By now, the case that the next Nexus smartphone (the Nexus 5, if you will) is an LG job is fairly strong. We’ve seen several sets of regulatory filings that support it, apparently confirming rumors out of South Korea that Google’s new flagship would be made by LG based on the recently launched G2.
Sharing the hardware platform of LG’s 2012 flagship, the Nexus 4 featured the same 8MP camera as some versions of the Optimus G. (The 8MP model was available on AT&T, while other models, like the Sprint and the international ones, boasted a 13MP sensor). It’s therefore relatively safe to assume that the new Nexus will have the same camera as the LG G2.
Supporting this assumption is the close resemblance between the camera module from the FCC docs and the camera module of the LG G2.
Camera module of alleged Nexus 5, taken from FCC filing
Camera module of LG G2. Click to enlarge
Camera module of LG G2, courtesy of AnandTech
Though the fact that the two modules look identical is no guarantee that the Nexus 5 will have precisely the same camera as the G2, that is a distinct possibility at this point.
Nexus smartphones were never known for the quality of their cameras, but that could change this year, if the Nexus 5 indeed turns out to feature the G2’s 13MP camera with optical image stabilization.
We were impressed with the imaging capabilities of the G2 in our extensive review, and this demo video from LG does a pretty good job at explaining the core strengths of the G2’s camera.
Will the new Nexus be the first to shed the series reputation for mediocre cameras? Will see this October.
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Whatever is the camera sensor Google should definitely release the nexus 5 at 300$-400$ price range ; not like the Moto X.
In theory it should be more orless the same price. What Motorola did was just plain stupid. I don’t expect anyone else to pull a Dennis Woodside.
Totally right :)
Totally different situation. Motorola makes money off devices, Google makes money off ads.
Motorola cannot do all the R&D, licencing, manufacturing and marketing and sell the device at just the manufacturing cost, that’ll make them lose money. I mean even HTC is losing money and they are selling the One expensive and in good numbers.
Google on the other hand can can sell Nexus devices cheap cause it costs !LG! the money who manufactures the G2 for $250 and sells it for $600 and manufactures the N5 for $250 and sells it for $300. Motorola simply can’t afford to pull and LG at this moment.
Exactly, people are expecting that everyone should sell their products with +/- zero profit now that Google did it and that’s not how it should go. Motorola may have asked for a little to much for Moto X, but that was probably (and hopefully) based on calculations that said that they need to ask for that amount of $ to make decent profit. If Nexus 5 costs $50 more than Nexus 4, people will start complaining about the awesomely cheap price just because it’s more expensive compared to the older model. As long as it’s under $400 it’s okay (though cheaper is still prefered).
Oh come on. OPPO Find 5 costs as much as the Nexus and that phone is among the top flagship phones out today. Better then a lot of them too. I don’t see them making any loss selling their phone. Check how much Samsung makes, check how much Apple makes. The reality is that they could sell their phones cheaper and still make a ton of cash. Motorola was never about ripping of their costumers. Well not before Woodside stepped in.
Don’t know about Oppo’s profits, but they’re Chinese, they sell everything cheap :) Apple is over doing it and everyone could afford selling phones for a little less, but they’ve got to make money, because that’s how companies work. They need to make as much money as possible.
What do you mean they are Chinese? More then half the phones out there are made in China. OPPO makes their product like anyone else, shoppes their product to Europe like anyone else. Only difference is how they sell it online and considering you get free DHL shipping within 2 days i say OPPO kick ass on that one. Phone is premium build so i got to say your argument is false.
My argument is quite opposite of false. I said nothing about quality (Oppo Find 5 is one of the highest quality Android devices).
And you just added one more reason why they can sell with such low price: they don’t have to sell thousands (millions) of phones to the world and advertise it like Samsung!
That whole sale structure is stupid. Personally i don’t care much for the people who buy iPhones or moto X. Thank god for Nexus and OPPO with an easy cyanogenmod install :)
And thank you Cyanogenmoddevs too :D
I’m glad we can all fall back on our love of custom ROMs :D
Me too ♥
Assuming it’s the same Oppo that makes blu-ray players , they don’t sell everything cheap , great players , NOT cheap :)
The Find 5 definitely costs way more than the Nexus, check it, here on Europe its 200 euros for the Nexus 4 and 400 for the Find 5, it is still cheaper than other flagships for sure, but you have to take in account that Oppo spend almost $0 on marketing and doens’t have brick and mortar stores/support outside china… I also agree that the Moto X should be cheaper, but they are also willing to spend lot of money on advertisement and other extra hardware techologies (X8)
You are compering the sale price that seams to be Google clearing pout it’s inventory. That’s not fair and you know it.
Exactly. When you buy an Oppo . you’re buying the phone and that’s it. whereas when you buy a Nexus or an LG you’re paying for the phone ,after sale service and maybe a better warranty.
Parts alone cost in the area of $220 for the Moto X (been posted on another site). Keep in mind the R&D, the fact they have to pay employees, the fact they have to pay for health insurance for their employees, the fact they have property to pay for, utilities, and everything else they have to pay for to run a business. Motorola doesn’t have the luxury to sell the phone at $300. They would actually LOSE money and go out of business immediately. Let me know when you run a company. Your business decision making skills would run it into the ground in weeks, not months.
Google, on the other hand, can sell a phone at whatever they want and make that money up easily in advertising (would make that money back easily just in Google Chrome ad clicks). That’s how Google makes money, people. They don’t make money from selling cutting edge smart phones at a loss. Motorola doesn’t have this luxury. They need to sell the Moto X at $500+ like everyone else does.
By today’s standards that phone is worth 400 bucks. I’m sorry but it just is.
It’s worth $400 to you. Why is that?
And he has no answer to my question….figures!
I found the question to stupid to answer.
It’s “too” by the way, smart guy. I just asked why you didn’t think it was worth it. If that’s too stupid of a question, then you are irrational. And one thing I’ve learned in life is that you can’t rationalize with the irrational. It’s unfortunate you can’t win the argument and have chosen to avoid the argument instead.
Because i answered this question already. If you took the time to read the rest you wouldn’t be asking it. That makes it a stupid question. As far as the language goes; for someone who speaks more them a few i am happy with my knowledge of English. Event though it’s not perfect.
Listen up. My point is that so many people here think they know everything and they know nothing about the topic. No offense, but I have a B.S. degree in Computer Science and have worked in the field professionally for 13 years. What will a Galaxy S4 do better than the Moto X because of the different processor? What do you actually know about dual core vs. quad core processors on the Android platform? Did you even know that the GPU of the Moto X is an Adreno 320 which is the same as the S4 and HTC One? The software is closer to stock Android than any of its carrier competition with extremely useful additions. The companion lower voltage cores are a wonderful addition to Android phones as most reviews have pointed out. It just makes for a more efficient phone with battery life. I’ve seen no reviews of stuttering or performance issues so who cares if it isn’t a Snapdragon 600 or 800 (the Nexus 4 clearly doesn’t need them). So again, tell us why it’s not a $500 phone. I will dock them $50 for the 720P screen vs. 1080P and I’ll dock them a little on the camera as well. So take a $600 S4 or HTC One and knock off $50 to $75 and there you have it.
O so you went do an American collage. That’s cure. I would like to see you try to finish one here :D
It’s a dual core phone with a 720P screen. It’s like you telling me “Did you know that the Dacia is the most fuel efficient car out there.”. Dude buy the X. No one will turn around at the bar and say: “Look man, he has the moto X. Awesome phone.”
Oh shut the fuck up Luka… That college bashing comment you made is very typical of demagogues and a sign you really don’t know anything about their universities . Just because our fuckedup education system is so redundant and promotes lazy teaching,they systematically dropout students and then demand too much doesn’t mean our students are more proficient or prepared. It is in fact the opposite,it produces less original thinking and many students don’t know what to do after they finish studies…IF they finish. University of Ljubljana is one of the most politicised and shameful. Of course if my assumption that you are Slovenian is correct
Croatian. Slovenia is a small place that no one likes. Hardly the place to base anything on. Let me hear how much you know about our schools :)
BTW stop thinking LG makes the Nexus to brake even. They are a company selling their phone exclusively to Google. No one does anything on this planet for free.
Three years ago, a phone with those specs would cause you to believe there is a god ^_^
You could say that for any flagship phone :P
:P god is only valued at a 550 usd ?
It’s also assembled in the United Sates, had to build an entire factory of it’s own, and is targeting the general public. Obviously not you.
1. 720P almost has zero difference to the naked eye in a 4.7″ screen compared to 1080P
2. The X8 computing system actually runs 4.2.2 extremely well with almost no lag according to all the reviews. It also does extremely well on battery life by having an okay size battery.
3. SD card slot….Google owns them now, we might start seeing no more SD card slots at all for Motorola devices as Google wants everyone to use the cloud.
4. Yeah it has a crap camera. But whatever. If I bought a cell phone for it’s camera then I would have gotten a Nokia Lumia 1020 or I would have just flat out bought an actual camera if I was really that obsessed in how perfect my photos were.
But Google didn’t make the Nexus 4, LG did.
What you should be discussing is why the Moto X sucks compared to the LG G2. $600 off contract price for both, $200 contract price for both. Both RELEASED same time period. For $600, the G2 wins EVERY TIME.
Moto X is mediocre, midrange OVERPRICED crap.
When Motorola can make a G2-type device THEN they can charge $600 — and Google will trust them to make a Nexus phone.
dude, your post makes no sense. Google sell it cheap cuz they want it cheap. simple as that. If Motorola sells the moto X at around 300-$400, they wouldn’t need to spend much money for ads. HTC is not sucessful because their phone is not good enough. Their One is a cool device. true. But it’s not good enough. It lacks sd card and has a so so battery. There are 2 ways to sell phones, I think: 1 is make it really cheap like the Nexus. Another way is to pack everything customers want (sd card, removeable battery, good camera…) into a phone like Samsung did.
His post actually makes a lot of sense. Hes pretty much saying the Moto X has mid level specs but they charge a premium price for it. While the G2 has premium specs and has a similarly premium price.
The question begs to be asked why is Motorola charging such a high price for the Moto X where its being placed in direct competition with other superphones (G2, S4, HTC one) and while it might have a few cool features and a slick interface, the poor quality camera and limited memory options (unless your on AT&T) just cant compete with those superphones.
I’m no Economics Professor… but the Moto X is made in America by American workers making an American wage. I think what they are doing, at the price they are doing it at, is truly commendable.
I agree but the price isn’t good for competiton ; moto x is just like iphone 5C: expensive.
Google makes its profits back by making profit from Google Play
A very quiet, not so convinced and not wanting to jinx OOHHH YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Interesting but ois on nexus might hurt lg g2 sales so I doubt nexus 5 getting ois
Not any more than the N4 sales affected the G. Sure the G had 5 more MPs but ppl. hardly chose it over the Nexus for that, they were either ignorant or got it on contract.
The Nexus line-up is still a small and isolated pie that doesn’t really affect main sales.
Most people don’t even know what a nexus phone is.
…I don’t think that’s true anymore . When Google will start to make their Nexus phones and start promoting them in the media / make some serious ad campaigns,then it will become huge. I suppose Google doesn’t want to sell them so much or they don’t need to. Strange
I like the video…but g2 still not available in India
But the annoying fact is…just announced note 3 will be hitting Indian stores in Sept 25 but g2 will only come in mid October….bummer…
You want a better camera get the Xperia Z1
This phone better come out on verizon!
Verizon is on CDMA networks. Only LTE networks of theirs are “open” ,right? It will work on those specific LTE bands only,I think. I don’t think Google will make another mistake and make a Verizon/Carrier specific phone anymore, the Galaxy Nexus was a disaster in that regard.
If the Nexus 5 is going to have the same camera module as the G2 then i’m buying it.. My bills can wait. I currently have the N4 and I love it, the only thing that disappoints me is the camera. I never want to go back to Touchwiz or any other manufacturer skin but the Nexus line needs improvement in the camera department.. I hope Google and LG find other ways of keeping the cost down, but please, don’t skimp on the camera this time..
The back cam seem to be the exact same as the one on the G2… The front camera for the Nexus 5 seems to be missing the stabilization cradle… So we might be getting only one of the G2 cam’s…
Has this proven wrong, with the latest leaks of the specs? 8 MP with NO OIS. 2300 battery.