ZTE Grand S II may ship with a whopping 4GB of RAM

March 28, 2014
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zte-grand-s-iiWhen it comes to packing in crazy specs into their devices, ZTE seems to be on a roll. Earlier this week we learned of the Nubia X6, a handset with a 6.44-inch display and 13MP shooters on both the front and back. Now it seems that ZTE may be preparing to release the ZTE Grand S II with a whopping 4GB of RAM!

As you might recall, the Grand S II was actually first shown off at CES this year featuring a 5.5-inch display with a 1080p resolution, a Snapdragon 800 quad-core CPU. At the time, it also reportedly offered 2GB RAM.

The Grand S II may have the distinction of being the first phone to offer 4GB RAM

Fast-forwarding to today, the handset has yet to be released but it has recently passed through Tenaa’s website (the Chinese equivalent of the FCC). In the listing, the phone is described as featuring a 2.3GHz processor and 4GB RAM.

Oddly enough, Tenaa’s spec list differs from what we saw at CES in another way: it lists the rear cam is 8MP, while ZTE originally said the phone would offer a 13MP shooter. Other specs mentioned included 16GB storage, microSD and a 3000 mAh battery.

Unless there was a serious mistake made in the listing, the Tenaa listing indicates ZTE has decided to make a few tweaks to the phone’s spec list before releasing it to the public. There’s also the possibility that ZTE is planning to release both a base and a premium model in a move similar to Oppo. If these specs are accurate, it also means that the Grand S II will have the distinction of being the first phone to offer 4GB RAM. Up until now, the highest amount of RAM seen in a handset was 3GB, with most high-end flagships still offering around the 2GB range.

So will the 4GB of RAM make the ZTE Grand S II stomp all over the competition in terms of performance? While it’s nice to see the RAM size increasing, the reality is that you probably won’t notice much (if any) difference when it comes to real world use between the ZTE Grand S II and similarly spec’d phones that offer between 2-3GB RAM. The 4GB RAM could make the Grand S II a bit more futureproof, though.

What do you think, impressed by the idea of a handset with 4GB or is adding so much RAM just a “gimmick” at this stage?

Comments

  • MasterMuffin

    What if they’ve added Ubuntu in it?

    • Corbin Crutch

      Exactly, that’s what I would do if I bought this phone. I’d just bring a screen with touch on it and KB and mouse and BOOM! Laptop AND phone. I know how to port things

  • Shark Bait

    Seems a bit of a marketing gimmick to me. However at those sizes you could start loawding the whole OS into ram and you can get some serious performance

  • Dylan Azari

    How about 4GB of RAM and 64 Bit Processor.

    • Andrew White

      4GB I believe is necessary for Windows 64 bit processing, but definitely not for Android.
      If manufacturers want to include both, as well as the quick charging hardware on board the Oppo Find 7, then …… yes please.

      • Dylan Azari

        I agree.

    • Frank John

      Right on! Not forgetting 128GB ROM

      • Dylan Azari

        And a micro sd card slot up to 128GB!

        • Frank

          Yep, I forgot that too

  • ElizabethBRowell

    Up until now, the highest amount of RAM seen in a handset was 3GB, with most high-end flagships still offering around the 2GB range. http://ll2.de/2/CRB/

  • Brian Dong Min Kim

    Chinese manufacturers, with their spec wars….

  • wezi427

    Sounds more like a gimmick. Once Android moves to 64-bit, then I can understand. Like they said future proof.

    • Sean Karpa

      Except no one keeps their phone long enough for it to matter lol

      • wezi427

        I agree. If phones were made to last longer would the turnover rate be as high as it is now?

        • Sean Karpa

          Unlikely as high but many of us love having the newest phone, it is something we need to work on lol

  • NateCress

    I imagine we will see more and more devices launching with 4GB of RAM within the next year or two. Whether or not it’s necessary doesn’t really matter does it?

  • Vardan Nazaretyan

    Do we really need so much RAM? I am comfortable with (only) 2GB of RAM on my Nexus 5 and so are most probably many others with their 2GB RAM devices. 4GB is just overkill.

    • stucrmnx120fshwf

      I generally have less than half of my RAM to spare on my Nex 5, although my Nex 10 with only 1 GB of RAM, generally has more than half of its RAM to spare. Both of them use Kit Kat, so high end graphics etc., must gobble up the RAM, see my comment below.

      • Vardan Nazaretyan

        Nexus 10 has 2GB of RAM. If you have any RAM to spare, that already means you don’t really need more. :)

        • stucrmnx120fshwf

          My Nexus 10 has 1 GB of RAM, so they gave me a further discount of $50, to $300 Australian. Great QHD screen tablet, but personally I’d prefer 4 GB of RAM, at least 32 GB of flash, I only have 16 GB and better graphics.

          • Vardan Nazaretyan

            How come it has only 1GB of RAM? It should be a production defect, since it should have had 2GB. Anyway, on tablets with multitasking enhancements, 4GB might make sense while on a simple phone 4GB doesn’t.

          • stucrmnx120fshwf

            I’d say, it is a production defect, hence the further $50 discount to $300, my Nexus 5 smartphone is more powerful than my Nexus 7 FHD 2013. Adreno 330, rather than Adreno 320 graphics, LTE Advanced, just as much flash at 32 GB.

          • Vardan Nazaretyan

            Yeah, production defect makes sense. Nexus 5 is still a phone to beat, even with the GS5, Z2, M8 and G3 on the horizon.

          • stucrmnx120fshwf

            Indeed very little performance increase, from Nex 5 and the newbies, I’m waiting for the 64 bit, 14 nm, at least QHD, hopefully UHD. My TV is only $600 and it’s 39″ UHD, damn it’s hard to source 4k Android TV, but I’ll wait and use my sisters account, when I have the dosh.

          • Vardan Nazaretyan

            QHD is awesome on tablets, but pointless on a phone IMHO. The same with UHD and tablets vs PC screens.
            I think we should have something like this:
            Phones: 1080P
            Tablets:QHD (2k)
            PC screens/laptops: UHD(4k)
            TV: 8k

          • stucrmnx120fshwf

            With reading glasses, 6″ UHD would be fine by me, but this year we’re unlikely to beat 7″ UHD given screen densities of 5″ QHD. I’ll be buying next year probably 7″, I’d love a Nexus 6 UHD, but it would probably be to expensive to go 4k at 6″. As to 8k TV, that’s 4x the pixels of 4k, not saying it’s impossible, but it’s a stretch. You’d need some kind of hybrid hard / flash / GDDR5 RAM external drive, to storestore and quickly buffer enough data. Download times would be too long, on all but the most expensive internet systems, so you’d want to go to a node, like a video store. I’m guessing that the screens, could come down in price fairly quickly though, as we can already do QHD in 5″. So in terms of current pixel density that’s 14″ 8k, now, but cheaper at 40″, or so at 1/9 the density. Running 8k decompression would take a 14 nm grade GPUs at hundreds of cores, like K1, again not impossible. As Samsung, Intel, TSMC, and others have invested $40 billion dollars in 14 nm plant. 14 nm will also allow GDDR6, for gaming, that’s the only way to bring content down, to a mass consumer price. Some people on fiber optic cable to the home, hybrid fiber optic coax, fiber to the basement / GSLAM / VDSL, will be able to stream 8k though. 4k would strain fiber to the node, let alone 8k, Green Ray would make 8k a lot easier at 1TB, but will be expensive initially.

          • Vardan Nazaretyan

            I’ve seen an 8K TV by LG a year or two ago on the net. Though it was really big, and I don’t think it is available anywhere and can’t be bought just yet.

          • stucrmnx120fshwf

            With the technology available later this year, prices will go down and then be cheap if they max out at 25 GB/s, then WiFi ac will be 40 times as fast as needed for 8k streaming. However WiFi ac, being high frequency, it does not penetrate walls, so if you want it in more than one room, you’d have to use household electrical wiring networks, to set up multiple WiFi ac hotspots. My Nex5 has WiFi ac.

          • Vardan Nazaretyan

            I know. I also have a N5 but our WiFi router is only b/g/n AFAIK. But again, as long as I can get 20mbps+ without any problem while more than 10 devices are connected, it is good enough.
            Hopefully, we will see some cheap 4k and 8k TV in coming years!

          • stucrmnx120fshwf

            I saw a USB 3 WiFi ac stick for $100 the other day, a 128 GB USB 3 stick for $72, USB 3 is 5 GB/s. But sure my current ADSL 2+ WiFi modem is WiFi n at 300 MB/s, my power line system is 300 MB/s and creates WiFi n nodes. To upgrade my systems to WiFi ac would cost me about $200, trouble is my landline is only 10 MB/s, less in congested times. I managed to get 100 MB/s the other day USB 3 external hard drive to USB 3 external hard drive, wound up taking 3 hours to transfer 1 TB of data across. Not the USB 3 cables and PCs fault, the physics of hard drives, rather than non mechanical ie. electronic flash sticks. A couple of 128 GB USB 3 sticks, would fill each other in less than a minute. But that would be enough for just 1 8k movie, still flash is always getting cheaper and higher capacity. You can already buy 4k movies, on 64 GB USB 3 sticks, 256 GB sticks will be out soon, micro SD cards have just gone 128 GB. GDDR6 will probably pump at 500 GB/s, you’d want to, at 32 GB, 20 GHz, capacities, to drive 8k gaming, from a thousand GPU core 14 nm, 256 bit, 4 GHz, graphics card.

          • Vardan Nazaretyan

            The future sounds fantastic!

          • stucrmnx120fshwf

            It may well be fantastic, if we can do 8k, 4k can be very cheap in time, solar power per kWh equals coal in 2017. Another industrial revolution, from newtownian physics, to quantum, silicon from sand (SiO,) on an enourmous scale, 10 times as efficient as vegitation. I was surprised when I realized that, but checked, since 1977 the price of solar, has gone down by 99%. Compound halving in price, every 5 years, for fourty years. In 2022 it’s half of the price, in 2027 it’s a quarter, sounds strange to think of cheap energy from solar, or making cheap steel from solar power. There will have to be some changes, to get much further than 14 nm, for example honeycombs of 3D printed chips. Micro, not nano Faraday cages electromagnetically isolating CPU/GPU ; flash; GDDR7, with optical interconnects. Then optical computing, very low heat profiles on OC, easy to make 3D chips, without having to use micro tubules, of low viscosity fluids and micro machine pumps, for cooling.

          • Vardan Nazaretyan

            Innovation FTW!

    • MadCowOnAStick

      my nexus 5 lags…

      • Vardan Nazaretyan

        It’s because of software optimizations. Look at Lumia 1520. Spec-wise it is just like the Nexus 5, but it has 0 lag.

        • MadCowOnAStick

          it’s because I multitask too much

          • Vardan Nazaretyan

            Ok then.

  • stucrmnx120fshwf

    I’d have thought you’d need to use a 64bit chip to exploit 4 GB of RAM, in the near future we will be able to use 4 GB for UHD screen software eg. games. With UHD, 14nm, 64 bit, hundreds of GPU cores on mobile chips, we’ll want bags of RAM and flash, Chinese first again with specs. First 128 GB of flash phone, first QHD phone, first 4 GB RAM phone look out the rest of the world.

    • Robert F

      From what I understand 64bit just allows you to take advantage of more than 4gb. 32bit can still utilize 4gb and less.

      • stucrmnx120fshwf

        Your probably right, we’re on the border of 64 bit, Apple having already got there, yet bizzaro Apple only have 1 GB of RAM in their iPhone 5S. So ZTE are probably still only using 32 bit.

  • Flip Jumpman

    RAM is nothing but good to me. I’ll take more please. Why wouldn’t you want it?

  • Buddy

    What we need is a phone with great battery life…