A new Nexus 5 report claims that the phone will indeed have two storage options, but that it won’t have two battery versions, (as some of the earlier rumors said) when it will be launched later this month.
The Nexus 5 is hardly a secret anymore – especially after having been listed on the Google Play Store the other day, at which point its press render was also found (see above) – but there still are things about it that aren’t clear, most of them related to its launch.
We have no idea when the device will be unveiled and launched (although there’s apparently an event scheduled for October 24 that may or may not have something to do with new Nexus devices), we don’t know in how many color versions it will be available (although a white version is also rumored to joined the black one), we don’t know how many storage options there will be (although the 16GB model has been confirmed yesterday), and then there’s that rumor saying that the alleged 32GB Nexus 5 version will have a bigger battery than the 16GB model.
Thanks to an insider, Tutto Android can apparently confirm that the handset will be available in 16GB and 32GB versions, something that we suspected all along. Obviously, there won’t be support for microSD storage expansion.
There won’t be an 8GB model of the phone, but that was pretty much a given considering that prices for the Nexus 5 start at $349 according to Google’s own website – and that’s the price for the 16GB model.
The same publication also says that both devices will have the same battery inside, a 2300mAh unit, and that the device should be released at the end of October, although a clear launch date is not given.
While this isn’t coming officially from Google or LG, it certainly sounds more than plausible, but we’ll be back with updates once we have them.
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2300mAh for 5-inch 1080p with S800 SOC? Seriously Google? Welcome to 2014..!
i was gonna type the same comment, 2300 mAh with that device is a disappointment really
The Moto X has a 2100 mAh battery.
It has the X8 processing system meant to save battery, not a Snapdragon 800 and a larger 1080P screen.
Please don’t compare Moto shit to the god among phone.
Actually the Moto X has a 2,200mAh battery. Also, the screen is the biggest battery hog on ANY phone and the Moto X has a much more power efficient screen. It is 4.7″ and most importantly it is a 720p AMOLED screen rather than the power hungry 1080p IPS LCD.
Quality vs power savings. The two are forever diametrically opposed.
Remember the Galaxy Nexus? That was an AMOLED screen too, hence the deep blacks. Moto X isn’t suddenly special just because it’s using AMOLED tech.
Put in a decent sized battery. Problem solved. I didn’t have a Galaxy Nexus but it only had a 1,750mAh battery so that would explain a big part of it. The Moto X has a 25% bigger battery than the Galaxy Nexus and it’s battery life, although likely better than what the Nexus 5 is going to provide because of the screen, isn’t even all that impressive.
Actually that’s a common misconception oled displays aren’t really That much better at conserving battery life or lcds.
That was helpful, thanks!
I never thought I’d say this, but with the Nexus 5, I could live with a shitty battery. It’s extremely affordable, lightning fast and freaking sexy!
maybe the snapdragon 800 with 4.4 is better on battery, i dont know though
Maybe, but not likely
Rumors about Android 4.4 allege that it may be less system-intensive. Also, the Snapdragon 800 does improve on power management. I hope that 4.4 works better, because that would give my Galaxy Tab a nice speed bump
Why are people still crying over the battery size? Just because a device as a 3000mAh battery doesn’t always equate to great battery life. Likewise, 2300mAh doesn’t not necessarily mean the battery life will be crap. KitKat will likely include battery management improvements and nexi are usually very well optimised with the OS.
Sure the battery life won’t be a hie-hard but it should be adequate for a device priced at £349 of contract
Honestly can we stop bs’n each other. We always say ‘battery size doesn’t matter” & “8mp is all we need.” 13mp cameras on Android devices looks better majority of the timetime compared to the 8mp. & a bigger battery last longer the majority of the time.
New processors and new OS updates are always suppose to improve battery life.
People are complaining because they want better life than the Nexus 4.
Why don’t people understand that the SCREEN is the biggest power hog on ANY phone. 1080p uses lots of power because of how hard the GPU has to work to render all the extra pixels. LCDs are big power hogs due to the always on back light. IPS displays are the worst among all LCDs in terms of power usage. A 2,300mAh might be great for stand by times but not for screen on times.
If you were talking about the largest screens on the market today,
paired with a 3000mAh battery, well of course the battery life isn’t
great. 5″ screen + 3000mAh + moderate usage = mediocre uptime.
People want a smartphone which lasts more than 1-2 days. It is embarrassing to see a flip phone user today, smugly tell us that he hasn’t charged for *weeks*.
MUGEN offers 5000mAh batteries. More battery life means more screen uptime, period. By far the larger consumer of battery is the screen, full stop. KitKat will help, but only do so much. Hibernating/freezing/terminating processes will help only so much.
Now try pairing a smaller screen with an enormous battery. There’s a very big difference. The larger the screen size, so too should the battery expand by leaps and bounds, not by piddly baby steps.
1-2 days? Hell, I’d be happy with 16 hours of charger with 4-5 hours screen on time, which I consider as “moderate” usage. That wouldn’t be great by any means but it would be acceptable
Interesting XDA thread about this that everybody should read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483794
This should be the top voted comment -.-’
People, please remember that there is supposed to be a great improvement on the software side. Better Kernel, less memory usage, etc. Maybe, just maybe, a 2300mAh will behave like a 3000mAh with 4.4 on it.
It’s not because you have a bigger gas tank that you can achieve better mileage on a car. Same goes here.
Really like the analogy at the end but when it comes to cars they typically are more fuel efficient because of the engine. In this case the Nexus has a Mustang engine, just like the Galaxy note 3 and G2. Snapdragon 800 plus 1080 p screen is gonna consume juice no matter how optimized the Kernel is.
I promise you, for the exact same phone, the 3000mAh will last longer than a 2300mAh, so I want a 3000mAh, pretty simple really…
The problem with your argument is that software doesn’t make nearly as much of a difference to battery life as the screen does. A 1080p IPS LCD will destroy a 2,300mAh battery in no time.
2300?? Deal breaker
2300mAh? My Nexus ride is over. Hello Moto X :-/
Awesome one less person to get one. Thx u sir. Lol.
Did Dennis pay you to write this stupid comment? :D
you do realize that the Moto X has a smaller battery than the Nexus 5′s alleged size?
And the Moto X will have better battery life
not necessarily… if KitKat has better power management and possibly lighter “weight,” it could have just as good battery life
True…but when the X gets KitKat will also improve
hope so. It still has yet to get 4.3 (which it should have shipped with in the first place)
I see this line regurgitated endlessly on the net but where are people getting this information? I’ve get to come across any solid evidence that KitKat has magical battery saving code in it.
The said the same thing out the Nexus 4 and Jelly Bean but the Nexus 4 had pretty bad battery life.
not the case.
Yes but it’s only 100mAh smaller and something that people don’t seem to understand is that the biggest power usage on any phone is the screen. In terms of power usage 4.7″ > 5″. 720p > 1080p. AMOLED > LCD and AMOLED >>>>> IPS LCD.
Amoled vs LCD is subjective. Brighter color themes and white backgrounds during web browsing will drain Amoled significantly faster than LCD. Amoled comes out ahead if there’s a lot of black on screen. Due to my usage habits, LCD is better and “consistent” for me.
AMOLED is absolutely better for blacks. LCD being better for lots of white might be true(although I’d say it’s still debatable). However, on average, AMOLED is much better overall on power usage.
damn you are one ugly ass indian
maybe battery optimization is insane on N5 :) I hope so atleast…otherwise im buying the LG G2
For twice as much?
Well id rather have a phone i can USE ALL DAY than a phone that i need to plugin the wall to charge all the time.
Are you one of the kiddies who plays games all day long and then bitches about battery life? LOL
Very likely, but don’t forget web browsing and texting.
He doesn’t sound like he wants a fast smartphone just to put it in the pocket all the time.
You can get the LG G2 on a contract for $200. If I could get a Nexus phone on contract for even cheaper I would totally do it. The real problem with the G2 is the terrible software. With the 3,000mAh battery and GRAM the battery life is quite good.
That’s true, but bear in mind that if the N5 comes out for ~$350, that easily trumps the LG G2 $200 + 3 year contract any day, especially with the recent BYOD prices the carriers are offering now.
You battery downers crack me up. I have the DROID DNA with an even smaller battery and more inefficient processor and battery life is fine.
Same here. The HTC one holds fine with the “puny” battery
my Aunty Mila recently got Audi Q5 Hybrid by working parttime from a
macbook… here are the findings Jam20.ℂom
Total time off charger? Screen on time?
my HTC one lasts a week on a single charge.
Just because YOU say battery life is “fine” doesn’t mean it is. It just means we have a very different opinion on what “fine” means. If a phone can’t last 15 hours off the charger with like 4 hours of screen on time then as far as I am concerned it isn’t “fine”.
I didn’t say that it was perfect, or for everyone. But this whole “the world is going to end over the 2300 battery” thing is just silly.
The worst part is that in every other way this phone seems great. A true stock Google experience without having to mess around with rooting and custom ROMs is awesome. It’s a shame that battery life has to be sacrificed to get it.
Of course the world isn’t going to end(although if you need it in an emergency and the battery is dead after 2/3 of a day it could be the end of the world) but if I am going to be paying several hundred dollars for a phone I expect to be able to use it for more than just 2/3 of the day. I don’t know about you but many people(including myself) aren’t always sitting by a wall outlet all day. I have a desk job where I AM near a power source but there are LOTS of times where I’m not and stopping to charge isn’t something I want to have to worry about. I want to be able to take my phone off the charger in the morning and just go without the need to plug in until I go to bed.
I’m not even asking for perfect. Just decent. If I’m paying several hundred dollars shouldn’t I expect decent to good battery life? Is it really fair to pay all that money and settle for crap battery life? You might be able to charge several times during the day EVERYDAY. Getting 8 hours off the charger with 1-2 hours of screen on time might be fine for you. For many it isn’t.
Depends entirely on how u use ur phone..some ppl spend more time on their phone doing a myraid of things than others. Also if u owned the N4 and happen to be one of the unlucky ones like myself with what I think is a defective battery…u will probably change ur tune and consider battery capacity one of ur top specs.
haha.. 2300..getting LG for sure
So you’re getting this phone? :D
I’m hearing Nexus 5 $450 32gb. I’m on it. Will have this phone for minimum 3 years.
The 16GB said $350 right on Google’s site, and considering past pricing practices by Google I’d doubt it’s $450. It’s probably $400.
$400-$450 is awesome price for the 32gb nexus 5. I agree.
I just hope they manufacture enough. I’m sure they’re monitoring the enthusiasm and anticipation for this phone and it would be foolish of them to not have supply meet demand.
Yeah, considering what happened with the nexus 4 they should have learned from their mistakes by now.
the 2300mah will be fine. the s800 uses less power and 4.4 kitkat and the better kernel will probably be helping that too.
The Nexus 5 also has a power hogging 5″ 1080p IPS LCD screen. In terms of power usage that is pretty much the worst thing you can have. Sure the better CPU, 4.4 and new kernel will help but they are nothing compared to the screen. I expect the stand by times to be pretty good but screen on time will kill it fast. Screens take more power than any other part in the phone by a huge margin.
That screen is going to tear that battery apart. I thought I read that the battery tests said it had worse battery life than the Nexus 4…
although i agree the battery capacity should be more, i really believe that the battery life will be average, which i’d put up with.
I had pretty much the same reaction when I first found out about the battery.
Still an amazing device but definitely sticking with my G2. I charge my phone every two days.. All I need now is CM10.2
more like CyanogenMod 11, when it comes out
Please Google, release the Nexus 5 already…so I can get on with my life and stop reading these articles…..
My Uncle Jacob got a year 2013 Audi TT RS Coupe
by working part time online. imp source Jam20.ℂom
I hope you uncle Jacob crash his Audi and dies within
I hope you uncle Jacob crashes his Audi and dies within
ill say it…
for those that have an extensive music collection this phone is useless to us. I have 58 gigs in music on my 64 gig card so a phone with no micro sd is a totally backwards move in technology. what is the point in having a phone that will fill up in content so fast? sorry google…you lost my money with such an oversight
i reckon they have never had your money so why comment? what did you expect?
i commented to basically point out a shortfall in a supposed flagship device. wasn’t aware i had to get approval to express thought.
There’s this new technology, I think its called streaming and I do believe it will solve your quandary for the most part. And has already been said, you’ve obviously never been a Nexus customer and its been made pretty clear for a long time that Nexus devices do not get SD.
yes i had the first nexus..it was given to me..i quickly got rid of it. and im aware of the crazy thing called streaming. i dont want to stream my music 9 hours a a days and eat my 6 gig data plan. thanks for thinking you know so much about me though
…buy a deferent phone and stop reading about nexus devices?
thanks o wise one. ill read what i want. I take interest in a lot of things i may never buy. i keep tabs on the nexus devices in hopes one day they get the picture. thanks for the diFFerent perspective though
I have a pretty nice music collection as well, but I only keep about 10GB of it on my phone’s sd card… I think the 32GB Nexus will suffice for me
Get a T-Mobile acount with unlimited data and back all your music up to play musicmusic! Problem solved.
i am canadian….no unlimited data plans nor do we have google play yet. and frankly i dont want to stream music. i want to play it direct of my card
Why would you ever need that much music on one device? That’s just overkill smh
its not overkill at …i like to listen to my collection on shuffle alot and this way the same song doesn’t come around very often. plus i travel alot and like to have my collection at my side whenever i need.
But 58 gigs….20 gigs of music is more than a whole month of listening ..58 gigs is just excessive but to each his own that’s why I use Google music .
So you need over a month’s worth of listening with you at all times?
I completely agree with you on this. I think it’s so short-sighted of all the haters criticizing how YOU want to use YOUR devices. A microSD is a must for me as well, but for slightly different reasons. While I do store a lot of music on it, it is also used for backing up all my apps through Titanium, storing my favorite ROM files for the various emulators, movies, etc. So while I’m sure most of the users don’t give a damn about a microSD slot, there is still a percentage of the user base that does. I love everything about the Nexus devices (vanilla Android, the design, pricing) and so wish that I could have good use for one – but without a microSD slot it is a deal-breaker for me. Yes of course I go with other OEMs for this reason, but I always end up flashing AOSP ROMS onto those devices anyways since I absolutely loathe the vendor UI’s (TouchWiz, Sense, etc). It would have been nice to tap into a pure Android experience (have my cake) while ALSO carrying over the goodies from my old phone instantaneously via SD card (eating it too). At any rate I wish that they would have included this feature even though majority might not use it, there are still some that WOULD. Why EXCLUDE a helpful feature for the power users? And yes, I read about the Nexus devices because as I said, I love what they are and represent – I guess there is a part of me that secretly hopes that one of the articles will say “surprise – they’re including an SD slot in this one!” …. wishful thinking.
JUST RELEASE THE PHONE! No more teases, no more trolling with cryptic images – just release the phone Google and shut up about everything else until you do.
I love this phone. It looks awesome.
Stop complaining about the damn battery when you haven’t even gotten your paws on the device yet. Wait til you buy it, and then come and complain all you want if you still want to. All this theoretical back and forth is completely pointless.
You don’t need to actually use the phone to get a decent idea of what the battery life will be like. The 2015 Ford F150 isn’t out yet. I haven’t seen any reviews or MPG numbers. However, I still know that it isn’t going to get 40MPG.
Fuel efficiency and smartphone battery life are completely different things. Its easier to make a statement like that for a large heavy truck, but we don’t know how the new Android 4.4 manages battery life in concord with the processor and other components. We have multiple unknowns in this scenario so just cool it. We’ll find out soon enough what the battery life is like.
The point of the truck analogy was to show that even though MPG reports aren’t in for a vehicle that isn’t available yet we can be sure that it won’t get 40MPG because it is a large V8 engine. In terms of power usage the screen is really the engine of the phone. No matter how good the CPU, GPU(this can help indirectly), software, etc is the screen is still going to use more power than anything else. Why do you think stand by times on phone could easily be over a day with NO usage but once the screen is on you only get a couple of hours? It’s mostly because of the screen.
I’m not saying that the software or CPU won’t improve battery life to some point. It most likely will. Especially in stand by times.
All other hardware and software aside we are still looking at a 2,300mAh battery powering a 1920×1080 IPS LCD screen. Think of how much power is involved in refreshing all those pixels many times a second and running the back light. Also consider that a higher resolution has other impacts on battery life as well. Think about all the work the GPU has to do to render those 2 million pixels dozens of times every second.
Why do you think the GRAM used in the G2(which based on the service manual isn’t even in the Nexus 5) can make such a different in screen on time? It’s because the GPU doesn’t have to keep rendering those 2 million pixels.
By looking at the LG G2′s battery life we can start to get an idea of what the Nexus 5 will get for battery life.
Take the battery life of the G2(which is good but not even great) and make the battery 23% smaller(which, all other things being equal, would actually decrease battery life by MORE than 23% because of how batteries discharge) and remove the GRAM. The battery life differences would be HUGE. The only things the Nexus 5 can do to balance out the battery life are the slightly smaller screen and software optimizations. For the Nexus 5 to have “good” battery life Google would have to work a miracle in software optimizations.
I’ll probably buy the Nexus 5 out of curiosity but I’ll likely end up returning it or selling it on eBay after I see just how bad the battery life is.
As far as I am concerned if it doesn’t get 15-16 hours of off charger time AND ~4 hours of screen on time it’s pretty bad battery life. I don’t think that kind of battery life is asking all that much and I wouldn’t even consider that “heavy” usage. Thinking the Nexus 5 will get that kind of battery life is just wishful thinking.
I never want to have to worry about getting a full day of moderate usage ever again. I don’t want to have to make sure I am near a charger before 7pm or turn off all the features that make it a “smart” phone just to get through an entire day. I’ve had to deal with that on my Galaxy SII Skyrocket the entire time I have had it and I’ve had to be much more careful after the first 7 months when I got the ICS update and battery life had a huge drop.
Not sure what the hubbub is? All the reviews suggest that the G2 has great battery life with a slightly bigger screen (.25″) while running a bloated and less optimized version of android (4.2.2). So while the Nexus 5 is said to have a smaller battery (by 30%) I think it will post numbers that will leave people impressed.
2300mAh? Nahhhh…I think I’ll buy the “variant”, LG G2 with 3000 mAh ^^