the intimacy of your bedroom between that man and you it is only between that man and you ) No need for you to explain baby…Its all right ) <<

            Uhh… okaaaay… so talking real faggy in broken English with a thick Spanish accent is your new winning strategy now?

          • Enzo Francescoli

            Winning strategy? What am I supposed to win? Are you trying to win something with all this nonsense baby Trump?

            I just play with you a little bit ) I hope you don’t mind?

          • KeyserSoze

            Learn some English illiterate foreigner, and I just might give you a few pesos to clean my servant’s toilet with your tongue.

          • Enzo Francescoli

            Are you sure you can afford it baby trump?
            That’s the kind of job you are crying to get back to the US hoping that you will be lucky enough to get one for yourself don’t you? [Big smile]

            You are so pathetic baby Trump, but being me a generous man I’m gonna tell you something that you will like to know:
            Foxconn is a Taiwanese company not Chinese ) Did you know it? Awww no, you just look the pictures in here haha

          • KeyserSoze

            Ay no espeeka inglayas, bot Ay mayka fon au choo becaosa Ay yam moorrr clayverr den a ten chears old. Jajajajaja!

          • Enzo Francescoli

            I understand your anger honey but let me tell you something:
            What your father did to you in your childhood is WRONG and your mom sidening with him and covering all that shit was WRONG but it was not your…

            Remember we all love you baby trump )

    • RunningGreat

      That’s a very good point. USA and Korea are true allies as well as Japan. Anyone who sides with N.Korea is no good in my books.

      • KeyserSoze

        The wealthier China becomes the more powerful their military will be. They can build or buy more advanced fighter planes, stealth technology, aircraft carriers, nuclear/laser/space weapons, everything… just like USA. The more we contribute to their wealth, the more we help them beat us militarily in a war.

        Russia is poor and weaker than its former USSR self at its peak. China is richer, more stable and have a stronger economy. They might eventually supplant the US and become the #1 world power, that could be very dangerous for the western world.

    • voice of reason

      Ha! Enjoy your $3000 smartphone.

  • saksham

    if xiaomi and google make a nexus then it will make me beleive its good company

    • mellowyellow

      Normally that might be true, but that doesn’t really work with Chinese companies. Google allowed huawei to make a Nexus, but huawei is still a shit brand.

  • WhoaManWtF

    1080p with those specs, this thing is a beast! I would buy one quick if it was available to me and works on my providers.

  • finnss

    What you think about languages?

  • Jason Wilson

    I patiently await a US release.

    • Jonathan Kramer

      Me too.. this looks like an awesome phone for the money.. I wonder how they are with OS updates though..

      • balcobomber25

        MIUI is updated every Friday.

    • Roberto Tomás

      kinda worth doing that too .. gizhchina’s preorder page has the antenna bands listed .. and they in fact did not change with the adoption of the snapdragon 820.

  • Emir

    Where can i buy this ceramic Pro version for $350 ???
    Thanks

    • min009

      China with an invite.

      • balcobomber25

        Their is no invites for Xioami, that is OnePlus.

        • Emir

          Yea,but prices for MI5 are over 500$ for EU,or i am wrong???

          • balcobomber25

            Depends which model you get. The base model can be found for as low $389 (355 euro) online.

  • RunningGreat

    Nice phone. Just remember guys you get what you paid for.

    • balcobomber25

      And with Xiaomi you get an amazing device with excellent support that costs half as much.

  • Arn

    3000 mAh is enough??
    Xiaomi also made a mistake like samsung for s7..
    at least 3500, is a good catch

    • balcobomber25

      The difference is Xiaomi using a FHD display which isn’t nearly the resource hog the S7s QHD is.

    • EasyCare

      It is enough. It’s today’s standards and that alone doesn’t make it a mistake.

    • Karly Johnston

      This is only 5.1/1080p on 14nm. 3000 is plenty.

  • RunningGreat

    You get what you paid for. I don’t recall Mi5 having the worlds best mobile screen with Gear VR support. Free Gear VR btw. Dual Pixel Phase Detection auto focus, and will most likely have best photo image quality as well as video quality. S7 is done focusing before other phones even start to focus. Ip68 Certification for being practically water proof without flaps. Wireless charging. And touchwiz is much better than xiomis os. And Galaxy looks much better and holds better with an iPhone 6/+ plus sized battery in a 5.1 inch phone? Too much to list. Oh, and don’t forget Samsung Pay. I’ve seen Youtube videos of people using it at Walmart, Target, and other places that aren’t even considering accepting Apple Pay (or any other NFC payment). Samsung pay works literally on all magnetic readers. Other than ATM and gas stations. Why do you think it was adopted so much faster than Apple Pay? You literally dont need your wallet with Samsung Pay. Xiomi is good but if you want the best, Galaxy is where it’s at.

    • balcobomber25

      I lost you at “touchwhiz is much better than xioami os”. First Touchwiz is terrible, it is loaded with bloatware and full of bugs. Second there is no such thing as “Xiaomi OS”. It is called MIUI and ships with very little bloatware and is updated weekly.

      • KeyserSoze

        Get a clue people, Nova Launcher is better than any OEM skin. Arguing about whether these UI’s (TouchWiz, MIUI, Sense, etc.) are any good is pointless… they’re all bad, don’t use them.

        • balcobomber25

          Nova is okay but I prefer the stock look and feel of MIUI.

          • KeyserSoze

            Nope, I insist… it’s not just ok. Nova is powerful and unequivocally SUPERIOR! Learn to wield that power, live it.

          • balcobomber25

            When I do use a launcher it is one of my defaults (along with Yahoo Aviate and Smart Launcher) but right now I prefer the stock look of both MIUI and Flyme (Meizu).

      • RunningGreat

        You probably never used touchwiz. Either that or you’re just a kid in hs. Come to the real world, you’ll see how touchwiz’ productivity far outshines the competition.

        • balcobomber25

          You’re probably just a Samsung fanboy who have never used anything else. My wife has a Galaxy S6. Before that she had a Galaxy S4, S3 and Note 2. I have used Touchwiz enough to know how terrible it is. I have also used it enough to know how loaded with crapware it is, so many useless apps come preinstalled.

          • RunningGreat

            So you are still in hs…

          • balcobomber25

            If that makes you feel better about your love for a terrible ROM.

          • RunningGreat

            Go ahead and go with your chinese made phone if it makes you happy.

          • balcobomber25

            Considering most phones including some Samsung models and all iPhones, are made in China I will.

          • RunningGreat

            We sound so dumb right now…

          • balcobomber25

            Yes you do. Enjoy your Samsung phone which has a good chance of being made in China. If it isn’t assembled in China, it is assembled in Vietnam using mostly Chinese parts.

          • RunningGreat

            I didn’t rephrase my self because fighting on the internet is dumb. I could careless where a phone is made. It’s made to the exact spec Samsung intended and designed in Korea. What matters is what who designed it.

          • balcobomber25

            Apparently it does matter to you, you are the one that said “chinese made”.

          • RunningGreat

            Implication there being created, designed in china.

          • balcobomber25

            As opposed to being created and designed in Korea?

          • RunningGreat

            Based on my user experience yes, I much prefer something from korea, japan or usa than china.

          • balcobomber25

            So how many premium Chinese phones have you used? And there are no phones from the US.

          • RunningGreat

            China has a bad track record when it comes to reliability in general even to this day. I see it in the news / youtube everyday. And until they overcome that, I am not willing to buy their engineered products. Especially products I treasure and products that are tech related. And when it comes to phones, another big reason that’s keeping me from buying them? They just don’t have a compelling enough reason for me to get them over a Galaxy.

          • balcobomber25

            So to answer that question, you have never used a premium Chinese phone and are judging it based on generalities. Got it. I used a Kyocera phone once and it was horrible quality, guess all Korean phones are horrible quality.

          • RunningGreat

            Answer my simple question. Which pertains to this whole conversation. Why should I buy the chinese phone over the Galaxy? Good luck.

          • balcobomber25

            You are the one who said “based on your experience you prefer them over Chinese phones”. If you never used a Chinese phones you have no experience to make that assertion. Why should you use them over a Galaxy? 1. Price – You can save hundreds of dollars for a phone with the same specs. 2. Software – Xiaomi updates their ROM weekly, Samsung updates theirs sparingly. 3. Bloatware – Depending on your carrier your Galaxy phone can come with up to 85 preinstalled Apps. Xiaomi has about 12 (all of them core apps).

          • RunningGreat

            Now we’re getting somewhere. And I knew you were going to come up with some crappy reasons. How did i know? Because that’s all the phone offers.

            1 – You think best is cheap? And like millions of people, I have the money.
            2 – My 2 year old Note 4 is getting the Marshmellow update soon.
            3 – Love all the apps but if you don’t remove them…

            Now Let’s see what Samsungs “same spec” offers…

            1 – Best Mobile Screen in the World – (Brighter and more accurate colors) Very Important
            2 – Best Mobile Camera In the World with Dual Pixel AF- Extremely Important
            3 – Probably Fastest Internal SD speed – Very Important
            4 – Expendable Storage up to 2000 Gigabytes = 2 Terabytes – Important
            5 – IP68 Rating – Very Important
            6 – MST / NFC Credit Card Support – Extremely Important
            7 – Insane Battery Life – Very Important
            8 – Superior design without FAT Bezels.. Very Important
            9 – 720P 240 FPS – Important
            10 – Gear VR – Freakin love this thing on my Note 4. – Very Important

            Now having just a few of these points would make a phone a superb sell for me. But what does the Xiami offer from my list above? Nothing. But guess what, Samsung has all of that in there. That’s the power of worlds no1. RnD.

            The more you go on about how your chinese phone is better. The more respect you lose as an honest critique. I don’t mind people getting iphones or chinese phones. Go ahead, competition is good. I really don’t mind, But please don’t say it’s better when it’s not. Anyone who knows anything about phones can tell you Samsung is the one to beat.

          • balcobomber25

            “Best Mobile Camera in the world” “Best mobile screen in the world’ “Fastest internal SD speed” You have actual tests to back any of those statements up? If not you look like a typical Samsung fanboy. Please show us a camera shootout between the S7 and it’s competitors. I’ll sit here and wait for you to either back that statement up or admit you’re fanboy who has little clue what he is talking about.

          • RunningGreat

            The fact that I have to find these for you means you know jack about phones. (AA won’t let me post links so google the sites below)

            Professional Site: Display Mate – See their S7 Test (Current Best)
            Professional Site: Dxo Mark – See their S6 Edge Test (Current Best)
            Initial Camera Comparison with the 6S can be found at BGR (A very apple biased site)
            Internal Speed – Article right here on AA called Samsung switches to LPDDR4 and UFS 2.0

            I ask you again, what compelling reason do you have for me to get your chinese phone over the features I listed above? Nothing.

            And please keep ignoring most of the points I listed.

          • balcobomber25

            You’re post was summed up by “very biased Apple site”. Anything agree that Samsung is the greatest is false or biased in your opinion. This conversation is over. You are a diehard Samsung fanboy, and there is nothing wrong with that just admit it. Enjoy your overpriced phones with their terrible software, one day you will see the light.

          • RunningGreat

            Boy do you ever love moving goal posts and cherry picking. Sorry man. The Chinese have deep roots in cutting corners to save cost. That will always keep their smartphone from being the best on the planet. It was a blast talking with you as well.

          • balcobomber25

            “The Chinese have deep roots cutting corners” Boy do you ever love to generalize based on something you have very little knowledge of. There are Chinese companies that cut corners but Xiaomi isn’t even close to one of them. Xiaomi uses the same exact components that the other top brands do. They use Sharp/JDI displays, Sony cameras, LG batteries, Qualcomm SoC’s/Modems, Samsung RAM etc. Many of their smartphones already are the best on the planet. The Nexus 6P everyone is in love with these days is a Huawei phone. The Honor 5X which is being called the best midrange phone in the US, is a Huawei phone.

          • RunningGreat

            Kyocera is a japanese company. I understand you’re Chinese and you want your nations products to sell well but companies will have to earn it.

          • balcobomber25

            I am American but nice try. My love for Chinese phones comes from their incredible value compared to the traditional companies. Xiaomi and OnePlus give you everything that Samsung does at half the price, and with both they have better software support.

          • Robert

            Many clueless people use that argument without even understanding what it means, or Chinese trolls use it to confuse and trick gullible foreigners.

            There’s a critical difference between buying a US product that’s just assembled in China VS. buying this phone and directly funding companies from a country that wants to nuke us.

            Ultimately, it would also be better for all manufacturing to pull out of China, but that will take longer and is harder than a simple action like not buying this phone that people can easily do right now.

          • balcobomber25

            China has no interest in nuking the US lol, take your tinfoil hat off and come back to reality. What are all these US products though? How many US phones are there besides Apple?

          • Robert

            How naive of you. Leave the grown up talk to grown ups.

          • balcobomber25

            Says the guy who has little clue of the how the world works outside of his bubble.

          • Robert

            I know. My international automotive technology conglomerate is such a bubble that we never travel to China and know nothing about how the Chinese work. Pity me.

          • balcobomber25

            And my job with one of the largest technological firms in the world does plenty of business in China including with several Chinese phone manufacturers.

          • Robert

            Hey I’m not the one who questioned you, and if what you say about yourself is true, you would know that everything I said is true.

          • balcobomber25

            I know you are very very confused/wrong in your world views that’s what I know is true.

          • Robert

            That is the mantra of people living in bubbles.

          • balcobomber25

            Which you clearly live in. Outside of your Pro Samsung and Pro USA world nothing else exists.

          • Robert

            Who said I was pro Samsung or pro USA? I never even brought them up. Putting words in people’s mouths again I see. Sleazy.

          • balcobomber25

            It’s easy just go by your own comments. I know it’s tough for you with all this back tracking you are doing.

          • Robert

            Not only sleazy but doesn’t even know how to read. Find me one place where I said anything about Samsung or the USA. I’m a Blackberry fan and I’m from Canada. The only person backtracking and changing stories is you. It’s obvious by all the words you put in people’s mouth.

          • balcobomber25

            This is the mantra of people who know they are wrong, have no come back so instead try to deflect the conversation.

          • Robert

            Sleazy to the bone still. The only one deflecting is you. Pathetic.

          • balcobomber25

            “You probably never used touchwiz. Either that or you’re just a kid in hs. Come to the real world, you’ll see how touchwiz’ productivity far outshines the competition.”

            “There’s a critical difference between buying a US product that’s just assembled in China VS. buying this phone and directly funding companies from a country that wants to nuke us.”

            Caught in more lies. Keep trying, might want to read your own comments before posting. Because now you just look stupid.

          • Robert

            HAHAHAHAHAAHA. ILLITERATE. You just quoted the first comment from someone else. WHOOHAHAHAHA. Sleazy.

            So using the US as an example makes me pro US? HAHAHA.

            You’ve been grasping at straws this entire time kid. Caught in more lies again.

            In your own immortal words, “now you just look stupid.”

          • balcobomber25

            A guy from Canada who used “us” when talking about the US. Keep trying.

          • Robert

            I never knew that Canada and the US are allies. Illiterate again. Lying again. Ignoring getting caught in a lie again. Looking stupid again.

          • balcobomber25

            The US has lots of Allies, India is an ally. Does that mean India can say “us” when talking about the US as well?

          • Robert

            I never knew India was just in the US’s backyard. Grasping at straws again. Looking stupid again.

          • balcobomber25

            Yes you do keep grasping at straws after being caught in so many lies you can’t even keep them all straight.

          • Robert

            WHOOAHAHAH. Even shameless to the point of making bald faced lies after getting caught so many times.

          • voice of reason

            Take it easy on China wanting to nuke us lol. China and US have a pretty good relationship on which china profits tonnes, why they would want to jeopardize that by nuking the US and radiating the atmosphere and kill millions of chinese expats in the process is beyond me. China is entering its move to a 1st world country. You cant just look accross the ocean and hate them cuz they are late to the party, they are changing and they will overtake america. If you really made all your purchases from you high horse of moral ignorance and bias you wouldnt drink any good coffee, eat much fruit, or drive a decent well priced car. You cant expect a country whos culture is so different and whos economy is so different and changing to mirror the states way of doing things… which i would argue is a very poor way to do things as well.

          • Robert

            You might be surprised to know that the Chinese will not hesitate to consider Chinese expats as expendable if it furthers their motherland’s interests of replacing the US as the sole superpower. The Chinese killed millions of their own before and still do today in the thousands every year. You need to understand Chinese culture in order to know what they are willing to do.

            Note that I didn’t say the Chinese will drop a nuclear bomb if they don’t have to. But you better believe that they would if it ever reached a point to benefit them. I’m not concerned about the now, where it’s still beneficial for China to refrain from a full scale military attack. I’m concerned about the future, and China surely thinks the same way too. That explains why the Chinese have militarized the South China Sea, declared ADIZ areas, and ramped up buying weapons from Russia or hacking the West for military secrets.

            It’s not relevant if China does not nuke someone right now. The only vital fact to keep in mind is that China HAS the desire to make a nuclear strike against the US or its allies if they had a chance.

            You’ll be pleased to know I’ve learned to not sit on a high horse. That lesson comes from spending years traveling all around the world, including China. Traveling opens your eyes to reality. I do business in China for 1/4th of the year, and travel back to Toronto. This has been going on for almost 10 years already. So believe me, you’re preaching to someone who already knows how the world works.

            I never said China should mirror the way the states do things. China can do whatever they want. China can continue to steal and copy everything under the sun. China can continue to militarize the South China Sea. China can continue to wage economic warfare. China can continue to hack our businesses and military branches.

            I’m only saying that whatever they choose to do, they will face the consequences of their choices and we will also do what we need to do protect ourselves like any rational person would.

          • voice of reason

            Chinese manufacturers dont copy android anymore then iphone copies android. There is tonnes of chinese r&d done in china for these phones and they are not “knock offs” in fact my experience with oppo and xiaomi is that they are very unique, but ultimately not the experience i am looking for and am willing to pay for a top notch experience. Some of these “knock off” chinese companies are developing their own cpu and gpus from scratch. Competition is good for everyone, customers especially. And like every market the worthy products will survive, these companys should be sending a message to the others. And also, it saddens me to know a fellow torontonian has such a xenophobic view point of our asian friends. The family and business ties between Canada and china are vast. And if that country ever wanted to take over it could do it purely economically and could have long ago. If theres ever a sino-amercan war i can predict with some certainty that the US would be the aggressor not china.

          • Robert

            Sorry but you don’t seem to know much about the world as it really is.

            The Chinese still copy Apple and Android. Chinese phones look like Frankenstein mashups of both. China has no real R&D. They wait for others to lay down the groundwork and then commit industrial espionage, buy out the technology, or force companies to give up the proprietary technology in exchange for market entry into China. The cpu and gpu architectures are stolen from or based on other works. Many people are not aware that if a company wants to sell its products in China, they are forced by the Communist government to partner with a Chinese counterpart so that easier spying access to trade secrets are made available, or trade secrets are just bluntly demanded of, or frivolous billion dollar fines are imposed so that the funds can be later used for further industrial espionage efforts elsewhere.

            People like to thoughtlessly repeat mantras without understanding the whole picture. Competition is good. But not too much competition or toxic competition. China is both. Competition more or less means honest competition. That means each player trying their best to make their own way in the market with their own products. There will always be dirty players in business, but developed and civilized countries are bound by laws and rules most of the time so such behavior does not permeate the entire business culture.

            China however does not care about laws or ethics. China’s entire developing economy is based on stolen or copied intellectual property. China is playing outside of the rules that other players are bound to. China is not trying to make their own way in the market with their own products. Instead, the Chinese are trying to pass off other players’ work as their own and then flooding the market with Chinese replicas or variations.

            Guess who will win this “competition?” It’s not the player who has the worthy product like in a normal competition. It’s the criminal country that has 1.4 billion of its own people to sell to so that it sure as hell doesn’t need to succeed anywhere else in the world in order to earn billions of dollars. Billions of dollars that the Chinese will then eventually use to go back and take over those parts of the world that they initially could not win in under fair competition.

            The Chinese are very sly. The Chinese know nobody in the developed world will buy Chinese brands, so the Chinese use all the money they earned from stealing and counterfeiting to eventually buy out established Western brands like IBM, Motorola, AMC, Volvo, or Fiskar so that potential customers are not aware of who they are really giving their money to.

            Nobody in the world can do this because nobody has the potent triple combination of the population size China has, the manufacturing presence all given to them by foreigners like China has, and a deep culture that encourages stealing the Chinese have.

            I don’t have a xenophobic view point. I have a common sense view point. I welcome any foreigner as long as they are not threatening our way of life. You calling me “xenophobic” is like calling me an “inhospitable neighbor” for attacking a murderous criminal intruding into my home. I am more than welcome to host anyone from anywhere in my house as long as they are not trying to rape me, steal from me, take over my house, copy my work, try to brainwash my children that the intruder is a “good” guy, plant bugs in my house to eavesdrop, set up camp in my front lawn and slowly try to creep towards my door, or threaten me with a gun.

            Canada and China do have economic ties, but it is not a willing one because Canadians know the true nature of the Chinese. Don’t be fooled by the public “smiles” and “friendly” platitudes in front of the cameras when meeting with Chinese diplomats. That is why we are trying to protect ourselves from too much Chinese meddling into our economy, politics, and national security despite trying to balance a healthy trade relation.

            You are half correct. China has ALREADY taken over economically because the US gave the Chinese every technology they needed.

            You are incorrect about something else. China has ALREADY taken the first shot, and it’s not even a bullet from a gun. But that may change, because all the economic and cyber warfare that China has waged against us and the US is leading towards a military conflict.

            Guess who instigated that? China. China was the one to militarize the South China Sea first, while lying for years that it was for scientific research. So let me help you stop wasting your time trying to “predict” the future. It’s already happened.

          • voice of reason

            Wooooow.. thats super racist.
            I have very good chinese friends and even chinese in the family, all of which have very strong ties to china and love being canadian. And i love china. Go peddle you xenophobic vitriolic nonsense elsewhere. If it wasnt for the innovative design and manufacturing going on in asia the peak of technology would still be the walkman, and the american co. Apple couldnt exist and the technology for the iphone wouldnt exist right now. Are there human rights issues there? Yes, and its terrible. But its not any worse then a capitalistic society that lets neighborhoods dissolve into violence and chaos, allows the populous to arm itself and views weapons as entertainment and will let citizens outright suffer and die because they cant pay for medical help or destroy their family economically and emotionally to try to simply survive an illness. Im not saying your american, im just saying you should get off your high horse cuz one day you could be wishing that you lived in china, and no country or people is superior to a reasonable person… except for maybe the sneaky ignorant racist, hes definitely not as good as the rest of the world

          • Robert

            You didn’t refute anything I said. The only thing you did was take the easy way out and pull the racist card when it obviously doesn’t apply. Only the angry and uneducated who don’t know how to think for themselves do that.

            Here’s some advice. Get an education first. A good one. Then do business with the Chinese and learn their culture. Then you won’t be spewing ignorance from your high horse because that’s exactly where YOU, not me, are standing on pulling the race card. Me? I’m down low in the trenches dealing with reality.

            I already proved to you I’m not xenophobic, but you ignored that. You also keep ignoring the simple fact that the entire manufacturing presence in China was GIVEN to them by the West so that we could establish a cheap labor supply.

            I have Chinese friends and family members too and the honest ones would support everything I said. I don’t care if you have Chinese friends or family members because that doesn’t change the truth of what I said and the reality that you obviously don’t know anything factual about China except what you want to believe in your fantasy world.

            That makes me believe you’re either ignorant, in which case I forgive you, or you’re actually a Chinese nationalist or troll who’s trying to silence me, in which case take your butt hurt elsewhere.

          • voice of reason

            Also “how dare china not play by the laws of the western world! Dont they know white ppl are always right” is pretty whiny. Why should china do things our way? They got a billion people, a huge economy and they dont give a crap about the US and its laws. Why should it. US doesnt give a crap about the rest of the world and thinks it can dictate how it should be for everyone, and those days are coming to an end slowely, and china never cared. Why should they. The only way they would “nuke” the US is if the US initiated it. If the US is that dumb, well then i guess they have ot coming… also i dont think any government is dumb enough to even use a nuke, even the US couldnt get away with dropping another.. even NK isnt insane enough and theyve been ruled by a family of nuts for over 50 yrs.

          • Robert

            You don’t know how to read very well do you?

            The fact that you ignore what I say and keep crying about this and that despite having given you an answer already makes YOU the big fat whiner.

            I already answered you here –> “I never said China should mirror the way the states do things. China can do whatever they want. China can continue to steal and copy everything under the sun. China can continue to militarize the South China Sea. China can continue to wage economic warfare. China can continue to establish counter systems like the AIIB. China can continue to hack our businesses and military branches. China can continue to align itself with enemies of the West.

            I’m only saying that whatever they choose to do, they will face the consequences of their choices and we will also do what we need to do protect ourselves like any rational person would.”

            and here –> “Note that I didn’t say the Chinese will drop a nuclear bomb if they don’t have to. But you better believe that they would if it ever reached a point to benefit them. I’m not concerned about the now, where it’s still beneficial for China to refrain from a full scale military attack.

            I’m concerned about the future, and lo and behold it seems I’m not the only one. Even China thinks the same. That explains why the Chinese have militarized the South China Sea, declared ADIZ areas, and ramped up buying weapons from Russia or hacking the West for military secrets.

            It’s not relevant if China does not nuke someone right now. The only vital fact to keep in mind is that China HAS the desire to make a nuclear strike against the US or its allies if they had a chance.”

            Take your whine and cheese somewhere else.

      • YOTOPRULES .

        whats wrong with touchwiz?

        • balcobomber25

          It’s bloated and full of bugs.

          • voice of reason

            Touchwiz wasnt great, and its still not perfect but its not at all terrible, and it is much smoother and polished than miui. Samsungs touchwiz pioneered more then a few well liked android os upgrades. My s7 is less laggy (re: has never lagged) then my wifes g4 and i know several ppl who find ios9 laggy and force close happy. But ultimately in the android universe ALWAYS buy hardware, the OS can easily be changed to taste or wholesale to another distro you like. If your avoiding samsung cuz of touchwiz alone then you are missing out on a worldclass device for no reason.

          • balcobomber25

            I avoid Samsung for three main reasons: Touchwhiz, Support and Price. I will never personally spend that much money on a phone when I can get one from Xiaomi, OnePlus, Meizu, LeTV and several others with the same exact hardware and better software for much less.

            But my wife does like Samsung and she has a new S7. Touchwiz has improved but it is still a bloated mess and nowhere close to the refinement of Flyme, MIUI or CM. The support is also no where close. Xiaomi updates MIUI every week, Touchwiz is lucky to be updated three times over its life.

    • EasyCare

      This one’s offered at HALF THE PRICE, a Samsung for that price would get you an awful midranger which is nothing compared to this anyway.

      • RunningGreat

        I don’t care much about halfprice. I want the best and it’s not Xiaomi

  • Albert Altman

    I will be getting the maximum pro version as soon as it is released to the EU market.

  • Falenone

    No sd card slot, you can have 5D diamond display, still wouldn’t want it

    • Akira Tabuchi Yagui

      who need a SD card with 128GB… I have 32GB and I have like 10GB left… Also an 64GB SD card that is empty. I don’t even know why I purchased such a SD card. I was thinking that I’ll full that with 4K video, but I don’t…

      • Falenone

        Because high res music. And no, I don’t want Spotify nor any equivalent of it

        • EasyCare

          How high? There’s dedicated audio player for it anyway.

        • Akira Tabuchi Yagui

          I have a Fiio for that… and also, all the music in my phone is in FLAC and there is no way to have over 10GB of music unless I upload all my library… With 10 albums I’m more than good to go.

          With the DAC most of the phones have, there is almost no difference in sound quality between a FLAC and a 320kbps MP3

          • voice of reason

            Wut.. i have over a 100gb of music on my phone in flac. Sdcard is a huge deal. And i use a fiio e18. I went without an sdcard in my phone once.. never again. Thank god the s7 brought it back. And no difference between 320 mp3 and flac?! Dude sell your fiio, and take the cash cuz youre either deaf and running some garbage iem/cans.

  • RiTCHiE

    #RiP ShitSung!

    • YOTOPRULES .

      whats wrong with samsung? they are just overpriced, but thats it

  • bob

    yes making waves in india,after the drama they pulled with redmi note 3,i am sure most of the people accepted the fact they won’t see mi5 in India until May,they will release it just before one plus 3 is launched in june

  • Kody

    Nice, some feature missing that I want but it’s certainly peaked my interest.

  • Andre Senge

    Not bad but I’ll wait for the Huawei P9, they lied about the dimensions of this phone which they said was gonna be 5.1mm or somewhere around there, but 7.3mm? I’m looking for a slim ass phone but with also a tleast a 3000MAH battery.

    • Akira Tabuchi Yagui

      there is no way to have a 5 inch display phone of 5.1mm thick with 3kmAh battery… the only way if they put big vessels or a bigger display…

    • Enzo Francescoli

      Yeah man I hear you! WTF???? They said it would be around 5 mm and it is 7 mm (millimeters) this is completely unacceptable!!! 2 millimeters more oh my god! This is what I call a deal breaker )))) Evil chinese…

      • YOTOPRULES .

        shut up who cares, thin phones are unconfortable to hole-

  • Peter Steiner

    Hopefully they release kernel source codes because they are making killer phones for very good prices, but the developer community is getting the bird. I want official CM support and such.

  • Karly Johnston

    [email protected] = no lag

  • Roberto Tomás

    The prices I am reading are 1999-2299-2699 — about $300, $350, $400 dollars.

    I keep seeing numbers that are not in yuan at sites like this one and gizchina where they say $260 .. but that invokes a yuan exchange rate from at least 6 months ago.

  • aaloo

    man, i don’t buy android phones, but keep up with technology. This year android crop is giving each other some real strong competition. this xiaomi phone supposedly has LTE bands for europe and north america as well. If i was in the market for an android phone, just don’t know why I would spend twice the money for the same hardware and software.

    by the way, i just don’t understand why every single video from MWC just shows pull down menus and scrolling between screens. its as if lack of lag is the feature that needs to be shown on android phones. compare that to videos coming out with the iPhone launch. they actually show you the new features from the show floor, like 3D touch and live photos this time around. apart from faster hardware, there hasn’t been any real innovation this year from android manufacturers (exception being the modular LG G5)

  • Neil Sugarbush

    Hey AA- your webpage is messed up. I’m using chrome and when you scroll down the page the upper AA slide down logo rolls up, but then later slides back down causing the area of the page I’m viewing to jump back up. Very annoying.

  • Neil Sugarbush

    As for the Xiaomi- just another non Nexus phone to never, ever get an update. However I guess at the $250 price point, you can treat them as disposable. BTW Samsung/ATT, my bet is still on you can’t get your MM OTA update to my ATT S6 phone before Android N is released. You’re still choking. No excuses.

  • kiwiruss

    Nice phone and packed with features. Might get me to switch back from my Iphone 6 Plus without loosing any $$$.

    • YOTOPRULES .

      Go for it! This phone is WAY better than the iPhone

  • jay

    It depends all what people like. I am not a heavy gamer and seeing a lot good company’s lower there prices on midrange phones is pretty good. Four years ago a 1$ phone on contract was a piece of s$&@ now you can buy a Samsung phone and have a device that works for the average users. For me regular phones with a nice screen works for me.

  • Ankit Kabeer

    Please do a full Xiaomi Mi5 review and also a detailed camera review. Waiting for a good xiaomi mi5 review for a long time

  • Ravi Kharat

    Does it have all the sensors, lIke we see in Nexus phones? Not just the basic ones.

  • Tom Blessing

    Is it worth paying $543 for this to be shipped to Australia from the Xiaomi website or should I pay $600 for a Galaxy S6? I kinda want to pay $500 or less for a phone like either of these but I am not having so much luck with the Australian market.