Qualcomm announces Snapdragon 805: 2.5GHz, Adreno 420 GPU with 4K display support

November 20, 2013

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    Qualcomm just took the veil off its latest high-performance system on a chip, the Snapdragon 805, combining the fastest mobile CPU ever with the new Adreno 420 GPU.

    The Snapdragon 805 is equipped with a quad-core Krait 450 CPU clocked at 2.5GHz, 200MHz more than the previous leader, the Snapdragon 800. Moreover, Qualcomm doubled memory bandwidth support to a maximum of 25.6 GB/second, compared to the 12.8GB/second on the Snapdragon 800.

    Snapdragon 805: Krait 450 CPU Adreno 420 GPU Ultra HD

    Graphics capabilities are significantly improved, with added support for hardware tessellation and geometry shaders, as well as 4K (Ultra HD) rendering. In fact, Qualcomm bills the Snapdragon 805 as “the first end-to-end Ultra HD solution”, with concurrent 4K support for both display and TV output. This means devices equipped with the 805 will be able to play back video recorded at 4K at its native resolution. The Adreno 420 GPU is supposedly 40 percent more powerful than the Adreno 330 on the Snapdragon 800.

    On the connectivity side, the Snapdragon 805 will integrate either a Gobi MDM9x25 or a Gobi MDM9x35 modem. The former was announced earlier this year and is capable of LTE carrier aggregation and up to 150Mbps LTE 4 download peak rates, while the latter boasts download speeds of up to 300Mbps. On the WiFi front, there’s a 2-stream dual-band Qualcomm Vive 802.11ac chip that should be able to stream 4K video without breaking a sweat.

    According to Qualcomm, devices running on Snapdragon 805 will benefit from another industry first, Gpixel/second throughput camera interface, which should ensure faster camera operation and more advanced real-time image processing.

    Advanced sensor integration is one of the hot trends in smartphones this year, and the Snapdragon 805 will shine in this department too. The new SoC is the “first mobile processor with advanced, low-power, integrated sensor processing, enabled by its custom DSP, designed to deliver a wide range of sensor-enabled mobile experiences”.

    Qualcomm says it already started sampling the 805 to partners, with the first devices expected in the first half of next year. We recently heard about a CyanogenMod device running on a mystery 2.5GHz 8974AC processor that’s very likely the Snapdragon 805. The first manufacturer to announce a device running on 8974AC will be the Chinese company Gionee on November 26.

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    • leomax999

      No 64bit this time around.

      • Siralf

        Could anyone explain me the advantage of 64bit processing over 32bit?

        • Shark Bait

          extended address space, which means it can access more memory at any one time. Makes memory intensive applications like Photoshop and games run quicker

          • Siralf

            Thanx ; )

          • sluflyer06

            There aren’t even any games for PC that use enough RAM to need the address space, in fact very few games for PC are even 64bit (and the ones that are, don’t need it, the most I’ve ever seen big title games use is about 1.2-1.5GB of ram.) because there’s no advantage.

            • Amadeus Klein

              Right now 64bit is more about available memory (i.e. Multitasking) on a 32 bit CPU you can burn through your ram limitations quite fast while running multiple programs at once, this is true on both smartphones and PCs…

              As an example I run at about a 6-10GB load on my RAM running 32 bit media programs on my PC… If that was done on a 32bit CPU it would max out long before each program got the RAM it wanted to run… This benefit means I can stream media to all my home TVs and still play games on max settings without issues while still having the computer do other things….

              Until programs more programs are created (smartphone or PC) to utilize 64bit architecture the major benefit is better multitasking….

          • jbrandonf

            Faster startup speed on certain games..got it. Can we trade this in for better battery life now please?

            • Shark Bait

              I wish!!! Battery has lagged behind processor, display and camera for so long now.

              Companys need to invest in battery technology now

        • Ricochet

          Could use 4GB of RAM or more.

        • Groud Frank

          The main benefit is to overcome the RAM limitations of 32 bit architecture, which is limited 4 GB of RAM. I am over simplifying thing here but to make a long story sshort, more RAM makes phones faster. 64 bit processors in smartphones today are totally unnecessary and will provide little to no benefit as the vast majority of phones use 2 GB of RAM or less and most Android apps are only optimised for 32 bit architecture. A few like the Note 3 use 3 GB RAM and it still doesn’t push the boundaries of the 32 bit system. Before using more than 4 GB RAM to we have to address power consumption issues, battery life issues, battery size issues, optimization issues, etc.

    • Siralf

      Hope Nexus 10 have this cpu

    • Balraj

      Gionee is also in India :-D

      • dodz

        also here in philippines =)

      • Gourav Mopidevi

        ya

    • KBrown

      Would be nice for the Galaxy Note 3+ in combinatie with the Sport ban. :)

      http://www.note3kopen.nl

    • Grman Rodriguez

      May I say Qualcomm is the best smartphone SoC maker?

      • cycad007

        The title may actually belong to Apple. Too bad they only make chips for themselves.

        • Vito Lee

          Based on Anandtech’s analysis of the A7 that may be true. The cores that Apple designed can do so much more with less. Imagine if they were set up in a quad-core configuration and higher clockspeeds. As much as I love Android, there is no doubt about Apple’s engineering prowess. Perhaps Samsung’s own CPU designs will “borrow” from Apple XD. I mean they did help Apple fab them.

          • APai

            “The cores that Apple designed can do so much more with less”
            so why aren’t their chips doing more while consuming less battery ? they seem to have the same battery life – everyone i know who owns an iphone ALWAYS complains about battery life, just like everyone else with their phones.

            so if they do twice as good, why cant they be twice as better with battery life as well ?

            • Andre

              They actually are, but their battery is smaller…

            • APai

              I highly doubt it. the 5s has a 1560mah battery roundabout. most android flagships have around 2000mah battery. let me give you the example of xperia z1 – it has a 3000mah battery. it handles it exactly like how the battery supports it – music playback time, stand by time, talktime etc. however the endurance time is roughly the same – but the z1 has a larger screen, fhd and more pixels to drive and hence exactly the same as iphone. they might have been optimized more though, after all they just have one model to take care of.

              but the important thing is apple is not doing any magic here.

        • D’Ander McSullivan

          Apple doesn’t make their own SoCs by themselves, you know.

        • Grman Rodriguez

          Apple chips will always show more performance than Qualcomm chips, because not only does Apple control de chip but also the OS, there for it´s the ultimate optimization. However, not only does Qualcomm achieve so similar results dispite that, but also their chips have features like 4K support, GPixels for camera proccessing, and it just shows how Qualcomm is so innovative. If i were rich I’d invest in them.

          • Matthew Plewa

            I hate when people down vote the truth….

          • Gator352

            Apple does not make their own chips. They design them like ARM does to a certain degree, but Samsung made the new SoC in the 5s. As far as optimization, sure, it’s more optimized than Android but you know what? There’s nothing to the iPhone. Pretty icons that swoop in with rows and rows of icons. Android does 3 times the amount of number crunching due to the customizability that’s given to the user. So I say Qualcomm can keep up with Apple and/or Samsung.

            • Farbod

              You realize people do more than scroll through pages on their phones, right?

            • Gator352

              Well yes, like talk. And text. Maybe play a game also. But watch a video…and write an email…at the same time…on the same screen. My note 3 can do that with it’s S800…can iPhone do that? Nope.

            • Farbod

              I’m not saying that the Note 3 can’t do that, but theres no point to it. why would i want to watch a video while writing an email? iPhone can’t do it because the software doesn’t allow it. it does have the processing power however to do it, my iPad with the a5 chip can run a few programs at the same time (including games) on the same screen with a jailbreak tweak called quasar. so it’s not a matter of processing power.

            • Wes

              I disagree, I think the iPhone would have a hard time doing it. It’s only got 1 Gig of Ram. No matter how fast the phone is there’s no way it can run multiple apps on the screen at the same time, or at least it would have a hard time.

            • Farbod

              so would you care to explain how my iPad with the a5 did it?

        • venorme

          Apple produces no chips as of now. All SOC they have used are either Samsung or some other minor company. They only “plan” to produce chips for next generation of Iphones

    • Jack Parker

      Although i love having a device that has a higher clock speed then my computer, we dont need phones with speeds over 1.5ghz really, The nexus 4 running at 1ghz was fast enough, and anything more is just a battery killer :(

      • NeedName

        the smartphone is the new PC. . .

        • APai

          can’t wait for it to get commoditized and we get past silly fanclubs. like, no one asks which PC you own :)

      • bjorn6

        with zero lemon making 10,000 Mah battery for the note 3 that should not be a problem.

        • Jack Parker

          I dont like massive devices XD its why i want a huawei ascend p6

          • bjorn6

            You lack what you like maybe a Motorola X, and Nice and small.

      • http://www.droidzone.ro/ Adi

        AFAIK the Snapdragon 800 in the Nexus 5, running at 2.3GHz, consumes less battery than the S4 Pro in the Nexus 4 running at 1.5.

    • B3nlok

      40 percent doesnt sound that much. But then you see adreno 330 scores 23-26 fps in gfx bench 2.7, which is quite a bit more than intel hd 2000 igpu (18-22 fps). Adreno 420 should be around 32-36 fps, which puts it in hd 3000 levels, more than enough to run AAA games like Crysis at 30 fps 720p.

      • Grman Rodriguez

        What is AAA?

        • MasterMuffin

          Really high quality game like Crysis or Battlefield

        • thartist

          “Triple A” games, like, high-caliber.

      • jusephe

        That is nice, but we live in the world of ppi wars. Next year 1440×2560 on ~5 inch smartphone will be standard ( about 78 % more pixels) and this GPU is only 40% faster and so next gen phones with QHD screen and 805 processor will have approximately 27% worser graphics performance than this year 1080 p flagships while offering unnoticeable increase in sharpness.

        • Leonardo Rojas

          Yes, that’s why the Moto X and the Xperia ZR are the best gaming and all purpose smartphones. 720p, just the ideal real resolution.

    • Vito Lee

      Could this be the 8974AC that was rumored to be in the CM phone…

    • renz

      Any word on what process node this new SoC will be based on? I bet it is still on 28nm. This chip most likely go head to head with Tegra 5 if they come out in the first half of 2014.

      • Ricochet

        Correct, It’s 28nm.

    • D’Ander McSullivan

      Brace yourselves. Silly 4K screens on 5″ smartphones are coming.

      • clementi

        If they can project that 4k to the wall, it wont be silly…

        • D’Ander McSullivan

          It’d still be silly. You don’t need a 4K screen to project 4K to the wall. The projector beam needs to support 4K, the rest is software-wise.

    • SeraZR™

      4X Battery paleeez!

    • Amine Elouakil

      The next year HTC One SoC and probably many other high ends such as the S5

    • George Av

      wouldn’t mind a s805 in my next phone :)

    • sluflyer06

      Great a SoC that will throttle even faster than the 800 does. You guys should realize this stuff is pointless, we’re already at the point where within couple minutes of gaming your down to about 1.2ghz.

      They need to somehow solve the heat problem first, instead of making it worse.

      • Al Bowering

        This is why the HTC one and one s are actually great designs. With the battery non removable and against the display it leaves the soc next to the aluminum back. Sure they get warmer to the touch faster but it’s the best cooling design right now that keeps it from throttling. Also as you hold it the blood circulating in your hand cools the aluminium.

      • B3nlok

        Given that most 3d games out there are GPU bound, as long as the throttle hits only the CPU cores and not the GPU, the performance lost should be quite negligible.

        • sluflyer06

          Unfortunately throttling is not limited to CPU, frame rates drop substancially as throttling begins even more proportionally than beacuse of teh CPU, you’ll notice this beacuse as throttling steepens the CPU load drops indicating the framerate is even more limited by GPU than it was, otherwise you’d see CPU load increase as its clockspeed shrank. The entire system throttles, even the backlight starts drops eventually (somethign seen on multiple phones now)

          • B3nlok

            Yes, I know that throttling affects the whole system. My comment was more like a sugestion of what could be done to mitigate the performance issue in gaming scenarios, sort of like an intelligent throttling.

    • Leonardo Rojas

      I wonder if this SoC will finally be able to properly playback 10bit 1080p videos…

    • Leonardo Rojas

      It’d be silly if I kept my hopes high for a device with 720p resolution? Then I can be quite sure they’ll build 1080p ones, these will surely be the best for me and not beyond that. By I’dprefer 720p, and with not more than 400dpi. The exaggerated 480dpi on my ZL’s screen must be taxing on processing power to the GPU, unnecessarily. I think.

    • Tom_Slaapstad

      Nothing about better battery consumption. Hmmm I’m concerned. Is the die smaller -that would help at least (I am a little ignorant in the chip department)

    • porange

      my poo is brown

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