-Thin and light metal design
-Beautiful 1080p panel
DASH charging works as advertised
Great all day battery life
Performance is smooth and responsive
Great all around rear camera
Improved front facing camera
Dual SIM
Fast fingerprint sensor
OxygenOS is more refined


No expandable storage
Single bottom firing speaker

Bottom Line
OnePlus 3T
by OnePlus

The OnePlus 3T makes improvements in all the right places and while this does result in a price hike, the end product and improved user experience certainly makes it worth the extra money.

In the past, OnePlus focused on one primary flagship per year, though this changed in 2016. Only six months after the OnePlus 3 was first announced, OnePlus returned again with the OnePlus 3T. As the name suggests, this device is essentially a souped up, or “Turbo” version of the OnePlus 3 that builds on everything we loved about the first, while giving it a slightly more competitive edge against the competition.

A few months later, the first 2017 flagships have started to surface but the OnePlus 3T remains one of the best options on the market, especially for those that are price conscientious. So what exactly does the OnePlus 3T bring to the table, and how does it compare to the OnePlus 3, as well as more recent competition? Let’s dive in and find out.



As far as the design is concerened, the OnePlus 3T looks exactly like its older sibling, and features the same full metal unibody construction, with a slightly curved back and rounded sides and corners. Despite being made entirely of metal, the phone is surprisingly light, and because the back tapers along the edges, it feels thinner as well, making for a device that is very comfortable to hold.

It’s also not a very tall or wide phone and is only slightly larger than the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, allowing for a comfortable one-handed experience despite coming with a 5.5-inch display. There isn’t any 3T logo anywhere on the device that explicitly indicates that this is the upgraded flagship, and the only way to to really distinguish it from the older OnePlus 3 is by the color.


The OnePlus 3T is available in the same gold variant as the OnePlus 3, but the second color option is gunmetal instead of silver. The gunmetal version comes with both 64 and 128 GB options, while the gold iteration only comes with 64 GB of on-board storage.

As was the case with the OnePlus 3, build quality is not an issue here, and everything is very well put together. Taking a look around the device, the power button and volume rocker are on the right and left sides respectively, and the buttons feel very tactile and are easy to press. Above the volume rocker is the very useful Notification Slider, that lets you quickly toggle between silent, do not disturb, and full volume options.


At the bottom is the headphone jack, the USB Type-C port, and the single speaker unit, and up front is the home button with the integrated fingerprint scanner, flanked by capacitive back and Recent Apps keys. The back key is on the left and the Recent Apps key is on the right by default, but you can flip the orientation if you prefer in the Settings.



Things remain unchanged on the display side, with the OnePlus 3T also coming with a 5.5-inch AMOLED display with a 1080p resolution. As is expected from an AMOLED screen, you get rich and vibrant colors with a lot of contrast, and the optional dark mode that is built-in to Oxygen OS takes fanastic advantage of the deep inky blacks. If you aren’t a fan of the vibrancy though, it is also easy to switch to a sRGB color mode in the Display Settings that provides a more natural and less saturated look.

Brightness isn’t a concern and allows for comfortable outdoor visibility. Sharpness isn’t a problem either, and to the naked eye, the difference between this 1080p panel and other Quad HD screen won’t be noticeable, unless you are using the phone for VR. OnePlus feels that VR isn’t mainstream enough to justify the jump to Quad HD, and decided to stick to 1080p to aid with the battery life.



There aren’t a whole lot of differences between the OnePlus 3 and the 3T, but performance is one area that has seen an improvement. Under the hood, the OnePlus 3T comes with the new Qualcomm Snapdragon 821 processor, clocked at 2.35 GHz, which is faster than the one found in the Google Pixel smartphones. The 3T retains the 6 GB of RAM that is also available with the OnePlus 3.

Not surprisingly, the performance is absolutely fantastic with the OnePlus 3T, with the comparatively lower resolution display a contributing factor as well. Opening, closing, and switching between apps is smooth and snappy, the touch responsiveness is excellent, and the device also handles graphic-intensive gaming comfortably, with no dropped frames to be seen.

With 6 GB of RAM, multitasking isn’t an issue either, and you can have a lot of apps in running the background and keep them for a very long time. The OnePlus 3T features one of the quickest and smoothest Android experiences out there. Granted, it may not be as smooth as the experience available with the Pixel devices, but it is certainly up there among the best.



As mentioned, 64 GB and 128 GB are the internal storage options available, but if storage is a concern, users will have to opt for the higher variant, with expandable storage via microSD card not being available. Getting the 128 GB model means that you will also get the new gunmetal color.

The fingerprint sensor that is integrated into the home button up front does unlock the device really quickly, but it is unfortunately not the most accurate scanner out there. It is fairly reliable, but there have been quite a few instances where it misreads my fingerprint. You can also add a variety of long press and double tap functions to the home button and the capacitive keys.


Another area where the OnePlus 3T has received an upgrade is in the battery department, with the device coming with a 3,400 mAh battery, which is a slight bump when compared to the 3,000 mAh unit available with the OnePlus 3. The 13% bump in battery capacity is more impressive when you consider the fact that OnePlus was able to achieve it without making the phone any heavier or thicker than its namesake.

OnePlus’ Dash Charge technology is available here to quickly get the phone back up to a full charge. The biggest advantage with this technology however is that the majority of the heat that is generated during charging is contained in the wall adapter and doesn’t make its way to the device. This also means that you can use the phone while it is charging, without worrying about the charging speeds being throttled in order to control the device temperature.


OnePlus claims that you can get a full day of battery life after charging the device for just half an hour. In my experience, that translates to a charge to 60% in half an hour, which is certainly impressive, and very useful if you don’t have a lot of time to fully charge your phone.

As far as the battery life is concerned, the overall experience has been extremely good. The phone easily lasts all day even with my fairly heavy usage, which typically consists of several hours of gaming, watching videos on Youtube, and streaming music, throughout the day. So, while this bump in battery capacity may seem small, it seems to make a significant difference to the battery life.



The final area that has seen an upgrade from the OnePlus 3 is with the camera, but this change is more focused on the front-facing shooter, which is now a 16 MP unit, which is double the 8 MP sensor that was found with the OnePlus 3. The rear camera is the same 16 MP unit that was available with the OnePlus 3, and  comes with a f/2.0 aperture, optical image stabilization, and phase detection autofocus.

The front-facing camera also comes with an f/2.0 aperture, which helps a lot when taking selfies in low-light conditions. With the bump in megapixel count, you will also have a lot more room to zoom and crop without any deterioration in the quality of the picture, and also enjoy sharper looking video. Overall, you get a far better experience with the front-facing shooter now than you did with the OnePlus 3.


The default camera app is pretty similar to the Google Camera, with many of the same modes to be found here, including Timelapse, Slow motion, and Panorama. The only exception is that manual controls are available if you are looking to dial in the setting yourself, but it is otherwise a very nicely laid out and easy to use camera application.

This is definitely a good camera with it comes to picture quality. Photos are crisp and well detailed, and I really like the color reproduction. You get nice, natural looking colors, and the images are sharp enough, but without looking oversharpened and artificial. If you do want some extra sharpening, the HQ mode is available, which adds a fairly noticeable amount of sharpening to the photos. However, the images looked fine in most situations, and I rarely had to use this feature.

In terms of dynamic range, the camera does have a tendency to overexpose the shot and blow out a lot of the highlights, but HDR mode alleviates this problem easily. It does a great job of pulling extra detail from the highlights and shadows, while still maintaining the natural look of the original image. Low-light shots can be good, but onl when using the HQ mode. Without it, images are noisy and soft, and the mode allows for sharper, more detailed images that are a lot cleaner.



On the software side of things, the OnePlus 3T is running the latest Oxygen OS 3.5.1 based on Android 6.0 Marshmallow, and you get a very stock Android look and feel here, but with a lot of customizations available that add to the experience without getting in the way.

Shelf is still accessible by swiping to the left of the home screen, and holds a lot of information, including the weather info and your recent contacts or used apps. You can also compose memos and manage your data, storage, and battery life, and there any widget can be added here, instead of having them take up space on the other home screens.


A few new customization options have been added to the latest version of the Oxygen OS, such as a built-in night mode, that makes the viewing the screen easier on your eyes at night. There are custom accent colors, support for third party icon packs, and the screen off gestures like double tap to wake, or the ability to launch the camera or flashlight by drawing on O or a V on the screen.

You can truly tailor the experience to exactly the way you like it, and that is one of the best parts about Oxygen OS. This updated version introduces some new features to further refine the experience. You can now swipe down on the screen with three fingers to take a screenshot, and add a password or use your fingerprint to lock down any application.

Despite still being based on Android Marshmallow, OnePlus has also updated the notification shade to the Android 7.0 Nougat style that comes with easy access to the Quick Settings with one downward swipe. OnePlus hasn’t announced a specific date as to when an official update to Android 7.0 Nougat will be available, but it is slated for the end of the year, and will be made available for both the OnePlus 3 and 3T.


 OnePlus 3T
Display5.5-inch Optic AMOLED display
1920 x 1080 resolution, 401ppi
Corning Gorilla Glass 4
Processor2.35GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 821
GPUAdreno 530
Storage64 or 128GB (Gunmetal only)
UFS 2.0
PortsUSB 2.0, Type-C
Dual nano-SIM slot
3.5 mm audio jack
ButtonsCapacitive hardware keys and on-screen navigation support
AudioSpeakers: Bottom-facing speaker
Microphones: Dual-microphone with noise cancellation
CamerasRear: 16MP Sony IMX 298 sensor, 1.12μm, f/2.0 aperture, OIS, EIS, phase detection autofocus

Front: 16MP Samsung 3P8SP sensor, 1.0μm, f/2.0 aperture, fixed focus
SensorsFingerprint, Hall, Accelerometor, Gyroscope, Proximity, Ambient Light, Electronic Compass
ConnectivityWi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
Bluetooth 4.2
BatteryNon-removable 3,400mAh
Dash Charge (5V 4A)
SoftwareOxygenOS based on Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow
Soft Gold (Available shortly after launch)
Dimensions and weight152.7 x 74.7 x 7.35mm


Pricing and final thoughts

The faster processor, an improved front-facing camera, and larger battery capacity also results in a bump in the price point, with the 64 GB model priced at $439, and the 128 GB iteration setting you back an additional $40. The OnePlus 3T will be available on November 22 in the US and November 28 in Europe.


So, there you have it for this in-depth look at the OnePlus 3T review! If you already have the OnePlus 3, the 3T really isn’t compelling enough to justify an upgrade. The improvements are nice, but the overall experience isn’t significantly different between the two, and if software updates are a concern, the good news is that both devices will receive them at the same time.

On the other hand, those who have been waiting to see what Google had to offer with their smartphones and were holding off on buying the OnePlus 3 will certainly be elated. Given the upgrades, the $40 and $80 difference in price from the OnePlus 3 is completely understandable, and still undercuts a lot of other flagships. What you get for the money does make the OnePlus 3T one of the best deals you can get for an Android flagship, and is a smart move by the company.

It also holds pretty well against the competition, even more expensive options, and remains among our list of best Android smartphones available right now.

  • CB_Android

    Great review !

  • PDAJah

    The Oneplus 3 was £309 when first launched and now the 64GB 3T will be £399. You do the math on price increase.

    • Matthew Humpherson

      Yep, and they can’t even use the exchange rate as when you factor that in the difference is still massive compared to the rest of the world…

    • Jake

      That is pretty crazy considering that it only rose $40 here in the US

    • cyric0

      one was pre-Brexit, other was post-Brexit. You do the math

      • paxmos

        I wouldn’t pay $4.39 for any phone coming from onePlus nothing company!!!

      • PDAJah

        Well my new Note 5 is similar in price to 2015 and the OnePlus 2 is cheaper than in 2015. You do the math on the unjustified profit on the 3T

        • mrochester

          Apparently the OnePlus 3 was at times being sold for negative profit in the U.K. due to the price being too low.

          • Pranav


          • mrochester

            Because they priced it too low?

          • RiTCHiE

            No because thats how you create a brand. First you sell it with a minimal profit/loss and then when its mainstream you bump up the price.

          • mrochester

            I would have thought that’d just piss people off. Look at Apple for a lesson on how to create a brand.

          • RiTCHiE

            You forgot that apple was almost bankrupt in the 90s right?

          • mrochester

            No but it’s not really relevant to the point. Look at what Apple does now as a demonstration of how to successfully build a brand. Make products that people want and make a decent profit out of them so that you can continue doing the same for years to come.

          • David Martrano

            I don’t like the new iphones. Same bland 10 yr. old design a battery that takes forever to charge! No micros/d expansion or wireless. What about their pricing??

          • Pranav

            op3 was priced higher than expected in India

    • Ava

      OnePlus phones, LG Phones, Samsung Phones, HTC Phones, iPhones and more is now on sale at HolidayShoppingMart(.com

  • Giu26. I’m Zen.

    TY for this complete and great review.

    Considering the benefits of upgrades, this 3T is the proof of the Oneplus smart move and keep the same very good Q/P.

    • David Martrano

      Andrew very good review. For under 500.00 this is a good offering! To bad it’s not offered by Verizon or Sprint!

  • nebulaoperator

    Camera at best is an average.

  • noh1bvisas

    meh screen. old version of android. no removable battery. probably no wifi calling or any of the other features of the v20 and they rate it higher?

    • Still don’t see any reason to give up my LG.

      • B+

        Give it time. Your LG will give up on you.


    @Lanh Nguyen. The Amazon link is not working.

  • Brute Fours

    Micro SD support would have made this an instant buy. Oneplus are already using a dual sim slot, it’s absolutely insane that they won’t release it with a sim/SD combo slot like pretty much everyone else is. For a company whose motto is “Never Settle”, there’s a whole lot of settling going on here.

    • Pranav

      Beleive my SD cards are shit in 2016. SD creates a lot of issues and also very slow compared to internal storage.

      • Brute Fours

        Nah. SD cards are fine for lots of things, like storing media for playback. And that’s still important to a lot of people, even if it’s not to you.

        • Pranav

          128gb version is there for you

          • Brute Fours

            Not enough. I have 128GB in my current phone and it’s full. When these companies sell 256GB phones, maybe I can do without expandable storage, but Asus is doing just that and they’re still including a micro SD slot. ZTE still includes a micro SD slot in the 128GB Axon 7. There’s no reason OnePlus can’t do the same.

          • Pranav

            Seems like they should have gone with Hybrid sim slot.

      • Вond

        Believe me- you are fucking idiot. 99,5% of people don’t need more than 32gb internal storage and ABSOLUTELY NO ONE needs more than 64gb

        • Pranav

          You are fucking correct but you replied to the wrong person.

        • Pradyun

          nah i don’t know man i do download movies so just to be safe it think the 128 gb is good

        • Pete Coventry

          And yet I am using 98…

  • Mad Max

    Dont have this,dont have that hahaha,what a kids haha.
    Phone is perfect,just perfect,perfection. Have all what someone need. But hey,there is always some pussys,who will cry no micro sd muaaaa muaaa,no QHD kmeee kmeee,go kill your self tards. Big kiss :*

  • Adrb

    And how many versions of the device are there? One for China, one for North America and one global?
    What are the radio bands for each?

  • RiTCHiE

    Why do you sound so weird bro? JK :) Awesome review and high lighted all the good points of the OP3T and this phone is still pretty bad ass for such a price.,

  • Gibbs

    that price for 128gb? I can’t really complain! I would have bought it already only if it was available in my country!

  • Aniket Gowardhan

    OnePlus 3T is great deal wow what a phone but it does not make difference one with OnePlus3 only camera in low light needs to improve

  • Howard Stern ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    the camera does not look good at all….did they pay you to say that? i’ve read 3 other reviews pegging the camera as average at best….why are you saying its so great? those meds got you crazy dude :) other than that….good job One+

    • Emma

      OnePlus phones are now on sale at AndroidSmartphoneDeals(.com

    • David Martrano

      Isn’t the camera the trade-off for the price! But the pricing is very good compared to most flagship’s. I bet there is alot of people who could care less about the camera, more interested at the cost!!

      • Howard Stern ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        i suppose so….to each his own

        • David Martrano

          Howard, I picked up a google home the other day. It’s quite a fun toy! Wikipedia really shines. I think it will exceed the Echo in the near future. I love new toys! Have a great Christmas season!!

    • I just got the 3T Midnight Black and honestly love the camera. I’ve got some stunning images with it. Agreed it’s not up to the google pixel or galaxy s7, but an average user really wont make out the difference until you see them side by side. Also, the AMOLED screen just makes the pictures look wayyyy better, lol.

  • Mark Sanderson

    Guess ythe

    • Chuck Jones


      • Mark Sanderson

        Guess you didn’t read my next comment. I was trying to post using an android phone through the browser because the app wasn’t installed. The phone was so laggy that I couldn’t edit my post. Discuss sucks on a mobile browser.

  • Mark Sanderson

    Guess the An Tu Tu scores blow a hole in the myth that iphones only benchmark well because they are pushing less pixels on the screen. The iphone 7 Plus has the same screen resolution as the 3T. Got to admit though the 3T offers a lot for the cost and has great build quality.

  • রুদ্রাক্ষ রাহমান
    • paxmos

      Suspicious tip!!

  • Abhijeet Gupta

    3T and 3 – Same Dimensions one carries 3400 mAh call and other one 3000, why did they not fit a 3400 man cell in the 3 itself.

    • Chuck Jones

      what is a “man cell” ?

      • Abhijeet Gupta

        Mah, autocorrect blooper

    • Simon Carl N. De Leon

      Because when they manufactured the 3 the 3400 mAh battery is still under testing, if they didn’t do that it might be another Note 7 shenanigan. Sorry for the late reply though.

  • Disgustipated

    Lots of comments but no one purchased one? Well, I did and will report back on the 30th.

    • Chuck Jones

      Well, you missed your date by a long shot.
      I bet you’re not happy with now are you?

      • Disgustipated

        Happy with now what? Anyway, why would I not be happy? It’s a fantastic beast and I haven’t even unlocked the bootloader yet. The only things that suck are the OnePlus case and tempered glass. Both garbage.

    • Pete Coventry

      Ive had once since Jan 2017. Love it.

  • mcdonsco

    “Granted, it may not be as smooth as the experience available with the Pixel devices, but it is certainly up there among the best.”

    No, it’s actually MUCH smoother than the pixel. I’m returning my pixel and sticking with the 3T…just a vastly better value for the money and again, definitely faster / smoother than the pixel.

  • sivaram

    AA’s score is good
    battery backup also good
    Non removable battery,and no memory card slot are back drops

  • San

    OnePlus customer care just sucks. I requested a return (which according to the website, I should received a RMA label) instead, I was called 5 times in an hour during my workday. Then the representative said they are going to pick up my phone, it didn’t happen till I email them again. It took them a week to pick up my return phone. Then my return case was rejected because they said they found minor scratch on the phone, I asked if that is normal wear. They said yes, but since they can’t resell it, they reject me. Then they said they are going to send it back to me. It’s 3 days already but I haven’t got any shipping info on it yet. Seriously people, think twice. It’s a good phone but finger cross that nothing bad happen on your phone.

    • nebulaoperator

      Now that’s the only thing that holds me from purchasing oneplus device. I have spend time reading return fault and warranty cases on reddit they are punch bellow waste. I don’t know how long will it take them to sort out that mess but if they do they will trully succeed.

  • Krishna Reddy

    Oneplus3t is bad with connectivity on AT&T and also T-mobile. avoid buying it

  • canucks4life

    WTF your webpage is asking to save a file adtag.js…malware?

  • Chuck Jones

    This has got to be the longest running BS review yet!
    Oneplus must have paid a pretty penny to AA to keep it around for over a month.

  • Wow, what’s wrong with some of you guys? It’s a great phone. That doesn’t always mean they are getting paid just because they like it. WTF.

  • Joms

    Nice revival, 14 hours ago? Got another payment from OnePlus?
    Why don’t you review Le Pro 3 properly and prove your nonsense score of 7.7 to it.

  • mrjayviper

    Any reason why this review was posted again? I get the feeling this reposting was paid for by 1+…

  • sithishs

    I love all the comments below that the 3T “doesn’t even have the features that a [insert phone that costs nearly 2x] has!” Or “the camera doesn’t look as good as my [insert phone that costs nearly 2x]!”
    You people miss the point – Oneplus has always been about giving you *almost* flagship specs and performance at *almost* 50% of the cost. It’s well worth the trade off for most of us…
    Torn between Oneplus and Huawei phones at the moment…but I think the software gives Oneplus the edge… EMUI is so heavily skinned (and not in a good way) that it barely resembles Android anymore.

  • CrustyCrocos

    Bought the OP1, got a screen with yellow stains, they refused to exchange it. Charger broke down 3 months after using, USB cable connector broke due to bullshit design. Every phone from that company had flaws, wouldn’t buy any of them again. I wouldn’t say anything if they had a great service department, but they are just crap.

    • gogo

      Bought the OP1, two years ago. Still no hardware issues. Smooth as a mother*****r. Charger like brand new.
      Maybe a “user problem” in your case?
      Just ordered a OP3T to sell my older device a hundred bucks

  • tiger

    CHEATERS!!!!!! Worthless cheaters!!!

  • Ananya Jain

    Off topic, but, which is that blue and yellow wallpaper used in the review? Doesn’t seem to be stock. Could you please provide a link to it? Looks beautiful on an Amoled display.

  • Otto Andersson

    Switched from the s7. I love it so far but miss the s7 camera and water resistance. This is my first non Sammy phone as my daily driver.

  • Be My Guest

    Great review.

    Heal up fast man.

  • Jennifer Black

    For the future, could you include/mention a review on the loudness and clarity of the receiver for us hard of hearing folk? I’m tired of purchasing and baring with a phone that I can’t hear/understand the person on the other line. Thanks!

  • cwbiiet lala

    Better yet, buy Le eco le max 2 for less then $200, spec comparable if not better then Op3.

  • This phone is just amazing. I’ve been using it for 3 months now and my experience has been great. And I don’t know why people are complaining about the camera, customer support and things. The camera is really good, not just for the price but even when compared to last years (2016) flagships. And the OnePlus team has been amazing with updates, as of writing this comment (April 06, 2017) OnePlus 3T is the only non-Google phone running Android 7.1.1. And they’ve released yet another update (Open Beta) addressing touch latency & many other bugs, and introduced Game Mode, Auto Night Mode, Secure Box, a new Pixel-like launcher (OxygenOS 4.1), improved EIS and more. And honestly, I didn’t even realise there was this touch latency issue until people started making a fuss about it, but yes, that’s there. And the screen is just 1080p. But still, for $439 you’re getting a great camera, phenomenal performance, great battery life, pure close to stock Android experience, bleeding edge software, the fastest charging phone probably (or at least one of the fastest), and a solid phone with metal unibody construction that looks great.

    What more can you even ask for this money? OnePlus 3T is the best value phone out there even now.

  • DavyPaul

    I recently traded in goods and bought a pre-owned OnePlus3. I had issues with the battery. the manager in the trade in store took one look at the battery discharge screen shots and immediately offered to exchange it.
    He apologised for not having a ‘3’ in stock, but did have a 128gb OnePlus3T in store and would I buy it, as he was really tempted but couldn’t justify it! I agreed to pay the difference of 40gbp/45eur/50usd and I am more than happy.
    The additional storage is most welcome for podcasts and ‘pinned’ media (Google Play, BBC etc).
    I cannot agree with the criticism of the camera.
    I used it at a recent rock music weekend. I found I obtained really good results by locking the ‘film speed’ to iso800 or iso1000 and then fixing the focus/exposure by holding the screen at a suitable point in the view. As a result, the software was not ‘hunting’ for a best setting. colour, exposure & contrast all good results.
    (We also have a google pixel handset and I thought the camera results were comparable. )
    The only ‘defect’ in the OnePlus (and the Pixel for that matter) is that, unlike Sony and Samsung, there’s no MHL video output, which is handy when you’re travelling, to ‘smartify’ the hotel hdmi TV :-)
    I put a barely there black carbon case on mine, which makes it less slippery to hold and ‘flattens’ the back which I prefer. i think that Nougat should be on it soon, too.

    • Pete Coventry

      Well it’s been on it since March, so I would hope so too!

      That said we did get OTA updates on a Canadian VPN

  • Ricardo Ruiz V

    Please advise customers about the crappy company, or decrease your rating. I did buy one based on your opinions, received a faulty phone, and now I´m stucked with a faulty phone. The only option “repair”, because they have a 15 warranty policy..

  • April Lynn

    U.S. Buyers Beware: This phone only works on AT&T and T-Mobile networks AND Android Auto does not work. If you use Android Auto for your commute or car travel, get ready to be completely frustrated.