Galaxy Note 4 benchmark suggests that the Exynos 5433 outpaces the Snapdragon 805

June 23, 2014

Last week, hardware specifications for the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Note 4 leaked via the AnTuTu benchmark database. The eagle eyed amongst you may have noticed that something important was missing – the actual benchmark scores. Fortunately, the full array of CPU and GPU scores have now been posted, shedding light on the performance we can expect from the new Snapdragon 805 and Exynos 5433 SoCs.

For a quick recap, the benchmark listing suggests that the Galaxy Note 4 will come with a QHD (2560×1400) display, 3GB RAM, 32GB internal storage, and a 16 megapixel rear facing camera in both models, with either a 2.5GHz Snapdragon 805 or 1.3GHz Exynos 5433 for the SoC.

Samsung Exynos 5433 AnTuTu ranking

The Exynos 5433 shows what ARM’s next generation CPU and GPU cores can do.

The Exynos 5433 comes out as the faster of the two in AnTuTu, surpassing the 40,000 mark with an impressive score of 40,303, to be exact. The new Snapdragon 805 SoC scores a still highly respectable 37780. So, we are looking at around a 15 percent performance boost compared with the current Galaxy Note 3. You’ll also note that the Snapdragon 805 scores only marginally higher than the Snapdragon 801 and 800, reaffirming earlier benchmarks which showed that Qualcomm’s new chips are mostly making ground in the graphics department.

Cortex-A5X vs Krait 450

One of the benefits of AnTuTu is that we can also see scores broken down at the component level, such as the CPU, RAM, and CPU. The quad-core Snapdragon 805 makes use of Qualcomm’s slightly revised Krait 450 CPU cores, which offer up a small performance boost over the current Krait 400 cores, whilst the Exynos 5433 give us an early look at how ARM’s new Cortex-A57 and A53 cores stack up in their octo-core big.LITTLE configuration.

Exynos 5433 vs Snapdragon 805 AnTuTu

The Exynos 5433 scores considerably higher than the Snapdragon 805 in CPU tests, quite possibly due to the new high performance ARM Cortex A57 CPU core.

Looking at the chart above, you can clearly see that the Exynos 5433’s new Cortex A5X CPU cores topple Qualcomm’s Krait architecture. Whilst that might not be surprising as we are pitting eight cores against four, Samsung enabled all eight cores to run at once as of the Exynos 5420, but the Exynos 5433 is apparently running at just 1.3GHz. If true, that’s a very impressive CPU score with the potential for large energy efficiencies, due to the low clock speed. We will have to wait to verify this result, but it is a hugely impressive initial display from ARM’s new range of CPU cores.

Adreno 420 vs Mali-T760

Based on AnTuTu, there’s a similar difference between the two SoC’s GPU scores, the Snapdragon 805’s new Adreno 420 GPU loses out to the new ARM Mali-T760 found in the Exynos 5433, at least at this higher display resolution. Interestingly, these two SoCs with newer CPU cores fall just short of the Tegra K1 in the overall AnTuTu rankings, suggesting that Nvidia’s new chip really is packing in some mighty GPU power.

Exynos 5433 vs Snapdragon 805 GPU AnTuTu

The Mali-T760 seems to have the edge at QHD (2560×1400) resolutions.

It’s also worth noting that although the Exynos 5433 seems to have the better GPU, the Mali-T760 is the top end GPU in ARM’s latest generation. Qualcomm, on the other hand, is planning to bring out its even more powerful Adreno 430 with the Snapdragon 810, which could put the Snapdragon range back on top in the future.

Overall, it looks like a very promising start for the next generation of ARM Cortex-A5X CPUs and another step up in terms of GPU performance. Of course, benchmarks have been shown to be unreliable in the past, so we shouldn’t consider these results as final.

Looking at Samsung’s previous rollouts, it seems likely that the two versions of the Galaxy Note 4 will be sold exclusively in different regions, which may leave a bit of a performance gap between consumers. Do you have your eye on a specific version of the Note 4, or is the performance more than good enough in both variants?

Comments

  • Bali Arif

    more concern about how exynos will survives the future android updates, previous exynos releases were always getting the best impressions when making their debuts, but usually struggle to keeping up with future firmware updates. probably they will fares better on tizen os

    • renz

      luckily samsung can put exynos inside their smartphones and tablet. just imagine if exynos have to compete with the same manner as snapgdragon/tegra/mediatek soc.

  • Mozaik

    Don’t care anymore about benchmark , I just want Samsung to make touchwiz less bloated and lag free and make it stock like UI , for god sake Samsung its 2014 and still your devices lag ( I am saying this because I have note 3 ).

    • jpd514

      “Don’t care anymore about benchmark , I just want Samsung to make touchwiz less bloated and lag free and make it stock like UI , for god sake Samsung its 2014 and still your devices lag ( I am saying this because I have note 3 )”

      Is this is a commercial add from Google?

      • Mozaik

        No one paid me , I as a consumer talking after using Samsung products.

        • Corbin Crutch

          Yeah, because the damn devices are slower than dirt

          • Discuss

            I feel that the little lag that the os has at times, and how ugly the phone is cause it is ugly, doesn’t hold people back from an otherwise awesome if not the best phone money can currently buy.

          • Crutchcorn

            I’m not insulting the phone. Only the software. I loved the note 3

        • shaked

          Ha ! i’m owning my n2 close to an year and i haven’t experienced *a LOT * of lag . i did , but after modifying , freezing , greenifing , rooting , slimming and n3 features – i still have great performance .

      • Karl

        I agree with him. i have a note 3 and it has many minor lag(gallery) but if you see the specs sheet of the note 3 a device like that shouldn’t have any lags its time for samsung to change touchwiz or make it less bloated! :D

      • MasterMuffin

        What is a “pay add” :P

      • Jayfeather787

        Are you trying to communicate?

        • Corbin Crutch

          I think he is. Somebody fluint in this?

    • retrospooty

      “Don’t care anymore about benchmark , I just want Samsung to make touchwiz less bloated and lag free and make it stock like UI , for god sake Samsung its 2014 and still your devices lag ”

      Seconded. FFS, your immense bloatware slows down the mightly Snadragon 801 and makes it run slower than the lowly 2 core Moto E at 1/2 the clock and 1/2 the RAM. Enough already.

      • Corbin Crutch

        Seriously though, just chill Samsung

      • Insomniac9000

        1/3 the RAM, actually, not to rub salt in the wound. :P

        • my2cents

          You guys just need to learn how to root your phone then you can take away all of those bloat ware.

          • Κωνσταντίνος Κ.

            my OnePlus One has plenty of ram available thank’s to stock CyanogenMod (I’m rooted ..today got the phone but I’ll root it someday ..if I want to :P)

            p.s. warranty doesn’t void if you root – way to go OnePlus

    • Brian Ward

      I upticked your post, but want to say that I have been bagging on Samsung for lagginess for the past couple of weeks because I bought a TabPro and was disappointed in the lagginess. I figured out, however, that SwiftKey when SwiftKey was active is when the lag was prominent. I wonder how many people are experiencing this and blaming Samsung, like I have been – since SwiftKey is the most widely installed 3rd party keyboard. A look at the message boards shows lots of people complaining about SwiftKey. It kind of explains some people saying they don’t experience lag on the same exact devices.

      • Mozaik

        I don’t have swiftkey installed , I have installed google keyboard. But my note 3 is still laggy :(

        • Brian Ward

          Fair enough. Just thought I would throw it out there. Google keyboard makes things better.

      • David Baláž

        I second this. I also have swiftkey and know the lag you are talking about on my s4. Swiftkey just does not catch up if you type fast but with pauses. For example you type a sentence then make a pause to think and type again and it lags and for me it does not even recognise the 1.st or 2.letter. Startup also slow and so on. But still TW is poorly optimised. Have you used the gallery? Other apps on the other hand work as intended but some are really poorly optimised.

      • Discuss

        Except it does it on my Note 2 on stock Keyboard as well lol. So i’m also hoping for a slimmed down version of Twiz.

        • Simon Liu

          The stock keyboard uses SwiftKey predictions

    • Rick jaan

      yupe… samsung should throw all TW bloatware apps on play store… n make TW simple, light n easy

    • asd

      I think that some features are useful on touchwiz they just need to tone the memory down and make it easier for users to unistall apps as well as making the UI nicer

      • shaked

        They did . and if you’re not pleased with the TW , move to another launcher . i’m using s5 launcher on n2 and no lag whats-so-ever .

        • asd

          I use Apex launcher…plus the launcher does not get rid of touchwiz ux

    • my2cents

      Learn how to root your phone and use the clear RAM function to reduce lag.

      • Simon Liu

        This isn’t Windows, clearing ram may actually cause apps to have to be cleared and reloaded into ram repeatedly and unnecessarily. The only case where you should manually close an app is if it is misbehaving or if you’re running something older than android 4.0. If it is constantly misbehaving then it’s just a badly made app that you shouldn’t be using anyways.

        Android is linux based, where free ram is wasted ram.

  • namesib

    Really considering getting this phone now…

    • Roberto Tomás

      I liked the Note 3 — I’m mostly just waiting for the thin film display, couldn’t give one whit about increased performance at this point :)

  • Sarper

    Nvidia Tegra K1 got higher scores because it is tested on a device with 1080p screen while Exynos 5433 tested on a Note 4 with 1440p screen.

    • Anonymousfella

      Exactly. I don’t know why it mentioned in this article. Tegra k1 reference tab had 1080p screen

      • hahmed330

        Antutu takes the screen resolution into consideration… Otherwise it will be useless..

        • Roberto Tomás

          Antutu tries to take into account “real usage performance” rather than absolute performance, so it does bias for smaller screens. There’s mention of that here: http://www.antutu.com/i/view?id=3427

  • Jayfeather787

    I believe that at this point in time, mobile processors are pretty powerful, and that small differences in points like this won’t really matter. Anything faster than a Snapdragon 600 is fast, and the 805 is wicked fast. This exynos being faster is fine. The main thing that I am concerned about is the GPU. I wouldn’t mind having those be faster, and I was very surprised that a Mali GPU outran the Adreno 420. However, this is good in the long run. It will put more pressure on Qualcomm to make a faster CPU/GPU. So yay everyone wins.

    • MasterMuffin

      That small difference in points is important, bragging rights!!

      • Anonymousfella

        Better performance to play candy crush at a higher frame rate. #win

        • Corbin Crutch

          Oh god….. Candy Crush…. Hashtags….. I FOUND ONE

          • Anonymousfella

            Noooo please….spare me!

          • Corbin Crutch

            xD Nevermind. He’s coo

      • Jayfeather787

        I think I will install Android on my computer and then benchmark my computer. Just to mess with everyone.

        • MasterMuffin

          I tried that, didn’t work :'(

          • Jayfeather787

            Dang you know everything.

          • MasterMuffin

            I know that you like trailers!

          • Jayfeather787

            Trailers? Like, movie trailers, or trailers you put on a truck? Because I hate both.

          • MasterMuffin

            Latter. But, but your name is a trailer brand :/ Now that I googled it, it’s also a cat. You like cats? :D

          • Jayfeather787

            I hate cats and I am alergic to them, but yes Jayfeather is a blind cat in the Warrior book series. It’s a cool name and I use that username for everything. I am not blind, though. Oh, and I like planes, and that is where the 787 came from.

          • MasterMuffin

            Well :/ This proves that I know nothing :D

          • David Baláž

            You know that you know nothing therefore you know something>>wrong statement :D

          • MasterMuffin

            What if I’m just guessing that I know nothing?

          • Corbin Crutch

            *KNEW. Now we know Jay likes planes and such.

          • Corbin Crutch

            Not without optimization. Me-thinks it might be done

  • Dave Weinstein

    The BIG.little octocore architecture is a bit of a hack. Doubly so since Samsung has basically abandoned using it the way that it was intended and now runs all the cores simultaneously. They’d be better off with 8x ARM-57 cores.

    The real winner is the new Allwinner A80T, which REALLY is using the little.BIG architecture (with older A7 & A15 cores), but pairs it with a much faster PowerVR 6230 graphics coprocessor, and blows away both Samsung and Qualcomm with a 48102 Antutu score. http://www.gizchina.com/2014/06/21/allwinner-powered-onda-v989-octacore-scores-48000-antutu/

    • darkich

      Firstly, the G6230 GPU is not “much faster”, in fact it is undoubtedly much slower than either the Adreno 420 or the Mali T760.

      Secondly, that score is BS.

      Reminds me of the pre – release 45 000 score of the BayTrail chips

  • Anonymousfella

    ” It’s also worth noting that although the Exynos 5433 seems to have the better GPU, the Mali-T760 is the top end GPU in ARM’s latest generation. Qualcomm, on the other hand, is planning to bring out its even more powerful Adreno 430 with the Snapdragon 810, which could put the Snapdragon range back on top in the future.”
    Isn’t the Snapdragon 810 reportedly coming to devices in Q3 2015? It’s basically a chip which will potentially be in the Note 5. How can this be challenging the T760? By that time won’t ARM have a new flagship GPU?

  • Roberto Tomás

    the T760 is clearly the MP4 variant, not the MP16 — oh well. it’s interesting that so many chips are scoring over 40k now. the rockchip rk3288 was 40.6k, and the allwinner a80t got 48.1k in the onda v989 tablet

  • Nate Fredricksen

    I’m more interested in the Tegra K1…I want it in my car. I want it in my TV. I want it in my waterproof Sony Chromebook that doesn’t exist…I guess I just want it.

  • Corbin Crutch

    Yes, but can the Exynos do the camera stuff tha….. No one gives a care

  • Romeo Bucur

    No front facing speakers.. no purchase.. it has gotten ridiculous how we have in pretty much all of our flagship phones.. amazing displays.. and terrible speakers quality.. kudos to HTC for keping that awsome feature on their phones.. samsung.. you better step up or HTC is gonna make a customer out of me… ( Note 3 owner )

  • Kazahani

    Something doesn’t make sense to me. I was under the impression that in the past, Sammy had to use Snapdragon in their US variants becasue Exynos didn’t have an LTE modem integrated onto the SoC. This can’t still be the case, can it? If Exynos now has an integrated LTE modem, why don’t they put it in the USA models? And if it doesn’t, wtf Samsung?

    • John

      Even I have the same doubt, why sammy makes two variants. Use the best soc available for everyone

      • Daniel

        As a handset company, there might be a lot of reasons to keep the two SoC suppliers. As far as I know, Exynos does have its own LTE modem as Qualcomm does.

  • Dylanmk2

    I just want an unlocked and rooted phone with good dev support, 64-128gb internal, and decent specs. Removable battery and mircosd would be nice as well. These wars haven’t brought us features that should be standard, instead we get gimmicks and fanboys….

  • Renu Bisht

    Note 4 is my life, i have to buy it.

    http://www.galaxynote4us.com/

  • Sean Lumly

    An octa core CPU with four A57s and four A53s almost certainly means a sub-28nm node as the A57 is a BIG cpu in die area. And since Samsung has recently entered a joint deal with Globalfoundries to mass produce a 16nm FinFET process, it is very possible that the Exynos 5433 may be a 16nm chip!

    But I’m guessing that four A57s is overkill at the moment, and a poor die-space utilization.

    Even at the smaller 16nm FF process (~10% smaller than 20nm planar) the die-cost per transistor will be higher, so while it may leave much more room for a large GPU, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a small-ish Mali GPU paired with the unit (eg. Mali T760 MP8 at very high clocks afforded by the smaller node) to lower costs. Make no mistake, an 8-core Mali at very high clocks would be a formidable GPU, and I suspect it would outclass any and all SoCs in graphics performance (real workloads that not ALU bound but are memory-access bound) including the upcoming Adreno 805. However, I would have gladly taken two A57s and two (or four) A53s, and increased the size of the GPU substantially with the saved die-space — eg. Mali T760 MP10 or MP12.

    I doubt that there are workloads that will fully utilize the 8-core CPU in a meaningful way, even at 2560×1600 resolutions. After all my Nexus 10 has ZERO problems running apps smoothly at 2.5K resolution with only two Cortex A15s at low clocks and 12.8GB/s memory bandwidth. Mobile games are also likely not to be draw limited for some time (and there are ways to mitigate this). A 2x Cortex A57 would be more than capable of handling a smooth UI at these resolutions.

    But the GPU will have a very noticeable effect on performance, and this is something that shouldn’t be overlooked. Again, a Mali T760 MP8 at high clocks (eg. 900MHz-1GHz) would perform exceptionally well, but a Mali T760 MP12 would be legendary.

    • darkich

      I think it is far more likely that it is a 28nm HPM endeavor, BUT clocked at 1.3GHz for all eight cores.

      Especially since the Snapdragon 810(20nm) is supposed to bring 4×1,7GHz A53+4x2GHz A57.

      • Sean Lumly

        It could very well be 28nm, but one A57 core is looking as though it will be roughly twice the size of one A15 core. So a quad-core A57 could be twice the size of an already large quad-core A15 cluster. If this is the case, while it could certainly could be done at 28nm, it would lead to a very big chip, and as such would be relatively expensive to manufacture.

        At 16nm FinFET, you get slightly more than double the area of 20nm planar, which means slightly double the area of 28nm, making a quad-core A57 (again, if it is indeed 2x the size of A15) a much more comfortable fit — similar in die-area as an A15 at 28nm.

        Again, this is founded on the assumption that the A57 is roughly double the area of the A15. It may not be that big. One other source implies that it will be up to 30% larger (which is far more palatable). There is also the possibility of reducing L2 cache sizes to offset the size difference, or trimming back on other on-chip features.

        Time will tell.

        • darkich

          Form what I know, the A57 is actually not that much different from A15.

          Time will tell, but my bet is that this is a 28nm chip, otherwise it should be clocked something like the Snapdragon 810.

          • Sean Lumly

            I think that’s a good bet.

  • john

    If not 64 bit just waste of time.

  • dsfa

    Even the current exynos in s5 scores around 37k in that benchmark so its not a big deal, for what its worth.

  • sacia

    can somebody tell me how to stop this unnecessary apps of samsung from dowloading on my note3 without my authorization?

  • Just Saying

    Why Don’t Samsung And Qualcomm Work Together And Make A Combination Chip With Both Tastes For The Note 5 Like Exdragon810 (Exynos + Snapdragon 810) To Get Revenge On Nvidia And Overpower That Tegra K1 Chip Even Their Next New Chip For 2015 XD : I MEAN 2 HEADS IS BETTER THAN ONE ;) Js Since That Incident With That Happened And I Never Did Like Nvidia Anyways