Snapdragon 800-powered Pantech shows in benchmark, 10% better than Octa Galaxy S4

May 27, 2013

Snapdragon 800

Yet another rumor has appeared involving Qualcomm’s as of yet unreleased Snapdragon 800 processor, the successor to the already speedy Snapdragon 600, which powers handsets like the HTC One, Samsung Galaxy S4, and LG Optimus G Pro.

We recently heard that the next Oppo Find handset could be using the chip, and some benchmarks appeared a couple of months ago suggesting that a future LG handset would also be running the latest Snapdragon, which produced some impressive initial test results.

The latest benchmark comes courtesy of the Japanese website RBMen, which has obtained results for Pantech’s currently unannounced IM-A880 smartphone. This could well be a successor to the Pantech Vega No 6, model number IM-A860, which used an older Snapdragon S4 Pro chip.

Anyway, now for the results. The phone scores an impressive 30133 in the Antutu benchmark when clocked at 2.1 GHz, which easily beats the older Snapdragon 600 chip and even outpaces Samsung’s Exynos 5 Octa Galaxy S4, which scored 25900 and 27417 in our own Antutu tests.

Pantech IM-A880 Snapdragon 800 benchmark

Percentage wise, we’re looking at around a 10% increase clock for clock over the Snapdragon 600, and a similar peak performance increase over our current benchmark leader, the Galaxy S4.  That’s not a huge performance improvement, but a decent enough one, considering that the Snapdragon 800 is an extension of the current generation of processors.

HTC One vs Galaxy S4 benchmarks

The Snapdragon 800 results would top our benchmarks, surpassing the Snapdragon 600 and Exynos 5 versions of the Galaxy S4 by a decent enough margin.

With the Snapdragon 800 expected to be hitting mass production sometime soon, it’s not far fetched to expect a few leaks here and there, and the results are in line with the performance improvements expected over the Snapdragon 600.

Time will tell if these initial results turn out to be accurate, but, if they are, the Snapdragon 800 is set to be one fast chip.

Comments

  • Stanley Anthonymuthu

    Didn’t the Korean version of GS4 (Exynos 1,8 Ghz) score 32k in An
    http://dl.xda-developers.com/attachdl/bc5627b589bbbf5af82b3045460f6308/51a3568d/1/9/3/1/1/0/0/Screenshot_2013-05-03-10-36-45.jpgtutu?
    And since Tegra 4 is like Exynos 5410 “plain” ARM Cortex A15, wouldn’t Tegra then be faster than Snapdragon 800?
    Btw sorry for my bad english :)

    • Abdul

      You are right. Cortex A15’s seem to be more powerful than Snapdragon 800.

      • amine ELouakil

        you are mixing stuff a little bit, I think you want to talk about krait cores vs Cortex A15 cores and if that the case then yes you are right a cortex A15 core is slightly faster than a Krait 300 core (3.4 DMIPS/MHz vs 3.5) but then power consumption/die size is higher in comparison not to mention that the Krait core clocks much higher something like 2.5Ghz

        • Abdul

          Well, I’m sorry my original comment meant that the Cortex A15’s are more powerful than the S800 on the same clock speed. I maybe wrong though.

          Btw what is this “3.4 DMIPS/MHz vs 3.5″ ?
          This is the first time I’ve heard this and also from where did you got this information and what does it mean ?

  • Toss3

    Seen plenty of i9500s at 30k and above.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JasonYuen Jason Yuen

    My last 3 phones were Galaxy S 1,2,3. It’s time for a change. I hope this makes it into the Note 3. I’d be all over that.

  • Poka

    That makes me looking forward to Note 3 with better software (newer android) and with a little higher clock speed of CPU (just like Samsung ever did with Note 2 campare to S 3) 10% of difference from Snapdragon 800 is not the problem at all

    Of course , I’m Samsung fan

  • Ruzveh

    I am already impressed here.. Wow thats an exciting features set that Q is coming out with… Whats more exciting here is not only the processor speed but also some of the higher config features a must these days in our smartphones like
    1. USB3 (whether required or not YES i want it)
    2. Low Pwer processor
    3. Wifi 802.11ac
    4. DTS & DD P (wow why dint they think of this earlier)
    5. FM yes we want it.. r u listening Samsung?

    6. BT 4 builtin (dunno whether they add chip or comes builtin)
    7. Good navigation support

    I guess Tegra 4 is lacking here and so the competition.. thought this spec is still not enough

  • Mike Mikowski

    @Ruzveh: As I predicted 3 months ago (see comment http://hothardware.com/News/Qualcomm-Boasts-Snapdragon-800-Will-Easily-Beat-Tegra-4/) the 800 does not beat the Tegra 4 contrary to the boasts of Qualcomm execs. 30k at nearly full clock. Yawn, Tegra 4 has shown nearly 37k at 1.9GHz (and over 32k in the soon to ship shield) I expect the 800 is going to have a tough time beating the Tegra 4i at 2.3GHz and it’s A9 r4 cores (which nvidia developed, iirc)

    Of course there are other facets besides raw speed. Like the fact that the 4i has always on HDR, or is half the die size of the 800 (that could mean half the cost!) Indications are that the power draw will be lower too. And the soft modem looks incredible. OTA modem updates anyone?

    The point here is the tegra 4 series is not lacking, but is instead leading in number of key areas. If you want the fastest tablet, you get a tegra 4, because it appears to out class the Qualcomm. If you want the fastest and most capable phone, then it appears to be a bit of a toss up. The Tegra 4i certainly looks competitive, and in some cases superior (like cost, packaging, power draw, HDR).

    • amine ELouakil

      You are really missing the point, first of all Tegra 4 is not a smartphone SoC due to it die size and power conception, the other part is that the S800 is a 2.3 Ghz SoC, and in all those benchmark we see a much lower frequency, the other part is that the S800 integrat modems and other connextivity modules where as the 4i doesn’t or does partialty and no the 4i is just a pimped Tegra 3 at a similar frequency as the S800 it will not match it in terms of speed, and in terms of cost, the Qualcomm solution are cheaper than Nvidias, I don’t see that changing soon

      • Mike Mikowski

        @amine: I don’t think I am not missing the point. Let’s deconstruct your comment.

        First, let’s clarify a few facts. The s800, the T4, and the T4i are all SoC’s with numerous features. It is incorrect to state that the benchmarked s800’s are clocked at a “much lower frequency.” The benchmarks are showing 2.15GHz. That is all of 0.15GHz less than the published maximum frequency of 2.3GHz. If we assume all other subsystems can keep up (a big assumption), and that the s800 can actually hit 2.3Ghz, this means the best an s800 part can manage is probably less than a 7% improvement. Extrapolating from these benchmarks, that would mean an Antutu benchmark topping out a little over 32K. NVidia Shield already shows a score over 32K, and the T4 showed 36.5K in Barcelona on prototype hardware.

        Now let’s consider the two major markets: tablets and smartphones. T4’s are probably best for tablets, as there is more power available. The T4 has plenty of SoC features like low-power video decoding. While it does not provide an integrated modem a mating softmodem (Icera i500) is available – see below. It also includes revolutionary HDR capabilities, 6x the graphic compute unites (expect 4x performance) over the T3. HP, Vizio, and Acer have considered these advantages, and are producing tablets with T4 for a reason.

        The T4i is better positioned for phones, but it is not just a “pimped” T3. First, the R4 A9 cores have about 15% better IPC compared to the T3 R2 A9’s. The Krait cores are also derived from A9, which should make an interesting comparison as the Tegra 4i is also a 2.3GHz part. Second, the Tegra 4i has 5.5x the graphic compute units of the T3 (expect 3x performance). Third, the T4i has an integrated soft LTE-capable modem (Icera i500) that can handle 150MB/s transfer, which if I understand correctly, is the fastest available. Unlike the Qualcomm hardware part, this modem can be reconfigured “on the fly” based on network availability, or with an over-the-air update. Fourth, the T4i has impressive DSP capabilities like always-on HDR which is probably giving Qualcomm heartburn. Fifth, the die size of the T4i is about half that of an S800. This translates into lower heat and (possibly significantly) lower cost. Sixth, the T4 and T4i have hardware decoders that work in low-power mode, so videos can be viewed with significantly lower battery drain.

        So the T4i may or may not be a bit slower than the s800, but it should also provide better battery life and lower cost. Seems like it will certainly be competitive.

        I do not work for NVidia or a competitor. I own a Nexus 4 with a SnapDragon Pro processor and I like it quite a bit, although battery life could be improved. I also own a few NVidia graphics cards, a nexus 7, and a little bit of stock. I have vetted all the information provided from publically available sources (Google is your friend). If NVidia delivers, I expect it to make a fair dent in Qualcomm’s market share.

  • hot_spare

    Hmm..

    A 2GHz SoC. Did you check the clock speed for Exynos? Did you check the highest scores in AnTuTu??

    Exynos @ 1.6GHz beats this even though it is clocked 25% higher.

    No, it’s not 10% faster. The fastest results for AnTuTu are for Exynos 5410. Check the results in the benchmark. And this is the number when it is clocked lower than Qualcomm SoC. And that is even more impressive.

    [IMG]http://dl.xda-developers.com/attachdl/81033a45ffe0a6f0bf5015b9e5143c21/51a39e36/1/9/9/3/3/6/9/uploadfromtaptalk1369595868892.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]http://dl.xda-developers.com/attachdl/c040e48787a74c86b78a14dc9a4220b7/51a39d99/1/9/9/3/3/6/7/uploadfromtaptalk1369595837759.jpg[/IMG]

    • pulkit

      But Samsung had thermal issues with octa it can not be clocked above 1.8 GHz in a phone .

  • Anirudh

    Finally the USB 3.0 shows in smartphones soc’s capability list !!
    And integrated 802.11ac… that’s neat.. (Broadcomm, you listening ? )