Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 810 MDP smartphone and tablet give us a glimpse of the future

by: Rob TriggsNovember 24, 2014
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Snapdragon Mobile Development Platform Smartphone

Qualcomm’s new Snapdragon 810 Mobile Development Platform smartphone and tablet are now available for purchase, each equipped with some of the best mobile technology currently available. Priced at $799 and $999 respectively, these developer oriented devices aren’t cheap. Fortunately, staring in quiet awe is free of charge.

The Snapdragon 810 developer smartphone is a 6.2-inch behemoth, packing a 2560×1600 (490ppi) display. It also comes with 4GB of LP-DDR4 RAM, a 3020mAh battery, 13MP OIS and dual flash rear camera, 4MP front facing camera capable of 1080p 120fps recording, QuickCharge 2.0 technology, and a fingerprint reader on the back. The handset also features a huge array of sensors, 8 microphones, a micro HDMI slot that supports 4K displays, USB 3.0 support, and an ultrasound emitter. Plenty of toys for developers to play around with.

Qualcomm’s latest reference tablet is an equally lavish affair. It features a 10.1-inch UHD 4K (3840×2160) 16:9 display, 4GB of LP-DDR4 RAM, the same camera setup as the smartphone, and a decent sized 7560mAh battery. The tablet also features a similar range of sensors, but also comes with dual 3D IR gesture cameras and front facing stereo speakers.

Snapdragon Mobile Development Platform Tablet

The major point of these developer devices is, of course, the Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 SoC inside. The Snapdragon 810 is a 64-bit octo-core chip that features four ARM Cortex-A57s and four Cortex-A53. The chip offers superior performance and energy efficiency compared to the last generation of ARM CPU designs. The 810 also contains the improved Adreno 430 GPU, which boasts 30 percent more performance than the Snapdragon 805’s Adreno 420, as well as features such as 4K display support.

While Qualcomm’s reference devices contain a good many features that will likely never make their way to consumer flagships, Qualcomm has offered some insight as to what we can expect from next year’s high-end smartphones and tablets. Faster processors are a given, but faster memory types, new USB and Bluetooth standards, and even higher resolution displays could also become the norm in 2015.

If you’re a developer, or simply have some spare cash to spend, the Mobile Development Platform smartphone and tablet can be ordered directly from Qualcomm. Shipments are scheduled for mid-December.

  • Marc Perrusquia

    Daily Driver material?

    • Not without a cellular chip you won’t. Unless your around WI-FI 24/7

  • Err0xx

    Those prices aren’t that bad for what you’re getting. I mean dang, that’s a 4k display tablet for a grand. The phone is hot for the cost as well. Never really liked dev devices but those aren’t bad.

  • Haseeb

    Wow! I hope the S6, Z4, G4 and M9 come with even better features!

    • guest qwe

      Such as?

      • Protoss

        Eggs cooker?

        • ch_anon

          And coffee heaters…

          • David Onter

            What about a toaster? I want a toast

  • Moku

    Damn, if 6 inches becomes the new norm, lots of people are gonna have a problem here.

    • Captain Canada

      That’s true but that also means manufacturers could begin refocusing on the 4.5 to 4.8 inch sizes like Sony has nailed with the Z3C. I’m glad 2015 is my upgrade year. Reversible usb, possibly a push for more waterproofing and finger print authentication. The even better battery life that the 810 brings, hopefully better camera quality too. I’m excited, I hope the Z4C is everything I hope it will be because I have my sights set on it.

    • guest qwe

      It’ll be 52″and about 6″ with tight bezels, only cheap junk will be smaller.

    • ch_anon

      Any phone that launches with these specs but a smaller screen, say >5.2 inches, will be the phone to buy. Probably sony xperia z5 compact…

      • emil2015

        You probably mean “<5.2 inches" lol

    • VAVA Mk2

      From what I have been told, women consider 6″ average.

      • David Onter

        I see what you did there ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

      • Moku

        Hahahah! Saw that one coming! xD

        • Julio Valdez

          That’s what she said xD

      • ch_anon

        No, they like 5.95″.

        • VAVA Mk2

          Maybe if we are talking about Asian women

          • ch_anon

            Or Google Fanboys

        • Marc Perrusquia

          5.96

          • mickel

            5.69

          • Marc Perrusquia

            I knew someone would say that.

      • MasterMuffin

        Being average there is actually good!

        Why are we talking about this :D

  • I hope the Xperia Z4 will have the 810

    • Captain jack

      I guess if it’s released in the second half of the year, then it’s gonna have 810..

    • David Onter

      It won’t. The 810 will be available in the second half of the year and the Z4 in the first. 1-2 months difference :/

    • Jee

      Why wait for the Z4 when you can wait for the Z5?

      Why wait for the Z5 when you can wait for the Z6?
      Why wait for the Z6 when you can wait for the Z7?
      Why wait for the Z7 when you can wait for the Z8?

      I think you get my point.

  • Captain jack

    Here the developer smartphone has a 6.2 inch screen… What does that indicate about future..???
    That now the screens of future phones is going to be bigger than 6 inches…
    This norm isn’t good at all

    • The BIG POTATO..

      Actually it is a marketing technique to show the capabilities of new Soc.

      • Captain jack

        I know it’s a marketing technique but still calling a 6.2 inch screen device a phone….

    • bob

      it means 810 is too hot and inefficient for a normal sized phone

      • Captain jack

        Snapdragon processors are know for efficiency so can’t say that…

        • bob

          as opposed to what?

          • Captain jack

            I don’t know…

  • Sharath

    OMG 4GB RAM with that processor is gonna be suuuuuuppper faaaaasttt!!!!

    • Captain jack

      I hope 4k screen doesn’t have any major effect on its performance…

    • Syukri Lajin

      4GB of DDR4 ram. The latest and the best RAM! 4 times the amount of RAM inside the iphone 6, and yet it’s still cheaper.

      • hung solo

        You can put cummins diesal engine in this thing but if the os is a pos whats the difference?

        • Syukri Lajin

          I can say a thousand word but if your brain is a POS, what’s the difference?

          • Hung Solo

            Lol Words to live by. Try it sometime!

        • guest qwe

          True, but it won’t have iOS.

      • abdallahqtaish

        my pc is 4gb but ddr3 ! XD

        whatsup technology ! :D

      • Marc Perrusquia

        It’s lpddr4

    • Xavier_NYC

      Depends on Software Optimization. Specs mean nothing if the software isn’t optimized to take advantage of it. Ala TouchWiz.. (I have a Note 4)

      • guest qwe

        So true, so very true!

      • Gary Demirdjian

        I think you meant:
        “Depends on Software Optimization. Specs mean nothing if the software isn’t optimized to take advantage of it. Ala Nexus 6* and its crippling encryption overkill..”

        *edited for more current example, the touchwiz thing is sooo 2012

        • Xavier_NYC

          That’s a great example as well but I’m sure that will be fixed with a software update. TouchWiz may be 2012 but it’s still an issue. Samsung has always had great if not the best hardware but it’s always hindered by TouchWiz. There’s no reason any phone should lag with the current hardware available.

          • Gary Demirdjian

            For the record I think I had the NB or NC1 baseband on my Galaxy S4 a few months ago, stock Samsung KitKat 4.4.3 Touchwized out.

            I was able to make that sucker scream with speed by removing bloat(of course), assorted other crap apps and features I’d never use or new wouldn’t work right(Allcast, screen mirror, nearby devices, Assistant menu), ditched Knox, froze a bunch of other stuff just in case..

            My point being is that if you’re really a tech pimp(aka sorta know what you’re doing and have the guts to experiment) you can even make that Touchwiz ho you’re b*$h. It is possible, even I was surprised at how fast I had that thing going WITH Touchwiz. And that’s with my old S4, I wouldn’t doubt that you can probably really light some ish up with say an S5 or totally freak Note 4’s Touchwiz with all those sweet specs.

          • Xavier_NYC

            My point is you shouldn’t have to do that a phone that has top notch specs. Of course I know how to root and make my phone epic like I did with my LG G2 but I shouldn’t have to do that. It’s as simple as that plus Root is not available for my device yet. Do you know who AT&T aka bootloader lockers aka locked sims aka kill devices before they get to you. Also I’ve disable bloat, killed off unnecessary sync services, killed bloat for AT&T and Samsung. Disable S voice

          • Gary Demirdjian

            Granted the combination of AT&T + Samsung/Touchwiz definitely provides a tough challenge as to increasing the performance from when it came out the box. But you can’t deny, whether you’re dealing with ATSung or any other maker/carrier, THAT is precisely the reason we even bother with the little green robot dude and not the shiney apple.

            And sorry for having to do this again, Xavier but I’m gonna have to pull my Nexus/Lollipop card out(again)and easily apply your first line..’you shouldn’t have to do that has top notch specs’ to Nexpop because supposedly a Nexus shouldn’t be fudged with too much, it’s supposed to be enjoyed and appreciated in it’s natural vanilla form. But, as we know between Google, Motorola, and sure throw, in AT&T because of their mutation- they’ve turned what could have been something halfway decent into the biggest clusterf* ..probably of all tech-time.

            I’m reading how actual Nexus diehards are so done with it all that, yes suddenly letters like iOS come into play as a valid option. That’s shocking. I mean I think we’re witnessing something right now along the lines of a mass exodus that is really unparalleled in the history of technology. But I think it’s so big and we’re still in the early stages of it that we won’t really know how epically disastrous the combination of the Nexus 9/6-Lollipop rollout truly is until we see the hard numbers next year and heads start to roll, you know like apples. I couldn’t resist, I’m done now. O_o

      • Jee

        Touchwiz can even make a supercomputer lag. Feature, they say.

      • CyBrix_21

        I also have Note 4. But I don’t know what you’re talking about lack of optimization on TW.

        • Xavier_NYC

          Lets be serious here, fandom aside, you don’t see any lag whatsoever and everything is 100% smooth? Even when using the recent app cards?

          • CyBrix_21

            Fortunately, yes.

          • Xavier_NYC

            You must one in a billion because every reviewer I’ve watched said there was lag. I have the device and I use the shit out of it and there’s always a little lag but not enough to make me hate the phone.. Still consider it the best phone I’ve ever had and I’ve had at least 4 different one’s in the past 2 years

          • CyBrix_21

            It will lag if you will do intensive tasks, but with simple multitasking, it passed with flying colors.

            No one can change the fact that it runs the way computers run, so I will not say that I will not experience lag soon.

            What I am trying to say is that it is not about lack of software optimization.

            Do you get my point? It is not about lack of software optimization.

            Imagine if you do very intensive task with Nexus 6, it will do the same because it is not TouchWiz that makes it lag.

    • findinghomer

      Although it will likely be fast, RAM capacity doesn’t determine processing speed. All this means , is it will be able to handle more processes without hiccups. But I really doubt ANYONE will be putting that kind of usage load on their daily driver anyway

      • Syukri Lajin

        No ram capacity doesnt’t mean that it will be faster, but 4gb of ddr4 is certainly faster than 1gb of ddr3. This is a developer phone, it was designed to bleeding edge. People dont buy developer phone for daily use, but the fact that they are selling it cheaper than a consumer grade phone such as the iphone 6 does tell you how much apple is ripping off their customer

    • Netwern

      Do you know that most of the mobile apps does not even utilize quad-core? For example the world’s most popular mobile game Clash of Clans. Go grab System Monitor and check it out yourself. Seeing is believing.

      • David Onter

        But this will change in the next months/year. Just like 64bit-Apps becoming more and more common :)

        • tiagoSi

          ???

          What app going to get benefit for a quad-core? A mobile one? None…

    • Karly Johnston

      RAM doesn’t speed up the device unless you are hitting a bottleneck. Being DDR4 is the thing here…

  • Syukri Lajin

    It’s amazing that a developer phone with a huge list of extra sensors and features that can’t be find in a typical phone is cheaper than the iphone 6 plus which have half the specs of this phone. Lol

    • systemupdate

      the question is, who can get their hands on a unit?

    • Rickrau5

      And most android phones as well. Quit being a fanboy and grow up.

      • Your mom

        Read… is cheaper than the iphone 6 plus. CHEAPER. Most android phones are cheaper than 799$.

        • Marc Perrusquia

          Flagships at launch straddle that price point

        • Rickrau5

          That’s odd because last I checked both iPhone 6+ and Note 4 retail on tmob for $749, jokes on your mom buddy

          • Jee

            I guess you can’t read because he said ****MOST**** android phones are cheaper than $799…. which is a true statement.

          • Rickrau5

            and where did I state otherwise? I guess you cant comprehend whats going on here. OP was referring to value/features of iPhone 6+ vs value/features of dev-phone. Whatever your opinion is, 749 (iPhone/note 4) < 799 dev phone. Even though OP is wrong, you can make a sold argument that the value added for this dev-phone negates the $50 difference. Value vs Cost. It holds true for iPhones and most Android phones as well. That was my point.

          • Rage1422

            “jokes on your mom” and you’re telling people to grow up.

          • Rickrau5

            Uhh, his user name is “your mom” you know. Good job Einstein

  • carol argo

    I hate entertainment phone (Facebook phone)when do we get the gamer version?they intentionally spec these to make them classic mmo unfriendly

    • Richard Gao

      What are you on about?

  • Devon McFarlane

    Specs don’t excite me any more. I want to see less of the details and more of the smart device. Less tabbed scolling menu’s of features and more snappy intuitive genius.

    Does anyone remember just before the PS2 came out Sony made a development update that showed how to really push the hardware so the devs could get more out of the platform. I think this is where android needs to focus because these specs and ram use goes up every year but latency doesn’t reduce at the same rate.

    Just sayin

    • guest qwe

      I would like to see gestures and pie control become the norm, and drop the buttons.

    • Hung Solo

      Well since you were smart enough not to put the word genius in the same paragraph as android, ill tell you a little secret. There’s this little company out of California that makes a smartphone exactly as ypu describe they”re named after a fruit I think its macintosh LLC or something. Look’em up

      • Devon McFarlane

        I think you’re talking about the company that supply pretty objects for the middle classes with pearly white teeth and a problem with self confidence.

        You’ve got me wrong. I want a smart phone to work with the other computing i have in my life. I don’t want to have to change every computing device i use in to a restrictive expensive sand pit.
        I’d rather spend that extra cost on good food and wine. life’s too short to be spent fanboying any multi billion corporate business for shits and giggles.

  • The BIG POTATO..

    All specs on paper looks freaking awesome but wait ONLY 3000MAH BATTERY for a 6.2 inch qhd display.
    But, can’t say anything…. Maybe Soc is very power efficient.

    • Netwern

      it’s not qHD display, it’s UHD display

      • ch_anon

        I think it’s QHD, not UHD.

      • Protoss

        WXGA display on the smartphone, and UHD on the tablet

      • The BIG POTATO..

        Thanks …to correct me.

  • Albert U.

    Throw in a Wacom digitizer along with a stylus and I’m buying!

  • ajftl250

    are this MDP qualcomm phones usable with GSM networks?
    i check their specs and no info about lte bands or even 3g or this is just wifi?

    • Someone in the comments above said no Mobile Cell chip inside after they emailed them. So I’m guessing Wi-Fi only. Not sure how a developer can full test with missing hardware components.

  • ajftl250

    i emailed them and nope no modem in MDP

    • Scott Ricketts

      Well shiat.

  • David Onter

    I want benchmarks and I want them now :D

    • Protoss

      30% more performance, here you go

      • Guest

        Aaawesoooome! :D

      • william harrison

        Yeah just glamour words, only interested in real world performance.

  • chanman

    Drooling

  • Sag

    I guess these devices have less optimized software compared to consumer level devices.

  • wat

    Bought a Note Pro 12.2 and I would never consider a 10 inch tablet again. Just needs to be a bit lighter, maybe 2mm thinner and it would be perfect.

    • Try out the Nexus 9 and see if that’s up your Alley. I heard it’s really lite.

      • guest qwe

        that would be much to small for wat. . . he/s likes ’em big!

      • wat

        For sure it would be too small for my preference, I am getting more comfortable with the idea of 4:3 though because even though this is 16:10 it could do with a bit more vertical space (used horizontally)

        • Karly Johnston

          N7 is 16:10… works great for me.

  • BatDroid

    Well! I don’t care about this non sense. But I am really disappointed with Moto G 2014 and Nexus 6. Not upgrading. Going back to flip phones.

    • I’m also disappointed in you that you want the nexus and moto g, whereas the best phone this year is the z2 or z3. Come on

      • Anonymousfella

        Z2 is best? Are you employed by Sony or what?

      • BatDroid

        I disagree. It might be for you. They have a bad history of not releasing updates. Big brazels, Glossy back, Overpriced .They have improved a lot, but it will take time to build trust. Z3C is great phone but is overpriced . I wanted a decent upgrade to Moto G—- a 4.5″ 720p IPS panel with better viewing angles and higher brightness, good contrast, Snapdragon 410, 2GB RAM, adreno 306, 2500MaH battery, SD card, more compact, with similar design language as the earlier one, priced below 250USD. Best isn’t always what people need. Note 4 is better than Z3, but I don’t want it, because I don’t need it. Why waste $900 on something that essentially does the same thing as a $250 device. I’m a different type of enthusiast, I want technology to be affordable. Corporations are fooling people like you. I’m okay with your disappointment.

        • What do you mean by “overpriced”? Can you compare a 4.5″ IPS 720p screen to a 1080p 5.2″ Trilluminous display?

          Corporations aren’t fooling us. Perhaps, you’re ‘fooling’ yourself by thinking a budget phone with less specs is better. You’re really kidding me.

          Talk of iPhone, and yes, its overpriced. But the Z2 or z3 is NEVER ever overpriced. The technology packed into the phone is priceless. Getting the z2 for around 450$ or so today is the best deal you can get on the market today, for the punch it comes with.

          You’re comparing an aeroplane to a rocket, an expect their cost of purchase be same. Come on, don’t be kidding yourself. Looking for the BEST phone today, its the specs that everyone look at, and wonder what an IPS display is even doing in the run for Best phone.

          • BatDroid

            No, what I’m saying is “Most people don’t really needs a f**king rocket!”. Just take a look at their sales figures, which perfectly reflects my point. I think there is no point explaining this to you. So I’m not going to dignify any more of your ignorance with a reply.

  • Akki

    Offtopic: I think they took the design mixed of Nexus 5 from front..!!! xD

  • Anonymousfella

    Shouldn’t it be based on the newer ARM v8 architecture instead of cortex a57s? And when will we see the new USB C type in a phone?

    • ch_anon

      The thing is, cortex A53 and cortex A57 are both actually based on ARM V8 architecture in big.LITTLE configuration.

    • Cortex A57 actually implements the ARM v8 architecture. See wikipedia
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-A57

      • Anonymousfella

        Thanks for that!

  • s2weden2000

    The radio is disabled..no Gapps..and limited software support…

    • Colton Blumhagen

      Really? Where’d you get that info?

      • s2weden2000

        From their website quallcom development

  • Mohd Danial

    I have a quad hd running 801 soC phone.. checked. 3000Mh checked, have adreno 430 and the 810, SHUT UP and take my money!… Wanna have stock android tablet with that. Any idea how the apple a8x perform against the 810?

  • Karly Johnston

    Battery life, 5 minutes…

  • MrDakhil

    can i use this Qualcomm phone as a daily driver ?
    what is the difference between a developer phone and a consumer nexus ?
    this one does not have a system installed ?

  • Adrian Meredith

    New adreno is only 30 percent faster? That doesn’t even sound like it’ll match the k1 and Maxwell should be on the way. Very interested to see how a57 performs.

  • 32GB built in with a microSD slot FYI. Tempting.

  • Michael Paul

    What antennas and LTE specs ? Carrier compatibility.?

  • Djordje Danicic

    We need a device with internals like these (performance wise ) , but with a 1080p display …. 2560×1600 might be an overkill .

  • Andrew T Roach

    Stock ARM cores in the 810 instead of custom architecture from Qualcomm?

    How the mighty have fallen.

  • Jaromir

    The force is strong with this one, but I hope that software developers doing their jobs on such device will keep in mind that current market portfolio of smartphones may not be so powerful and that the created apps will respect a less prominent hardware of contemporary devices.

  • D3Seeker

    Now thats what a tablet should be, Not these skimmed down pos everyone tries to sell.

  • meizhong bai

    to bad it you can’t make a phone call with it. maybe i’ll go hotspot only/ google voice from now on. we won’t need phone numbers soon anyway. gmail or wechat or barcode, etc.

  • Jarl

    anyone know the weight of the tablet?