Exclusive: Next-gen Nexus hardware to be unveiled in mid-October, Android L hits November 1st

by: Andrew GrushSeptember 23, 2014
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Just last week Paul O’ Brien mentioned a possible release date for the rumored HTC Nexus 9, October 16th. While he admitted the information came from an anonymous tipster, the Android developer is well respected and likely not to post up a date unless he has good reason to believe it. In short, his statement lended quite a bit of credence to the idea of a mid-October unveiling.

Looking for more details on the matter? Thanks to two different sources familiar with Google’s plans, we have learned that the HTC Nexus 9 will be unveiled on either October 15th or the 16th. Additionally there is mention of new phone hardware (possibly the rumored Moto Nexus?) and the unveiling of “a new software initiative”, which likely refers to Android L’s final release.

Thanks to two different sources familiar with Google’s plans, we have learned that the HTC Nexus 9 will be unveiled on either October 15th or the 16th

While Android L and new Nexus hardware will be shown off in mid-October, the final version of Android L won’t officially be available until November 1st, according to our sources. Keep in mind it’s unclear whether that’s when the latest Nexus hardware with Android L will be sold (or shipped?), when existing Nexus devices will get the update, or both. Either way, the wait for Android L and the next generation of the Nexus family appears to almost be over!

Even though we are rather confident of the validity of the information disclosed above, dates can change and even the most reliable intel can sometimes prove false — so speculation is still advised. We’ll be sure to keep you updated as we learn more, so be sure to stay tuned to Android Authority.

  • Qbancelli

    Really?
    Ok. I’m ready!

    • luka

      Whaaa fuck it, I’m gonna freeze myself!

      • Anonymousfella

        I’ll thaw you out when October ends :P

  • Technician

    Oh come on, 40 more days. My nexus 5 is hungry for some new dessert

    • AndroidBoss

      Damn your Nexus 5 must be diabetic. Make sure it gets a healthy diet.

      • Android Developer

        So L should be “low fat/sugar” ?

        • Technician

          That would be the best name they can use imo :D lolipop/lmp/liquorice pale in cimparison

          • Android Developer

            what’s lmp ?
            It looks like “Imp” ( not “L”, but “I” ).

          • Jack

            Imp= in my opinion

          • Android Developer

            oops, didn’t think about it.
            I usually see IMHO
            but why did you put it between the “/” ?

          • GuestII

            LMP = lemon merengue pie

          • Android Developer

            Oh, right, totally forgot about it.

          • smokebomb

            Didn’t know opinion started with a p :-D.

        • smokebomb

          L could stand for low fat lol.

    • Zach Mauch

      40 days? How are you doing your math? Oct 15th is 22 days from now and the 16th is 23.

      Edit: Do’h, Nov. 1st.

    • Luka Mlinar

      That’s nasty but i like it :D

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    • Ivan Budiutama

      My body is ready, also my wallet, I’ve been saving up for this because I know I’m not gonna regret it.

  • i saw a nex5 last nite with android l, and i cant freakin wait. anyone know about camera software improvements? i hate apple, but that new camera and software in that ip6 is amazing.

    • Michael Jones

      HDR+ on the Nexus 5 in Kitkat was an alpha version of the new camera API and improvements that L will bring. So I have high hopes for camera quality. It wont be as fast as the iPhone 6 probably but hopefully the quality is close.

      • Anonymousfella

        It’ll need Phase Detection AutoFocus to be as fast i6 or s5. I think quality would be close though…

      • John Doe

        Don’t forget that the Nexus5 is 1yr old!
        I think trying to do a comparison between the 2 is useless…

        • Michael Jones

          Until a nexus 6 is announced then the 5 is all we can compare it to on Android L. Other phones have similar length of time when focusing and processing HDR photos as well. So if you want you can place in G3, S5, OPO, or whatever in place of Nexus 5 in my original post if it makes you feel more comfortable :).

      • warcaster

        On what basis do you make the statement that it “won’t be as fast”? Android L is actually getting an overhaul of its Camera API, making camera software MUCH faster than before. You should even be able to take “burst shots” at 30fps, even if the sensor’s resolution is something like 20MP, like on Sony’s phones (if they take advantage of this new software).

        • Michael Jones

          You’re making an assumption saying that it should be able to do those things very quickly. Like I said before the Nexus 5 HDR plus is the alpha version of the new API and it’s pretty slow when taking HDR photos. Have you even used the iPhone 6? I have and it’s camera is faster at focusing and taking HDR photos than my N5, GS5, G3, and Lumia Icon. It’s not even a contest with how fast it is. HDR photos are taken and processed absolutely instantly. It is incredibly impressive.

          If it’s faster in L then that’s great and I’ll welcome it but there’s a huge gap currently.

          • Jonathas Peschiera

            man, why do you have all these phones? do you work with reviews or are you retarded?

        • EddyKilowatt

          On the basis that it’s two different technologies, Phase Detect vs Contrast. A good implementation of Contrast autofocus can be pretty speedy, some would say “speedy enough” (sub quarter second), but still won’t come close to even a mediocre camera using Phase Detect (sub 1/20 second).

          For an analogy, two other equally different technologies would be SSD vs spinning hard drive. It would be a pretty safe bet that the SSD will be faster, unless something is majorly farked in the implementation.

          There are Phase Detect pixels on many of the Sony sensors going into phone cameras, and Samsung (for one) is already using them. But it seems unlikely that the generic Android L camera app will, since it’s such a hardware-specific feature.

          • playingwithplato

            Still doesn’t beat focusing post shot with information from a z axis depth sensor, a la HTC One. Even if the auto-focus isn’t as fast as cell phone x, being able to focus anywhere in the frame after the camera has captured the photo is neato.

    • Sim

      Android L on the Nexus5 is REALLY good. Almost as good as the Iphone6, but on a phone that’s half the price and 18 months old. New Android high end Android products with Android L will destroy the iPhone6.

      • jss2

        Only off by 7 months. The nexus 5 isn’t 18 months old. It’s 11 months old.

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  • Jack Parker

    It was said last year to be the 1st as well and it came out on the 31st of October. My money is on the 31st

  • PurelyConservative

    Can’t wait to get rid of my old HTC and get my hands on a new Nexus phone!

  • crutchcorn

    Nothing I can say hasn’t been said already. But what about the nexus phone?

  • Dario · 753 a.C. .

    too much time…. i can’t wait all those time..

  • AbbyZFresh

    I can’t wait anymore. What’s taking Google so long.

    • Brett

      What are you talking about? If the dates are correct, the release will be EARLIER than last year.

  • wat

    If they release a Nexus smartphone without 64 bit CPU at the same event as first 64 bit tablet launch they’re idiots,, but I blame Qualcomm for this

    • cherubdawg

      What do you want 64bit for, exactly? Can you specify what 64bit is going to do for you?

      • ClikFire _

        i never understood the need for it in the iphone or ipad either.

      • sad fanboy

        a 30% performance boost.

        • cherubdawg

          64bit doesn’t do that.

          • wat

            There’re no existing chips available to make statements like you just have. The only way to prove or disprove this would be to put chips of the same instruction set and core count and clock speed against one another with one 32 bit and one 64 bit. You would find the 64 bit to process faster, logically.

          • Saroj

            All 64bit CPU do is handle more then 4 gigs of ram of you had the similar processors running almost the but the instruction set on one is 32 and other 64bit there should be no difference on performance. The reason mobile phones are going 64bit is because there are phones with 3GB of ram already and to go to 4GB you need 64Bit.

          • warcaster

            Ignorant comment is ignorant. It’s NOT ABOUT THE 64-BIT. It’s about the move to the ARMv8 architecture.

          • Simon Belmont

            Actually, ARMv8 will only address 48-bits, not 64-bits. There’s really no point in having a phone being able to address over 256 TB of RAM (lol).

            As for performance, there are situations where performance will be increased, but it’s not across the board. It will also (obviously) vary by app.

          • smokebomb

            I’d appreciate 256TB of RAM.

          • warcaster

            You mean like this? http://images.frandroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ARM-32-vs-64-ARMV7-ARMV8.png

            Anandtech also had an article about Cortex A53 being 19 percent faster on ARMv8 than on ARMv7.

          • wat

            The image proves that 64 bit beats 32 bit on the same processor but then your comment is not related to the same thing? Samsung have just released a CPU in the Note 4 that is A57/A53 too on ARM v8 I believe, but locked in 32 bit. When this CPU comes out soon in 64 bit then we can give a true answer as to the power increase from 64 bit alone.

          • Toss3

            Doubt it’s going to matter since Aarch32 isn’t the same as Aarch64. Just because a SoC is Armv8 doesn’t mean it’s going to use the same instruction set for both 32- and 64-bit (ArmV8 is backwards compatible so you can use the old one on the newer architecture). If you actually want to know how 64-bit performs in comparison to 32-bit just use a 32-bit version of windows on a 64-bit capable CPU, and you’ll be able to do a decent comparison (x86-64 is just an extension of x86 so there’s only going to be minor differences in performance). The thing is only in situations where you need to use large numbers like in cryptography and situations where you’ll need to access more than 4Gb is going to show performance differences (if you use a server version of windows 32-bit you’ll also get PAE and the differences should be even smaller). Otherwise you could just read up on 64-bit computing on arstechnica: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2002/03/an-introduction-to-64-bit-computing-and-x86-64/2/

          • cherubdawg

            No, the image proves that one processor is faster than the other, none of it having to do with 64bit. Look at the “Key factors” on the left. Do any of them say anything about 64bit? The increased performance is because of everything else.

          • wat

            It mentions nothing about ARM v8 instruction set in the title, while mentioning a comparison to ARM v7, it’s not clear what they’re trying to show but if you see on the right A57 32Bit vs A57 64Bit I assume they are both using ARM v8 as it is on A57 cores. If that is the case it is showing the 64 bit chip outperforming the 32 bit chip base on x86/x64 ALONE, not on v8 vs v7 also.

          • ChalkyCroissant

            im gonna post this from a pc-perspective but does having 64-bit in android allow >4gb RAM, like it does on PC? Or what

          • cherubdawg

            Yes, exactly. And that’s the majority of what it does. Which is why it’s funny with *certain people* think there’s some sort of magical performance boost that also innately comes from it. Those people haven’t bothered to read about the “computer science” that they themselves think they know so much about.

          • wat

            Again, you are WRONG hahahah!!! Android can use more than 4GB RAM in 32 bit. 100% WRONG AGAIN and stating it as fact hahahaha.

          • Mariusz Kujawski

            But still wider registers allow to make computation faster. Isn’t it the same as in x86?

          • Toss3

            Only in situations where you need to use larger numbers, like in cryptography (on 32-bit you would run into overflow, and instead have to emulate 64-bit registers, which would cause slowdowns as the CPU would only be able to access 32 bits per cycle) would you benefit from 64-bit.

          • wat

            The Linux kernel includes full PAE mode support starting with version 2.3.23,[17] enabling access of up to 64 GB of memory on 32-bit machines.

            Wrong again, dealwithit.

          • warcaster

            No, but ARMv8 architecture, that “happens to be 64-bit” DOES.

            So keep your uninformed ignorant comments to yourself next time.

        • Mark

          30% more memory usage. and similar performance on almost everything you would do on a mobile phone.

          Sorry, you have been mislead by Apple propaganda. 64bit on mobile phones is mostly useless.

          • warcaster

            No it’s not. Also Android L won’t use 30 percent more memory, like iOS, Windows, Mac OS and other operating systems do on 64-bit. The memory addresses will be compressed to 32-bit lengths – so no memory bloat on Android by going 64-bit. Android may actually get to use LESS memory on similar apps than iOS, Windows Phone and so on, on 64-bit hardware.

            http://www.anandtech.com/show/8231/a-closer-look-at-android-runtime-art-in-android-l/3

      • wat

        Because there is no point in buying anything now when a month, 2, 3 later will be the same priced hardware but with enhanced processing for FPS in higher quality games etc. Not only that but they will announce the 664 bit tablet and be all like YEAH 64 BIT, HERE HAVE A 32 BIT SMARTPHONE TO GO WITH IT and it is going to make them look retarded. Props to Apple for not making that mistake when they switched because they’re aware it would be retarded.
        I will go as far as to say I would rather they use a Snapdragon 610 with a high end GPU if they could get one specced than to use the 805 and mess up their transition.

        • cherubdawg

          What does 64bit have to do with “enhanced processing for FPS in higher quality games”? Your view of what 64bit is is skewed. I’d recommend reading up on it. It has little to nothing to do with increased performance.

          And you definitely don’t want a snapdragon 610 over an 805. That’s insane. It’s not better in any way.

          • wat

            If you don’t think increased processing power effctts FPS of games then you know NOTHING about computing. I recommend you learn some basic computer science. I did not say the 610 was better than the 805 but that, with a high end GPU specced model, it could very well be equivalent or better but the point is to at least consistent with the 64 bit movement even if not bringing tangible enhancement.

          • cherubdawg

            There is no relation between processing power (or the FPS of games) and 64bit computing.

            Can you point me to any literature that says that a 64bit instruction set somehow increases performance?

            It’s funny how in your last line you admit that you just want to “be consistent with the 64 bit movement even if not bringing tangible enhancement.”

          • Mike Reid

            LOL, he used the word “retarded” twice and the phrase “you know NOTHING”.

            People who use such language tend to be projecting their insecurities on others.

            People who know computers know that 64 bits alone makes little difference (except for databases/large datasets), and can even slow things down in some cases. We’ve seen exactly that with PCs. It can be proven by running Intel/AMD CPUs in 32 bit and 64 bit modes.

            It’s easy to mistake performance improvements from ALL the other upgrades that usually go along with a 32-> 64 bit CPU transition for an increase for the 32 bits extra alone.

          • wat

            Yeah you’re right, 64 bit is worthless and means nothing. We should keep using 32 bit forever, this is obviously where the market is going with all the biggest chip makers remaining 32 bit forever cus it’s the best. Oh wait no, it isn’t. Apple, Samsung, Intel, AMD, Qualcomm, MediaTek etc etc etc went 64 bit as soon as they possibly could.

          • cherubdawg

            It’s not worthless: it allows for more RAM addressing. That’s it. It doesn’t inherently make the processor faster, which is what you’ve been arguing (“30% performance boost”), and what I’ve been arguing against.

          • wat

            Easy to prove it by playing an emulator on your PC at full processor power in power settings then turn processor power down to 50% and watch your FPS drop rapidly. From CPU alone.
            What’s funny in wanting the to be logical and consistent in their launch event? They can NOT say “ooh look 64 bit” and then ignore it in their phone launch!! Your arguments are just as valid for tablets as smartphones.

          • Toss3

            Rofl you should do standup about computer illiteracy.

          • wat

            Humor me by saying that is not a fact, please, joker.

          • Toss3

            Well, at least you’re good at getting people to laugh at you.

          • wat

            Well at least I’m smarter, better educated and more successful than any of them, including yourself.

          • Toss3

            Much smart, so wow.

          • wat

            I have an IQ in the top 0.5% of the world. Deal with it.

          • cherubdawg

            “Well at least I’m smarter, better educated and more successful than any of them, including yourself.”

            lol

          • wat

            That’s right, you be jealous now while ignoring my making an idiot of you by point out everything you said being wrong.

          • cherubdawg

            No one is arguing that a faster processor makes things perform faster. That’s just basic knowledge.

            What I’ve been saying is that 64bit has nothing to do with the extra performance. And you keep arguing that it does, with no good reason.

          • Processing power has nothing to do with the fact that it’s 64 or 32 bit, that’s the CPU speed that makes it. Changing from an V6 to an V8, (x86-x64) does not necessarily mean a better and faster car. Changing the amount of horsepower (CPU speed) however does.

      • Marco

        ARMv8-A.

        • cherubdawg

          Exactly. ARMv8 is a higher performance platform, and it happens to be 64bit. The increased performance has nothing to do with 64bit, but rather its new architecture and better instruction set. Going to ARMv8 would be great–it just has little to do with 64bit.

          • wat

            The 30% performance boost does not come from v8 instruction set alone. 10-15% of it will come from 64 bit processing.

          • cherubdawg

            Really? I’d like to see a reference for that.

          • Toss3

            Hey come one! 64-bit is twice as high as 32-bit and that surely means it performs twice as fast! /s (64-bit does give some improvements as it can move twice the data due to 64-bit registers, but this only improves performance for some tasks). I think Arstechnica put it best: “The take-home point here is that only applications that require and use 64-bit integers will see a performance increase on 64-bit hardware that is due solely to a 64-bit processor’s wider registers and increased dynamic range. So there’s no magical performance boost inherent in the move from 32 bits to 64 bits, as people are often led to think by journalists who write things like, “64-bit computers can processes twice as much data per clock cycle as their 32-bit counterparts.” Technically, this is true in a very restricted sense, but it would be better to say the following: “64-bit computers can process numbers that are 4.3 billion times as large as those processed by their 32-bit counterparts.” It sounds a lot less sexy because it is, but at least no one is misled into thinking that 64-bitness makes a computer somehow twice as fast.” http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2002/03/an-introduction-to-64-bit-computing-and-x86-64/2/

          • Marco

            On a smartphone, 64 bit alone won’t get you such a performance improvement.

          • warcaster

            FFS are you people DENSE? It’s NOT ABOUT 64-BIT. It’s THE OTHER features and performance improvements that ARMv8 brings.

          • Marco

            Why do you think I wrote “64 bit ALONE”?

          • Orzowei

            You obviously don’t have a clue about CPUs or computer science in general. Stop making ridiculous statements.

          • wat

            Yeah fucking troll guest accounts. Easy to prove it by playing an emulator on your PC at full processor power in power settings then turn processor power down to 50% and watch your FPS drop rapidly. From CPU alone.

      • monkey god

        ability to utilize more than 4 gb of ram, though i don’t think any phone needs more than that right now.

        • wat

          Android can use more than 4GB of RAM even in 32 bit mode.

          • tj12051

            please explain how this magic works.

          • wat

            Limits on physical memory for 32-bit platforms depend on the Physical Address Extension (PAE), which can allow 32-bit systems to use more than 4 GB of physical memory. I saw an article written by ARM about it once, I believe it is called LPAE (Large Physical Address Extension).

          • Which slows down the device when it’s in use since it needs to use processor power to do that. It’s just like @Toss3 said “Only in situations where you need to use larger numbers, like in cryptography (on 32-bit you would run into overflow, and instead have to emulate 64-bit registers, which would cause slowdowns as the CPU would only be able to access 32 bits per cycle) would you benefit from 64-bit.”

          • wat

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
            Please read here.

            “The Linux kernel includes full PAE mode support starting with version 2.3.23,[17] enabling access of up to 64 GB of memory on 32-bit machines. “

  • Marco

    Back in the days, we had a lot more leaks, pictures, documents and stuff about newcoming Nexus handsets. This year, leaks don’t look that much convincing.

  • Crafted Crows

    After the iphone drop test i take everything that is written here with a grain of salt. Something feels broken after that video.

    • Mooing Cows

      You can clearly see how the screen ripped off the phone in the slow mo video, and then suddenly it’s back normal again. I smell bullshit all around this site now.

      • TMOTECH

        I saw it too. Thought I was going nuts.

  • ClikFire _

    Love my Nexus 5 but I want a bigger screen, better camera and battery as well as some Android L! Bring on the Nexus X aka 6

  • Bilal Mahmood

    I wonder how much time till a stable build of CM based of L

  • dhinged

    So there’s going to be a Nexus 6 and 9? I can just see the product shots of them laying on top of each other with one upside down.

    • MadCowOnAStick

      lol.

    • smokebomb

      Upside down or face down?

      • dhinged

        Well, it would also be face-down.

  • Whisper He

    shxt up,and take my money.

  • Ryan

    will the nexus 4 get the L update?

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  • Ryan

    will nexus 4 get the L update?

    • José A. Medina

      Most likely, there’s a report saying Google employes where testing/using Android L on N4

  • Jamal Khan

    Oh come waited forever for the new moto x, NOW I HAVE TO WAIT FOR THIS NEXUS X !!!

  • Elfateh Siraj

    I hope Android L is worth the wait

  • Mark

    Google would be idiots to release new hardware with old OS, just because of a couple of weeks. They would slaughtered by the press, who never revisit reviews (they have long since sold their free review hardware).

  • Влатко Стојанов

    That’s it, I’m going in deep sleep for the next 3 weeks. Goodbye.

  • Simon Belmont

    Ugh. November 1 for Android L.

    I guess maybe they want the new Nexus tablet and phone to have Android L exclusively for a couple weeks? Oh well, another two weeks is another two weeks (and maybe it’ll be released sooner, as this is just a rumor).

  • Android Developer

    This is very near the date of the requirement of putting the address of developers on the Play store.
    (sorry for all the “of”)

  • Fatal1ty_93_RUS

    I want my New Nexus 10! >:|

  • Vyshnav Raj

    Nexus 6 & Android L,Yeah waiting for them……..

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