Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 said to be 50% stronger than the Samsung Exynos 7420

by: Edgar CervantesOctober 22, 2015
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We know it’s unfair to compare the Samsung Exynos 7420 to a next generation high-end processor, but in this case Sammy’s chipset is serving as a benchmark that will help us get an idea of just how good the Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 SoC will be. That is, assuming the latest report is to be believed.

Analyst Pan Jiutang has published insider knowledge coming from an “upstream friend” who claims the Snapdragon 820 is going to be a massive upgrade compared to current generation flagship processors. The source claims there are insane differences between the Snapdragon 820 and the Exynos 7420, which is the CPU you will find in most Samsung high-end smartphones right now, including the Galaxy S6 and Galaxy Note 5.

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It turns out the Snapdragon 820 will be 50% more powerful than the Exynos 7420, a chip that is already known for its ample processing power (#1 in our Best Android phones post has this CPU). Furthermore, it is said even single-threading tests produce the same outcome.

qualcomm-snapdragon-820-leakGiven, these are processors from different generations, but a 50% increase doesn’t fail to impress, especially considering most upgrades tend to be gradual. It also leaves us wondering why the already powerful Snapdragon 810 would need such a huge upgrade. Especially considering people were left worried about possible overheating issues. Will that much more power warrant an equal amount of added heat? Let’s hope not!

We must also keep in mind that recent rumors say the Samsung Galaxy S7 is to feature a Snapdragon 820 processor in the USA and China. The reason is still unknown, but such happening would suggest Samsung has a basis for opting for the Snapdragon 820, as opposed to its own chips.

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So far we know the Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 will feature the new Adreno 530 GPU, a Hexagon 680 DSP, an improved Kryo CPU and improved  LTE/WiFi connectivity. More details will probably come as we near a release, but the real competition wills start once we start hearing more about Samsung’s upcoming processors. Until then, all we can do is look at our newest Galaxy handsets and wonder what it would be like to have 50% more power added to them.

Do you even need that much performance?

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  • 404

    Samsung chose 820 cuz it needs something new to be shown. It probably hasn’t developed anything yet after the 7420. Battle of specs is still on i guess.

    • Diego

      Not really sense qc is going back to quad core chips.
      they are the first one to wake up to see that specs don’t matter just like the a chips and Nvidia tegra chips have proven again and again.

      • 404

        True. But i meant they just need something new to say, because consumers don’t really know what’s behind it. Just a name with a large number is good enough for them to think it’s better

        • Diego

          The iPhone is also causing them bad publicity.
          Because its beating the hell out of them in some areas except on multicore.

          • 404

            But multicore is the only “mode” used right? And I don’t think the peasants (common people) know about this.

  • monkey god

    Stronger? so it resists being snapped in half by 50%? Shouldn’t the headline say “more powerful”?

    • WorldStarrrrr

      lol..agreed..powerful or faster is fine but whats stronger?

  • TyH

    New heater

  • #Note5 IsBoss

    I wouldn’t worry to much about Qualcomm’s talk about anything regarding The Snapdragon 820 pretty sure it’ll be using Samsung’s 14nm finfet processes otherwise Qualcomm is dead without Samsung’s help.

    The Exynos 7420 14nm processor shit and pissed all over the crappy overheating joke that was the Snapshit 810 20nm processor and makes the Snapshit 808 20nm processor even more of a joke.

    At the end of the day Samsung is so far ahead of Qualcomm with it’s upcoming 7890 10nm mongoose processor with the Mali T 820 Qualcomm can take a seat in dumbfield corner.

    • Svnjay

      Your were all over Qualcomm till the S6.

    • TheDude

      The 810 ans 808 are rushed chips based on clear A53 and A57 cores (unaltered architecture), while the 820 will be based on Qualcomms custom architecture – the Kryo architecture. Just like the 801 and chips before it were based on the custom Krait architecture and were quite great.

    • B4kken

      “They made something bad so now they’ll never be good again”… It’s usually the one’s on top that falls.

    • Diego

      Imho TSMC already have 10nm on the works so qc can go there tho I don’t think its going to be ready for e early 2016.

    • Mehmed

      1. We have a 7850 and a 8890 but no 7890.
      2. The 7850 is even not as fast as the Exynos 5433 at 20nm.
      3. Mongoose will be 14nm LPP not 10nm. We won’t see that until next next year with the S8 in 2017.
      4. The Mali T820 is very slow and even a Apple A6 from 3 years ago can beat it. You mean T860 or even T880, right?

  • Btort

    even if the galaxy s7 has this new chip it will still lag compared to a htc m9 or a nexus 5x #truestory slimmed downed touchshit will just negate that 50% increase in power

    • ConCal

      Truth

    • Xavier_NYC

      normally I would say that’s a stale TW joke but after using the Note 5 for almost two months I totally agree.. Stutters and lags all over the place even with the top of the line specs smh.. Getting rid of it asap.. This officially shows me that specs aren’t everything and I’d rather have a phone with a good overall experience hence why I’m getting the Nexus 6P.. Also had the Note 4 for a year and don’t get me started on how that went to crap…

      • Phillip

        Dude your n5 most be broken mines is a beast and the friends of mine that have both the n5 and GS6 edge plus say the same thing your one of the frist person that I’ve seen who very said the n5 lags

        • Diego

          Ammmmmm
          my gs6 also lags.
          after a few months in use.

          • WorldStarrrrr

            Reboot? Wipe Cache? Is this a specific app thats lagging? Saying something lags is like saying “The internet is slow”. Its easy to blame the OEM but more details is required for analysis

          • Diego

            The phone as a whole lags.

          • retrospooty

            He is experiencing Sambloat. It’s not a new thing. The newer products like S6 and Note5 are improved from the massive bloatware on the previous 3-4 generations, but it still happens a bit.

      • Andreas Larsson

        So why get the note 5 if you didn’t like the note 4? ^^ can you smell that smelly smell?

        • Xavier_NYC

          I loved the Note 4 and it went to sh*t after the Lollipop update so I thought that was the issue. I drank the Samsung juice and believed them when they said this version would be better plus it was a early upgrade so why not.

      • retrospooty

        You have to keep it clean. If you just boot it up and let all the crapware run it will lag a bit. Debloat it and it will fly, that is true for pretty much any OEM Android phone. The OEM adds a ton of crap and an extra ton for the carrier as well. Kill every single Samsung and [whatever carrier] app on it and you will be amazed.

        • Diego

          Why wood anyone modify a $749 phone, shouldn’t the phone be good out of the box?

          • retrospooty

            Totally agreed it should be… But it isnt… So if you are going to buy an OEM phone, especially from Samsung, (the god of bloat), your choices are to either debloat it, or to potentially (probably) experience slowness. To me the choice is easy, because every single OEM app and every single carrier app are all totally useless, so just take them all out, every last one of them, without exception.

          • TheBigPotato

            Or just install cyangon mod

          • Xavier_NYC

            I’m on AT&T so that’s not even possible.

          • TheBigPotato

            Really.
            Carriers are pain in your country.
            In my country there are only unlocked phones.

          • Xavier_NYC

            Yeah the downside, you don’t fully have control over your phone. The upside, you get phones sometimes cheaper on contract vs paying full price. I paid $399 for my 64gb Note 5

          • TheBigPotato

            That is awesome.

          • Diego

            Well you know what they say, if its not an iPhone its not an iPhone.

          • retrospooty

            And that is a good thing. Its better than an iPhone. With a few mins spent to to kill the bloat, its also faster, thus making it far better. If that’s too much trouble, then you probably should get an iPhone.

        • Xavier_NYC

          I’ve done all that, hell I even created a thread on XDA under the XDA AT&T Note 5 on how to improve battery life. I’ve done the app dissabler pro, i’ve done all the tweaks and still starts to slow down over time.

          • Diego

            Its just android’s nature of slowing down devices over time.

          • retrospooty

            Rooted? If not, you didnt debloat it.

          • Xavier_NYC

            I’m on AT&T so I will never see root. The Note 4 on AT&T doesn’t have root and it’s been out for more than a year so I have no hope for the Note 5. Trust me, I did all of that stuff, I created a thread on all that as well. Was good for a day or two then went back to be terrible.

      • Diego

        Samsung phones feel fast for a few months and then they slow down.

        • Xavier_NYC

          Yup. And after two months you def see some stutters..

      • Btort

        I had the note 4 on launch also, Kit kat was pretty laggy and lollipop just destrroyed that device. I am so glad I didn’t believe in samsungs “slimmed downed” touchwiz claim, I had to go tmobile store and try out a phone and I was able to make it stutter within the first 3 mins of trying the s6 and note 5. While it IS better than note 4s touchwiz, its not good enough. HTC and motorolla are the only others that I look forward to nowadays (too bad m9 sucked and pure had poor battery, otherwise I’d have my pure still.) Honestly 2015 was not that great for mobile phones. I just hope htc can turn it back around

        • Xavier_NYC

          Yeah, this year was a terrible year for phones. I also had high hopes for the M9 based on those leaked renders but the phone turned out to look nothing like the leaked renders.. Hopefully they step it up but so far it doesn’t appear so with the A9

      • Hussein Abdullah

        so true mate, my Little brother uses the my old Nexus 5 and that dang phone is faster than my Moto Nexus 6 for f.u.cks sake i compared them side by side damn it xD
        I really wish for a new Samsung Nexus just the thought about a Samsung Galaxy s7 Nexus would make me crap myself of happiness :D

        • Xavier_NYC

          If Samsung does decide to use the 820 you could always root and flash CM.. That’s about as good as it gets but I’d def like to see either Samsung, Sony or HTC make the next nexus.

      • Hussein Abdullah

        so true, apple uses weak ass CPU and Little ram and still is smooth as ever, Software optimization is everything

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      • Blackhat Dog

        and you still spam on forums…get a life.

    • TheBigPotato

      Htc M9…..That phone with Sd810 is hotter that the sun will perform better. What a joke mate. It sounds like you have a terrible experience with Samsung devices in past.

      • Btort

        even a M8 doesn’t lag compared to a S6, it’s FACT that there is lag. It’s not just me, only samsung fanboys deny the stutter because they never experienced stock android or smoothness like a motorola or htc device

        • TheBigPotato

          I sold my Note4 last month and now I am back on Windows Phone. As far as I used Note4. It was quite good. Only the problem was that there was always that annoying delay when you press multitasking key. It was really annoying. I didn’t felt any major noticeable lag.
          Now I will buy Nokia Lumia 950xl for sure. Windows phone is still my first choice.

          • Btort

            If windows let you install android apps I’d def try it. Especially the new ones coming out, I switch phones about 5-9 times a year on average hahah

    • Shamoy Rahman

      That’s why I’ll buy the Sony Xperia Z6. Currently a Z3 owner who had the S3, S4, and S5 before and I can say that all these Samsung flagships I’ve owned in the past were horrible. Sony knows how to optimize hardware and software properly. You see how the Z5 gets third place on Antutu with the 810 and barely lags? That’s because of a custom cooling solution Sony devised and heavy software optimization.

      • Btort

        If you own the z3, the z5 isn’t that much of an upgrade in my opinion besides the fingerprint sensor. Other than that, there’s nothing the z5 offer that should intrigue you. I’m sure you already have great battery life as do most xperias do, and im pretty sure your phone doesn’t lag like how the s6 and note 5 does (don’t listen to those sheeps who claim it’s been slimmed down, I saw the lag of the note 5 within 10 seconds of playing with it) I had a z1 and a z3c, is it me or do they attract dust more easily than most phones? I’m not sure what it is, it could be the screen protector sony installs but I constantly always had to wipe my phone because there’s some dust on the display. I feel you, I had the s3-s5 and note 4, horrible software but great camera and great display. I really hope sony doesn’t close its mobile division anytime soon.

        • Shamoy Rahman

          I already know lol, that’s why I said Z6

  • Robert Johnson

    Heat is a serious issue. Some of the 810 SoCs had to be downclocked so I want to see how many vendors use the 820 and I also want to see if Samsung rejects the 820 like the 810 for the same reasons

    • retrospooty

      The “pre-qual” is already done… This is the same step where last year Samsung chose not to use the SD810. Samsung is already committed to using the SD820, just like it has used Qualcomm for every flagship model in the past 5-6 years except 2015.

  • retrospooty

    The Exynos 7420 is quite alot faster than the SD810, and Qualcomm claims the SD820 is “up to” 40% faster than the SD810. Doesnt add up.

    • Mehmed

      Qualcomm says its 100% faster than SD810. The 40% is not for CPU but for GPU.

      • retrospooty

        I will believe that when I see it. Not that I care, I would be perfectly happy if it’s the exact same speed as long as it runs cool and efficient.

  • Marty

    Shamsung going with the SD820 is wise. The Exynos, though powerful, is troubled with lag and stutter. I’m sure Shammy knows this too and that’s why the change.

  • Mehmed

    Yes we need so much performance and we need even more than that why? Because we need a CPU with 1 core at 100 Mhz which is faster then the Apple A9X!

    • Diego

      a9x is at intel core i3 or i5 right now.
      the a9x is a total different beast.

  • jpswain

    The snapdragon 820 is slated to come off the technically superior assembly line of Samsung’s 14nm chipset plant. Obviously Samsung will make huge profits being the OEM manufacturer for the processors that are going into nearly every smartphone, including Apple’s, a closely guarded secret.

    • Diego

      not for the iPhone 7 tho.

  • Jimmy C

    The SD820 at full speed may well be 50% more powerful than other processors, but at those speeds may also experience SD810-like overheating. In reality, they will likely clock it in the middle to get the best of both worlds. There is a spectrum of efficiency where you can choose computing power energy usage (heat). This has been standard for all processors for years – desktop processors tend toward high power, mobile processors tend toward low energy usage. The problem with the SD810 was that their new chip architecture wasn’t up to snuff, but they couldn’t clock down because it was supposed to be their fancy new flagship SOC.

  • Great pricing there. I’m sure a bunch of people eyeing a 6S caved and brought a Priv because its just so damn cool.

  • Hussein Abdullah

    Now it’s time to take a Minute and laugh at all the idiots who bought the Nexus 5X and 6P with those 2 crappy chipsets xD, I still don’t understand why Huawei just didn’t take their Kirin 950, that one is a beast but why using the 808 and 810 when the 820 is right around the Corner ….facepalm is huge on this one

  • Garrett Lee Reyman

    “Do we even need more power?” No. But if they can control the heat and throttling, I can’t wait.

  • retry4

    Stronger? How much does it lift?

  • ChrisGX

    So. is the SD 820 35% faster than the SD 810 (as claimed for early test SoCs), twice as fast (as claimed on the Qualcomm site today) or 50% faster than the Exynos 7420 (as claimed by this article)? Thankfully, it doesn’t look we will have to wait much longer to find out and we will be spared the torture of any more of these uninformed rumours that sadly are being treated as fit for publication.

  • ChrisGX

    Well, the performance of those early production samples seems to closely align with the soon to arrive production chips. That makes sense actually, because after samples start rolling out production improvements, excluding some major respin of the design, don’t bring vast improvements. And, inevitably, the chip vendor must make a judgement about which improvements get incorporated in the current production run and which ones can be incorporated in a future design revision.