LG-D820 / LG-D821 – Nexus 5 or LG G2 versions?

by: Chris SmithSeptember 9, 2013

Nexus 5 at Android 4.4 KitKat statue unveiling

After seeing two LG devices that may be Nexus 5 versions hitting the FCC and the Bluetooth SIG a few days ago, a new leak seems to indicate that at least one of the two versions may actually be an LG G2 model.

A puzzling image

Well-known @evleaks, who has been highly accurate in the past, says that the LG-D821 is not an LG Nexus 5 handset, but a CDMA version of the LG G2:

According to the image he posted, the D821 should be similar to the D802 when it comes to specs (excluding wireless characteristics) and design. Therefore the D821 appears to be a CDMA version of the LG G2.

Considering the similarity between these two model numbers – D820 and D821 – we would assume that the two handset must be very similar (which is why we initially believed the D821 may be a Nexus 5 model).

Now, assuming they’re indeed similar, and assuming @evleaks is right again, then the D82o may also be an LG G2 version instead of a Nexus 5.

What does the FCC say?

However, the FCC documentation offers some details about the D820 that aren’t in line with what we’d expect from an LG G2.

Nexus 5 FCC

For example, the LG G2 has a 5.2-inch display, whereas the D820 is expected to pack a smaller 4.96 display. Furthermore, the dimensions of the LG G2 are 138.5 x 70.9 (height and width), while the D820 is slightly smaller at 131.9 x 68.2mm.

Finally, camera placement also differs. The LG G2 has the rear camera placed in the middle, while the D820 has the camera placed towards the left corner of the device in images filed with the FCC (image above)

We’ll also note that the camera placement and overall size seem to match the camera of that unknown Nexus phone captured on a Google video (see top image).

Wrap up

As you can see, there’s no simple conclusion here. While we have FCC and Bluetooth SIG documentation about the D820 and D821, respectively, we also have information coming from a source that has been very accurate in the past.

Since Google is yet to unveil the Nexus 5, we can only speculate on various scenarios that would explain everything.

The D820 could indeed be a new Nexus 5, while the D821 could be an LG G2 CDMA version. But why would they have so similar model numbers?

Both devices could be LG G2 models, but in that case does it mean that FCC documentation is wrong about certain LG G2 characteristics including phone size, screen size and camera placement?

Both devices could be Nexus 5 versions, in which case @evleaks is wrong about the D821.

The D820 and D821 could be different versions of a different LG handset – not a Nexus device. In such a case @evleaks would be wrong but also right about the D821.

We’ll be back with more details about these unofficial LG handset once we have more details about it. Meanwhile, let us know what you think about these unofficial handsets.

  • Ian Dimare

    bullshit i see… i think evleaks wants to make us fool.
    Android 4.4, name ‘hammerhead’, totally difference style, no rear buttons… it MUST be Nexus from LG.

    • newsjunkieintl

      Agreed. He was drunk when he tweeted that. He said the LG-D820 was CDMA only when the FCC specs show it’s pentaband HSPA+, multiple LTE bands, and Sprint CDMA. He’s either stupid or thinks we are. :)

      And if he’s wrong about the LG-D820 which went through the FCC so we have PROOF he’s an idiot, then I also do not trust his specs on the LG-0D821 which is probably the Verizon variant of the Nexus 5.

    • Nexus7Forum.com

      Yes, it’s the Nexus 5 alright. http://Nexus5Forum.com

    • setzer715

      I think you meant Android 4.4 named Key Line Pie? Hammerhead is the code name for the device. Either way evleaks is wrong. NO phone manufacturer will have KitKat (previously key
      lime pie) BEFORE Google releases it.

      • Ian Dimare

        yeah, i meant the name of the new nexus (:

      • newsjunkieintl

        The firmware build string said hammerhead and keylimepie. It’s obviously a test build.

  • Humberto Hernandez

    I still think it’s the new Nexus. That case is not the G2’s but the “leaked” new nexus found in the video.

  • James Sarino

    Misdirection on the part of EVLeaks…the images still don’t match up to what a LG G2 would be internally. I still think it’s the new Nexus.

  • Jesús G. Pinto González

    C’mon.. A completely different device is not likely a “version” of another phone…
    Dimension don’t match, nor does the camera placement or screen size…
    a “G2 mini”?
    Don’t think so, either…
    evleaks is throwing us off the trail…
    Maybe he’ll “leak” the Nexus images further on in an attempt to own the break story…

    • newsjunkieintl

      EVLEAKS was wrong on GS4 and Note 3 rendition, was wrong on Nexus 4, and now he’s wrong about the Nexus 5. Why does anyone even listen to him anymore?

  • mfcfan

    Cant wait for Nexus 5 but tbh good news if its lg G2,

    give it to Sony or HTC to create new Nexus.

    Why should they stick with LG for n4 and n5.

    • duckmanbill

      Well. Given they used LG for n4, it is not a stretch to imagine they would use them again for N5. In the long run, it would make sense to have Motorola make the Nexus line, since Google owns Motorola.

  • duckmanbill

    820 and 821 are obviously two variants of the same phone. Forget what EVLEAKS says, he’s just some schmo. The burning question is whether 820 and 821 is the Nexus 5 or something else. By comparing to Google’s promo vid, it would seem to be the Nexus 5. Can we get more info on the 821 frequencies?

  • gphillimo

    evleaks has been right about everything i’ve ever seen them post, so i’m sticking with what they said until proven otherwise.

    • newsjunkieintl

      No, he’s more wrong than right. EVLEAKS was wrong on GS4 and Note 3 rendition, was wrong on Nexus 4, and now he’s wrong about the Nexus 5.

  • OMGgary

    Would be kinda relieved if the phone with only 2300mAh battery was not the Nexus.

  • Luka Mlinar

    I don’t buy it. It’s the new nexus.

  • Balraj

    More 20 days to go
    Let’s wait n watch :-P

    • prick

      why 20 days?

  • TechyTee

    A comparison of the dimensions of mysterious Nexus 5 and Nexus 4 shown in Android KitKat statue unveiling video using video snaps. That new Nexus is bigger than the Nexus 4.

    • newsjunkieintl

      no, it’s not. The woman is further away. Optical illusion it’s smaller.

      • Jeff

        Stop bringing perspective into the conversation! :p

      • TechyTee

        The woman can be at least 1.5 feet and at most 2 feet away from the guy. Check the full image if it’s unclear. I have proportionately enlarged the Nexus 4. It is not an illusion.

        • Nexus7Forum.com

          Actually she could be 3 or 4 feet behind the man and if you watch the video it looks like she is.

          • TechyTee

            If she’s so far behind the man then how does she look so bigger and look normal as if she’s standing next to the man? Btw, does anybody know who is this Googler guy? His name?

      • prick

        Wtf, you can’t be serious? Can you not tell that it is way smaller? You don’t know much about cameras and perspective, do you? If you already don’t know that perspective doesn’t make such a difference at this distance, can’t you at least tell that her hands are way smaller than his and still the phone looks smaller? That phone is at least half an inch smaller on each side.

        • steve

          there are too many variables to know for sure (distance between cam and subject, distance between the two subjects, angles, etc). But You can’t “proportionately” enlarge the Nexus 4 without knowing a lot that’s impossible to extract from the video.

          • prick

            No there aren’t. It’s very obvious. You may not see it, but believe me it is. It’s my job to see things like that, believe me, I know.

          • TechyTee

            SO Prick you believe that the Nexus 4 is smaller than this mysterious Nexus 5?

          • prick

            What? No, what I said was that the phone the girl is holding is smaller than the one the guy is holding. That’s all.

  • JTrip

    Google didn’t pull this video for no reason.

  • James Shaughnessy

    So a couple things on both sides of this… The original g2 was an HTC phone on Tmo that was release in tandem with LGs version the G2x so a highly different verient might not be as weird as it sounds. If the pics from the FCC leak, are just that, a leak, weak don’t know how correct they are. And the d821 doesn’t seem to make since to me as a g2 variant, the Verizon model is sv980. So idk what going on.

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  • Ryan Kosior

    Can’t say for sure whether it’s the new nexus, but its definitely not the g2. A variant of the g2 without the much hyped rear buttons? I don’t think so.

  • TechyTee

    LG used the whole lot of hardware features that is there in Optimus G in Nexus 4. So the Nexus 5 too will include the features of LG G2 except the megapixel value decreased to 10 or 12. In Nexus 4 there is no difference compared to Optimus G in display size, resolution and ppi. So we can expect the same for Nexus 5 and its dimensions. D820 can be mini version of the Nexus 5 or may be some other device.

  • recoveringlefty

    Are there any pictures of D820 besides the one above next to the visually identical D802? If the available pictures are correct, D820 probably is a variant of the G2 and D821 – which I understand as the device from the FCC filing, with the internals pictured – is something obviously different.
    At the moment, I’m more interested in what Sprint has cooking with the G2. Why the delay? (Tri-band? SVLTE/VoLTE?)

  • newsjunkieintl



  • North America (D820)
    GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
    CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
    WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
    LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41

    Rest of World (D821)
    GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
    WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
    LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20