Steve Wozniak suggests Apple could find success with an Android-powered phone

February 6, 2014

Steve wozniak

Even if you don’t like Apple, it’s hard to not like Steve Wozniak. The Apple co-founder is no longer part of the day-to-day operations of Apple, but he always has plenty to say.

Wozniak is a major Apple fan but he’s also not afraid to call Apple out on its weaknesses. Whether he’s talking smack about Siri, saying that Apple is behind the times or speaking out against the patent wars — things are never boring around the Woz. Granted sometimes the things WoZ says are more than a little out there in left field, and the Apple co-founder’s most recent comments certainly fall into that category.

 In an interview with WIRED, Wozniak spoke on a broad range of Apple-related topics, but it was his remarks about the idea of Apple building an Android handset that really stood out.

In the long run, it’s hard to imagine who this Frankensteinian iAndroid device would appeal to.

“There’s nothing that would keep Apple out of the Android market as a secondary phone market,” said Wozniak. “We could compete very well. People like the precious looks of stylings and manufacturing that we do in our product compared to the other Android offerings. We could play in two arenas at the same time.”

Now its important to note that WoZ doesn’t necessarily think Apple will actually make such a move or even that they should, he’s just musing at the possibility and noting that Apple could do it. He also believes Apple would be able to compete very well because of Apple’s hardware quality. It’s true that Apple has the power and means to build an Android device, as nothing is stopping, at least from a technical standpoint.

Android is open-source, anyone can use it. That said, we can’t imagine Google would be all that willing to hand over Google Play certification to such a product, so the aPhone would probably need its own Appstore for Android, or it would have to partner with someone like Amazon.

In the long run, it’s hard to imagine who this Frankensteinian iAndroid device would appeal to, especially without Play services. Perhaps as a device for emerging markets that would have iOS-like characteristics and a budget oriented price tag (sort of like the idea behind Normandy)?

Musing aside, there’s no way such a device will ever come to pass. Even though Android has eaten away at their global marketshare, there are still tons of Apple faithful out there that are more than happy to keep buying iPhones that run on iOS. We don’t expect this situation anytime soon, either.

Still, in a crazy alternate universe where such a device was given the green light, would you consider an Apple-built handset if it ran Android and supported the Play store? Do you agree with WoZ’s assessment that Android users want “the precious looks of sylings” that Apple has to offer? Let us know what you think in the comments below.

Comments

  • Maharaja

    Im an android fan, but i think competition is what makes both OS’s good.

    • jeff

      HELL NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Shark Bait

      You are totally right, android would likely suck without the iPhone! Well done to someone not being a dumb ass and realising this!

    • Luka

      iOS is good? O.o

      • Caleb Wright

        EXACTLY!

      • ddd

        Go fuck yourself because you are jackass apple fan. Apple will be bankrupt no matter what.

        • Luka Mlinar

          I am a Apple fan for asking that question? Heck, i must be in bizarro world. :/

        • Jayfeather787

          He is asking if IOS is good, and he said yeah right. He was just being sarcastic.

        • PeterBlood

          Is that all you can say you witless dolt? Go fsck yourself to everyone? Apple will be the last tech company standing landing atop your cold dead clueless body.

    • ddd

      No, apple’ios software is worst than android.

  • Jayfeather787

    He know’s his stuff.

    • ddd

      He is complaining about his company so he wants to catch up android. HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NOOOOOOOOOOO

      • ddd

        Tim Cook and Steve are worst people in the worst company.

        • Jonathan Sosa

          id agreed but i do still like steve for what he did and how he changed the world, we cant deny how much he has improved the world. also giving us the competition for android to become better.

          • Caleb Wright

            Ya but you also cant deny how android took the IDea of linux computer systems moved the property of freedom and openess over to a phone and has 80% of the world market share today

          • Jonathan Sosa

            I didn’t deny anything. If how great Android is so I don’t need you too tell me about it.

          • smokebomb

            Changed the world? More iPhones are sold in the U.S. than any other country. The iPhone did two things: make touchscreens popular and introduce casual gaming to people that otherwise probably didn’t play video games before.

        • PeterBlood

          ddd is the “worst brain dead person” on the whole Internet whose brain function barely keeps his heart beating. His mouth utters only delirious logorrhea.

      • PeterBlood

        No need to catch up to a world market share mostly made up of dumb feature Android phones that Google gets nothing from.

    • ddd

      He doesn’t know SHIT because his company is far behind from other companies. Apple design the iphone and ipad but processor and camera, and battery made by different companies. So apple can do NOTHING.

      • ah

        Let’s not compare Apple’s specs to android phones.iphone 5s and ipad air out benchmarks the competition.The only problem with apple is that ios is way too restrictive.Take off ios’s restrictions and android is robot crap.

        • Jayfeather787

          IOS benchmarks lie. 1.3 GHz dual core with 1 GB of RAM just doesn’t score higher than a 2.3 GHz with 3 GB of RAM. It just doesn’t happen. I don’t know what kind of idiotic world Apple is in but their benchmarks have to be BS.

          • abazigal

            Not really. It’s like a runner with a lighter backpack (IOS in this case) running faster than a fitter runner with a heavier backpack (android here). iOS is generally more efficient when it comes to managing resources, and since Apple controls both the hardware and software, they are able to control the end user experience and make it seem smooth (even if the device is struggling underneath the hood).

          • Jayfeather787

            Ok

          • ah

            It’s not Apple benchmarks.Apple never mentions any comparisons.All benchmarks are done by third party.

          • ah

            If you believe benchmarks are bs,then you do not know anything about computing.Oh,and people who believe all Apple users are computer illiterates are quite dumb as well.Yes,most ios users are simpletons but os x users like myself prefer os x because it simply works better.I’ve been to DEFCON 2012 and a lot of people use macs there.I have to admit I’m a ameteur programmer myself but the others aren’t and they say they like mac user experience.And anyways the kernel android is based upon came way after mac os was made which ios is based on.

      • ah

        As if any other companies make their chips.Snapdragon’s,Tegra 4’s and Mediatek’s are seen in most android phones.If you say Samshit design Exynox,Apple also designs Apple A7’s.

      • PeterBlood

        Said like the doesn’t know SHIT 100% Ignoramus you proudly show yourself to be.

  • Shiny Ramirez

    Google may allow apple to have Google Play certification. More money for Google if they buy apps n’ such from Google play. If Google does not get money, they can still get people to become fond of Google and they may move over to a known Android phone maker. (Or they could move to Nexus)

  • ddd

    Steve Wozniak is stupidest person because his company is worst than android phones and apple is worstest company in the market. He thinks apple is better than android BULLSHIT. Android is trillion times better than shity apple.

    • ddd

      Iphone 6 will come out same specs previous iphone and same display from previous models. Iphone 6 design is same as previous models. Apple should bankrupt no matter what but android will kick apple no matter what.

      • Arcybiskup

        That was the shortest sum up of all iPhone 6 leaks ive ever seen.

      • PeterBlood

        You’ve got Apple beat by having a cliche bankrupt head. What a genuine imbecile. You are PRIME fanboy POS.

        I love how you like to pretend Android is better in any way. Or that Android phone updates aren’t similar (revisions of existing features). Except Apple has a finger print scanner (that granted still needs some software work) and 64 bit. Apple is pushing ahead while Android gets the slapdash treatment.

    • Brendon Brown

      I’m an Android fan, but ? The Great Woz stupid ? I dunno…

      • ah

        woz created personal computing.its mot called pc ‘cuz apple decided to have another name.

      • PeterBlood

        Pay no attention to the rambling ddd dummy zealot behind the curtain.

    • PeterBlood

      Stop saying the same stupid ignorant things over and over again moron! Apple kicks Android ass, end of story. Always will.

    • PeterBlood

      Wow look at this total fanboy retard GO!

  • Jarl

    Steve jobs will go thermo nuclear in his grave

    • Guest

      Hey dumb, more laggy plastic toy is coming soon.
      This time galaxy toilet, and galaxy toothbrush. :)d

      • ddd

        Go fuck yourself. You think apple is better than samsung. HELLLL NOOOO And apple will bankrupt then gay Tim Cook and Steve will be happy and android will be dominate no matter what.

        • PeterBlood

          I suggest you mate with yourself first, which I’m sure is the only sex you get anyway. 2/3rds of the 81% Android market share are essentially dumb no brand feature phones, not premium phones. Apple will kill where it counts in profit share. Last time I checked business was about MAKING money not bragging rights for every low profit permutation of an inferior fragmented mobile OS.

          Apple will succeed in global premium devices and profit share as the rising U.S. and elsewhere global iPhone market share indicate. Wait’ll the larger iPhones & iPads hit the market later this year, among other new product lines. I look forward to seeing you stand there with your jaw on the ground and wondering “Wha’ happened?”.

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          • colin

            Apple is for simple people with money. You don’t need to know anything to use it. Like old people or dumb people. It’s good for old and dumb. People buy iPhone to look like they have knowledge so they capable to use modern phone. You say “Apple invented touch phones” I say “Android will take it from here”. Since Steve Jobs is dead. There will be no more Apple as you know it. I hope you will be able to say what you said after next five years. Nokia and Motorola should be a lesson where pride and comfort can lead you to.

          • PeterBlood

            Apple is well designed stuff for everyone. Why does tech have to be needlessly complex designed for engineers and geeks? That’s a real weakness. Android is not taking anything anywhere. Apple’s ecosystem and profits are king in quality and for good reason.

            That shows how little you know about Apple culture. Jobs even instituted Apple University to make sure the lessons he taught would live on without him. It’s ingrained there, business lessons that make sense and realizing sometimes you have to cannibalize yourself to move on and make something great (something Microsoft has failed to learn holding onto Windows like a life saver from the Titanic). Bottom line? Don’t underestimate Apple at your peril. Steve Jobs didn’t do the things he did alone and he would be the first to admit it.

            Don’t be so proud of Google either. Their future is anything but assured. My money is literally on Apple for the long haul. Just wait until larger iPhones sell later this year and mass defections begin. Already 2/3rds of the 81% worldwide Android market share are dumb phones Google doesn’t make money on nor do people buy apps for. These no brand phones only substituted a simple Android OS for Symbian.

            Google doesn’t make phones anymore and their only meaningful (profitable) business remains search advertising. The rest of Google’s “diversified” products are comprised of perpetual betas, oddities, and unicorn tears.

  • joser116

    Of course Google would be willing to give Apple devices Google Play certification; it’s not quite an arse like Apple.

    • Caleb Wright

      Apple sued samsung for making a device that looked like theirs so to say hey can we make a android is a fucking stab in the back

      • ddd

        Google and samsung will kick Gay Tim cook and steve ASS and apple should bankrupt.

        • PeterBlood

          So you’re also loathsomely homophobic too? Apple won’t and can’t bankrupt and will continue providing the other morally bankrupt copying companies you worship with examples of how to do it right. Making mountains of cash in their wake.

          You owe Apple so much (which you will of course disingenuously deny in your history rewriting biased total dufus way) so go sit in the your corner, put on your Dunce Cap and STFU ultra-maroon. Let the adults talk here.

      • smokebomb

        Not sure how it’s a stab in the back when they sued Samsung and not Google.

      • joser116

        Wouldn’t a stab in the back would be AFTER they become friends? The company that DID stab Google in the back is Sony for joining that consortium that sued Google. I think that’s what you would call stabbing in the back. I think if Apple asked Google if they could make a Google Apps certified Android phone, then they would happily let them.

  • wezi427

    Never going to happen. Competition is a good thing, helps innovation.

  • Groud Frank

    “That said, we can’t imagine Google would be all that willing to hand over Google Play certification to such a product.” I disagree. I think they will embrace it as long as it is not a forked version. It would be a MAJOR endorsement for the platform. As much as I dislike Apple, as a technologist I have to admit that the idea is interesting but I have to agree with Maharaja. I’d rather the competitive environment as it deters Google from resting on their laurels.

    • AA :P

      “it deters Google from resting on their laurels”
      google has been continuously pushing the envelope since they started out! but yeah nothing like good ol’ competition. however, given how apple has disproportionate state support for its bogus patents, i’d love to see them with the same marketshare.

    • Caleb Wright

      Ok that is like PS4 and Xbox saying hey lets just share everything fuck no

  • Arcybiskup

    Troll of the week lol

  • TrollToTheRom

    LOL who needs Google Play certification, if CyanogenMod is create a rom for it and slap in Paranoid Android 0-Day GApps … BOOM ! :3

  • ddd

    Steve Wozniak is stupidest person because he can do like Google. Apple can’t do nothing no matter what. Apple is far behind android and apple is worst company in the market. Android is trillion times better than Apple in the market. All he is saying BULLSHIT.

    • PeterBlood

      No but everything you’re saying is just the dribbled drivel of King of the Village Idiots. Stop embarrassing yourself. Low IQ BS is not something you should be brandishing about so blatantly.

      Apple IS triumphing in about every way over Android except for a race to the bottom gutter cheap phone. Android also has 99% of all mobile malware. As one reviewer said about Android:

      1. Bugs and non-responsiveness
      2. Not as smooth as iOS
      3. Too many choices
      4. Feels like Windows: Android is in a sense to the iPhone what the PC is to the Mac. It’s the less sleek, more troublesome option that has a lot of bells and whistles, but tends to leave people more frustrated and laden with bugs and technical issues.

      You have ZERO to be proud about, in fact you look a fool attracted by mere buggy smoke, mirrors and pretty lights. Everyone is entitled to their choice however. You like it, run with it, just stop saying Android is anything but a problematic ecosystem.

  • Balraj

    Stupidest idea or advice..lol
    I laughed reading the title…
    IPhone Will get better this year.only thing apple can do is make low end device
    s but not like iPhone 5c !!!
    Android is Good but oem are maxing out on everything year on year
    I just can’t imagine the specs of phones in 2015 !!!!

  • Jonathan Sosa

    Wozniak and steve are the only sensible people from apple, but Woz still one ups him.

  • Brendon Brown

    If this strategical move is ever addressed, then this alone could pretty much result in peace of the patents?

  • monkey god

    I know it sounds ludicrous and it probably won’t happen, but if someone had told you 10 years ago that Apple would sell a Mac capable of running Windows, you would probably think it sounds crazy as well. If the OS market changes substantially with iOS ever becoming a small minority (such as with MAC OS X), then it would probably be wise to go to the route of something like bootcampable iPhones (but not dedicated Android devices). As it is right now, iOS makes too much money for Apple with its appstore still going strong.

    • joser116

      It’s worth mentioning that Steve Jobs once wanted the Sony Vaio to run OS X.

    • ah

      Apple makes adequate revenue of Macintoshes to survive.They’ll do the same of iphones which are also overpriced.Despite overpricing Apple still sells well(51m iphones in last quarter,2013) which simply goes onto show that people believe and prefer high-quality Apple over low-quality plastiky Samshit.And don’t say it’s Apple’s marketing,Samshit spends $900m more than Apple on marketing.People don’t mind spending on good quality.

  • Blowntoaster

    If Apple signs a 10 year deal with Google, and stops suing android OEMs then yes, it might work.

  • AA :P

    I love Steve Woz, he’s the only sane guy around in cupertino

  • Valtheus

    Woz is known for his “different” way of thinking. But i cannot see this happening and i think Apple is already happy where they are right now.

  • lzr68

    Look I prefer android. Apple does make great hardware with very good quality control in the manufacturing process. If they kept the same quality and build standard on an android device I would definitely consider it against the competition next time I upgrade

  • abazigal

    His suggestion makes practically zero sense.

    One main reason why Apple is able to charge the prices it does their their iPhones (and a key reason why people continue to flock to them in droves) is because iOS is restricted solely to Apple devices. So if you want the unique iOS user experience, you pretty much have to go with an iPhone (and pony up the cash).

    An Android device by Apple would simply run into the same problems plaguing HTC, namely, an inability to sufficiently differentiate their product from the rest of the competition. Consider that all Android phones basically run the same apps, sport the same OS, and support the same Google services. This leaves hardware as the sole differentiator (and it’s not really a very strong one, in that it alone won’t be enough to entice people to pay high prices for it).

    Likewise, an Android device would lack many of the strengths which make Apple products unique Apple, such as access to the IOS app store and integration with their services like iMessage, FaceTime and iCloud.

    I see any such attempt as an unmitigated disaster to Apple’s hard-earned brand name.

    • Sean Karpa

      This has the be one of the truest post I have seen on a solely Android website, given that this post is about Apple.

    • ah

      Non-jailbroken ios still doesn’t have any virus.Apple iphone users get more updates with little compromise to operating system performance.

  • Jack Jennings

    ‘Android has ate away at their global marketshare’?? Come on now, my grammar sense has gone off the scale.

    • Caleb Wright

      But it is true apple is most popular in america and austrialla and even in those countries android still has the lead I sell phones for verizon I sell more androids then Iphones. I highly doubt this will happen not to mention I will hate apple even more

      • Jack Jennings

        I’m afraid you’ve missed the point of my post…

      • Sean Karpa

        Glad all statistics in your life reflect the statistics of an entire country.

  • Caleb Wright

    If apple makes a android I would help them sue apple so hard core they would be sucking apllesuace through a straw becuase I love android and for apple to make a android device defaces android is a disgrace.

  • Jason Yuen

    It’s much more likely they would acquire another company and have it operate independently from the main Apple business. HTC looks like a prime candidate for Apple to acquire IF they ever think of making an Android phone. That won’t happen in the foreseeable future because that would piss off shareholders and hurt the company. Nothing short of an overwhelming success would justify an iDroid device.

  • grayson360

    Currently the only thing keeping me on android is the ecosystem I’ve enthralled myself in. I love the thinned of my friends iPhones and how they feel in hand but I can’t stand iOS. I would buy this in an instance. Especially since it would be one device, probably be an almost nexus type of user experience and would receive updates without issues. Now I have a G2 and I’ve had many android phones so I wouldn’t be able to downsize but just the thought would be awesome. Oh well. Its not just stopping war to create peace, its stopping all negativity and just cooperate. It’ll never happen :)…… :l……. :(….. :'(…… D':

  • mustbepbs

    If Apple could improve upon what Motorola did with the Moto X and the optimization, I’d be all for it. Google just wants money, they’d totally be willing to take some from Apple in this fashion.

    • ah

      ios is optimized

      • mustbepbs

        …?

        What does that have to do with anything?

  • ddd

    Steve wozniak is stupidest person because he wants to catch up google. He can’t do shit and his company is far far behind from google. Apple is worst company in the market but android is trillion times better than apple. All he says BULLSHIT. Apple will be bankrupt then he will be happy and android will be dominate.

    • Sean Karpa

      I am not sure I could possibly scan the internet and find such a short, opinionated, and straight up fan-boy comment. Your post is purely stupid, sorry. That said, Apple will never use Android.
      Hard to go bankrupt when you are stilling on 100+ billion.
      Additionally, I for one like both iOS, Android 4.X, Windows 7, OS X is alright, and windows XP. All have their merits and draws backs.

      Coming from a Windows 7 user, an iPhone user, and a 2014 Galaxy Note 10.1 user (although the Touch-wiz can be lagged, I don’t pick on Android for that).

      • joser116

        Finally, an iOS user who is not biased.

    • ah

      Apple has enough money to buy Google.

      • PeterBlood

        Actually Google’s market cap is gaining fast getting close to Exxon’s and Apple’s thanks to it’s outrageously inflated stock price. It will come down crashing at some point.

    • PeterBlood

      Obviously YOU’RE bankrupt of original writing ideas and living in a van down by the river, wearing a hairnet in your day job. A genuine dufus.

  • iHuman

    this guy must be crazy

  • PeterBlood

    Proof that Woz was not the brains of the Apple outfit. An Idiot Savant who knew how to build technology but not anything else. At his heart just a geek and as such fickle as the day is long. No way this will EVER happen.

  • SEAP

    Google is an ad company. If their competition decides to use their platform with the Google Services, they would certainly accept it with a huge smile in their faces. But, lets be honest, that would never happen, or at least hell would freeze over first.