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Hugo Barra talks about Jelly Bean and Nexus 7 in interview

by on July 5, 2012 4:47 pm
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Android Director of Product Management Hugo Barra appeared for the first time on stage at the Honeycomb event last year. Back then, I remember thinking he didn't do a very good job presenting Honeycomb, but I think it was also the whole environment that didn't make sense and put him in a bad light. It looked a lot less professional than any Google I/O event, and it seemed like they just quickly rented a room to show Honeycomb, which wouldn't be the only rushed thing they did in relation to Android 4.0. However, at this year's Google I/O event I thought Barra did a very good job presenting Jelly Bean, and he did it in a very confident manner.

Of course, giving speeches is not his main job at Google. His job is to manage most of the Android teams, and make sure Android as a whole turns out to be a good product. But if he's going to be the one presenting the new version of Android every time, then I'm glad he can do a good job with that, as well. Presenting a product can be almost as important as building it, and we've learned that from Steve Jobs's keynotes, where he could make almost any small thing or feature sound like a big deal and get everyone hyped about it.

Wired managed to take an interview with Barra, and ask him more details about Jelly Bean, Google Now, Nexus 7 and other new features in Android.

Google Now

When asked about Google Now and voice search, Barra said that Google Now and its smart cards are actually not such a new idea, but more of an evolution of something called “one-box,” a feature that Google has been using for a while on top of Google's search results. Occasionally, one can see an actual box atop regular search results, which contains the answer for your query and other information available at a glance. With Android, the only difference is that they've formatted it in a specific way to look good on mobile devices such as tablets and phones.

The idea here is to show users what Google thinks is the best answer for their questions, although with Google Now you also get a list of Google search results at the bottom, in case you didn't find the first answer to be very accurate or you just want more information about that topic.

Voice Search

Google Voice Search is also not something new. In fact, it has existed for a long time on the Android platform, way before Siri appeared on the iPhone 4S. What they have now is just an evolution of that, with better algorithms, better AI, and what he says is “the most accurate, conversational, synthesized voice in the world”. I haven't tested a Nexus 7 tablet myself yet, but if they are using the same voice technology they've been using for the past few months or so in Google Translate, I tend to agree with him. The voice performance in that service is very impressive, natural and almost human.

Google made sure it found the perfect human voice for this kind of feature, so it sounds friendly and conversational while speaking back the answers to the user. You'll also have to know that Google needs a lot of computational power to make the speech synthesis work well and fast (without even counting the part about giving you the right answers). For the offline voice support that the company also announced for Jelly Bean, Google uses a different engine than the cloud-based one, but the voice should sound exactly the same.

Barra says that their AI doesn't make jokes the way Siri does: “Google is a neutral party — it’s not your friend, secretary or sister. It’s not your mom.” I think a lot of people liked the jokes Siri was making, and it's why they were showing it to their friends a lot, but at the end of the day, this is mostly a gimmick, a party trick, and not exactly useful. Google is more interested in giving you the right answers, rather than making a joke about your question. Google's Voice Search is meant to help you, not necessarily entertain you.

The Wired interviewer asked him about Samsung's S-Voice and LG's upcoming Quick Voice features, but he kind of dodged this question by saying that this technology is just the evolution of Google Search. I think this is exactly the direction Google needs to take, because Google Voice Search and Google Now do feel like together they could be an evolution of Google Search itself – Google Search on Android will be a lot more advanced than it is now, as it can give users answers based on the information it knows about them and their location.

I do hope Samsung and LG plan to introduce these new features in their future upgrades, otherwise a lot of users will be upset about it, especially since we may be looking at the best such product in the market. It does pose the question though, where does that leave S-Voice and Quick Voice?

Jelly Bean

When asked about where Android is heading, Barra hinted that Jelly Bean and future Android versions will take advantage even more of their advanced and interactive widgets that allow the user to quickly deal with content without having to enter the app. I've been thinking about this ever since we saw the Chameleon UI and I definitely think this is something Google needs to explore more. If they do this right, Google could show the advantage it has over Apple's iOS, which doesn't have widgets at all, and even an advantage over Windows 8/WP8′s “tiles,” which are a more primitive form of widgets.

He also noted how they improved the notification system to be a lot richer, show you a lot more, and allow you to do a lot more actions within the notifications themselves, with just one click instead of three that might be needed for certain actions. This kind of improvements make the OS feel more intuitive, and I think a lot of reviewers who still think iOS is the more intuitive mobile platform are not paying attention to stuff like this that exists in Android OS.

Android is intuitive in a different way, by allowing you to be more productive and do more with less. In this case, iOS is just in your way and makes it harder for you to do certain actions. By having widgets that let you increase or decrease brightness, view the weather, toggle Wi-Fi, and so on, are just a few other examples that can support this claim.

PDK

The PDK is Google's Platform Development Kit, and it's kind of a SDK for hardware manufacturers. The PDK should allow manufacturers to test the new version of Android a lot sooner and make sure it's ready to ship on their devices as soon as Google releases the open source code for the new Android version.

Barra says that until now the PDK has been in beta and they've only given it to a couple of manufacturers. Therefore, you may not really get to see any palpable results of the efficiency of the Jelly Bean PDK release. But that could change once Google will roll out a future PDK to more Android device manufacturers ahead of the next OS release – Android 5.0. These PDK-related details seem to indicate that a rumor we heard a few weeks ago may be true after all – that multiple Nexus devices from five different OEMs will be available this fall.

The PDK should significantly reduce the upgrade time to the new Android version for many devices – although it still remains to be seen how many devices will get the new OS update. I figure Android device makers will still want to upgrade only to the high-end devices first, and only after that update other devices to the new Android release.

Nexus 7

Barra thinks that the Nexus 7 is the most powerful 7-inch tablet on the market by leaps and bounds, not just through its no-compromise hardware, which in many ways is as good as a $500 tablet, but also through its Jelly Bean OS, for which Google adopted a more phone-like UI. Apparently people want to use such a device mostly in portrait mode and he thinks this is the direction the industry needs to take for 7-inch tablets.

When asked about a possible 10-inch tablet, his answer was a bit unsatisfactory, as he said that they will take it one step at a time. And they'll first wait and see what their partners do with the 10-inch form factor. That doesn't necessarily mean they won't release a Nexus 10 tablet this fall, especially if Android 5.0 is meant to improve the UI for 10-inch tablets some more. However, those changes are not ready now, so between now and then Android device manufacturers will have to figure out for themselves how they can modify the more phone-like Jelly Bean to work well on a 10-inch device.

Google Play

Hugo says that they recognize Google Play is a new brand, and they will need a lot of education and marketing to let their 400 million users know that they can buy more than just apps in there, and more importantly to get them in the habit to actually buy from there. With the Nexus 7 they're giving everyone a $25 credit for the Play Store, which I think is a very good idea to get people not only to set-up a Google Wallet just so they have it there ready to be used, but also to hook them up on buying stuff from the store. However, it's worth remembering that not all the digital content stored in Google Play will be available in international markets.

Nexus 7 should help promote the Google Play store, but I think Google should do this with all upcoming Nexus and Motorola devices from now on, if it really wants to build a lot of buzz around Google Play in a short amount of time.

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Comments
  • http://twitter.com/hipreetam93 Preetam Nath

    Don’t really need an analyst to tell us most of (the obvious) that

  • http://twitter.com/MysteryMannnnn Mystery Man

    Take my money.

    • Shred

      I wish I could upvote this more than once. :-)

  • Qbancelli

    Oh Yeah!
    My mind is ready, my money is ready, my body…..

    • Ulululu

      Is wet? Oh god

      • http://twitter.com/hipreetam93 Preetam Nath

        sick

  • donald Wyman

    sounds good except I have a hard time beliving that it will have last years processor in it…I might belive it if the claim said it would have a snapdragon 600 or tegra 4. going from a tegra 3 to a s4 pro is not that big of a leap. I am calling bs

    • True_Neutral

      The Tegra 3 wasn’t cutting edge when the first N7 came out. This tablet will continue the first N7′s mission of increasing Android’s tablet market share, not to pack the latest and greatest. Although of course I would also prefer the S600.

      • donald Wyman

        yes but it was a current generation processor not the previous generation processor like this analyst is claiming. All of the nexus devices so far have came out with current generation hardware not previous gen stuff.

  • Oli72

    Can’t wait for that Nexus 7 2nd gen. It think the processor will be stronger then before. Snap dragon 600 or 800.

  • APai

    the weak processor makes this source a suspect, the processor will probably be more powerful

    • Qbancelli

      It’s a $199 tablet. It doesn’t have to have the latest and greatest.

      • anops

        the snap 600 its kinda the S4 on steroids, with a BOM of 20 its pretty probable to be in the nexus 7, anyhow i’ll get the nexus 7 v2, the first was really and it still realyl tentative but i will get this one

      • APai

        surprise! they gave better internals to the nexus 7 than most other android tablets for a long long time now – all for a much lesser price. google is selling the tablet at cost or at a small loss- whatever it is – google clearly isnt profiting directly, so they can afford to give it at cost

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Kp/100001403202424 Kris Kp

          That is probably not true, since ASUS is selling them in retail stores around Europe (also countries without “media play store”) for the same price Google does. And ASUS is not selling them for a loss you can bet on that.

    • True_Neutral

      Wow, the APQ8064 being called weak really shows how fast technology is progressing.

      • APai

        :)

  • Moosa Mahsoom

    Oh my god! JDI makes displays for HTC.

  • Marsg

    Less bezel pls

  • LAKAME

    If this is real I really want it :D

  • kascollet

    1920X1200 resolution + quad-core SoC…. Powered by a mere 4000 mAh battery.
    Either one of this characteristics is wrong, or battery life will be a joke.

    • Bone

      There is no direct relation between pixel density and battery drainage, the Nexus 4 requires more juice at 720p than the Oppo Find 5 or Xperia Z at 1080p. As a matter of fact both the iPad 3 and the Galaxy S4 improved battery life more than they increased capacity, so there’s plenty of reason to expect similar results to the Nexus 7 if it’ll have the same screen and same battery.

      • kascollet

        With the same screen tech, boosting ppi always means boosting back-lighting (more pixels to block the light -> need more light to maintain overall brightness).
        When Apple switched to Retina screen on the iPad, they had to put a 70% bigger battery to keep the battery life in their 10H standard (and in fact, battery life was worse).
        1900X1200 and 4000 mAh battery doesn’t make sens unless A) the screen is very dim (low max brightness -> unacceptable) or B) Asus uses a totally new screen tech (very unlikely at this price point).

        • Paul Taylor

          It also remains to be seen whether Android 4.3 includes improved battery life due to software/kernel improvements. We’ll have to see.

          • kascollet

            Yes. Very good point.

        • Bone

          Then again, in theory that may be true, but in reality it doesn’t make much difference. As my examples show, sometimes the higher res device does a better job at energy saving. It’s is actually, really happening.

        • finalflash

          Not necessarily. The same amount of light is required for the same screen size with LCD regardless of resolution. The amount of crystals in front of the display do not reduce its brightness, they section the screen into more pixels (each point on the screen will be just as bright as the last model assuming the brightness of the screen wasn’t changed). In AMOLED it matters but that’s because each pixel is individually lit, where as in LCD, a uniform backlight is provided for all. The reason iPad retina required a bigger battery is because of the significant graphics and cpu boost it needed to run that resolution and they increased the overall brightness of the screen compared to the previous models.

          So in this case, I assume the battery life will be about the same because while the screen dynamics won’t change much, running that resolution with the more powerful tech will have a bigger hit on battery.

          • kascollet

            No. That’s just wrong. More ppi implies MORE backlight power.

            Displaymate about the iPad “Retina” one year ago :

            “…the light transmission of the LCD decreases as the pixel density increases, so a brighter Backlight is necessary. In fact, the number of Backlight LEDs has roughly doubled (from 36 to an estimated 72 to 82), so the Backlight power has approximately doubled. Since the display normally consumes about 50-60 percent of the total Tablet power, the new iPad needs at least a 50 percent larger battery. In fact, the battery increased from 25 to 42.5 watt hours, a 70 percent increase. Our measured Backlight power for the new iPad is 2.5 times the iPad 2 for the same screen brightness.”

    • Bruce Gangata

      Maybe they are using a new method of saving battery that has been awarded recently, among other battery saving improvements in 4.3
      http://www.google.com/patents/US8407502

    • Lowry Brooks

      I hope it has the same chip as the N10

      • kascollet

        I seriously hope not. This 5250 chip literally DEVOURS battery. They’d better put in a big.little SoC, like the one supposedly powering the S4 Mini (2XA15 + 2XA7).

        • Lowry Brooks

          Oh.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1911005 Thomas Edwards

    Snapdragon and 1080p plus screen is to be expected, if they add a camera, LTE and phone functionality I’d be all over it as a daily driver.

  • Sandor Trinder

    And what abaut the hdmi support?
    It’ important to me put movies etc. to a big screen via MHL or DLNA or micro HDMI…
    The only week point of the nexus 7 is : lack of HDMI or MHL or DLNA connection..

    • http://twitter.com/Czech_Boy Merek Ropet

      It might be slimport like the nexus 4

    • Relocated

      For me the biggest weak point is no rear camera, followed by poor speakers. Long before I care about what I can transfer out of the N7!

      • Relocated

        Sorry, Relocated. Oddly, despite being logged in under my own disqus account, my comments posted as if I were you. Very weird. Very, very weird.

        • Relocated

          Hey Relocated! My comments via discus continue to post under your alias. Grrr. On any and all sites! It started here and won’t go away no matter what I do
          For whatever it’s worth to anyone/everyone, I am NOT “Relocated” and am not posting with this alias on purpose.

  • Bone

    I wish it was 7.9″ it is the PERFECT tablet size, otherwise a fullHD screen with S4 pro / Adreno 320 / 2GB RAM for $200 is SPECtacular!

  • http://www.facebook.com/marc.adam.12 Marc Adam

    I still don’t use my nexus 7 enough to justify dropping another couple hundred bucks.

  • Roberto Tomás

    Im sorry, but the S4 Pro was a 2011/2012 processor. If it is still in products in 2013, fine .. but let’s not kid ourselves calling it new.

    • kascollet

      No. S4 Pro (Pro meaning quad-core) is a late 2012 SoC. First devices running the S4 Pro were Optimus G & Nexus 4. Sony’s own XPeria Z flagship also uses the S4 Pro. It’s still a very decent platform today.

      • Roberto Tomás

        Hi Kas. I believe (look it up if you think I am wrong) Qualcomm releases their high end parts in H2. Every year.
        2013H2: Snapdragon 800
        2012H2: Snapdragon 600 (this wasn’t meant to be a high-end part so much as they couldn’t get the 800 up in time..)
        2011H2: Snapdragon S4 Pro

        • kascollet

          Maybe so, but I was talking about real products availability.

      • Lowry Brooks

        Anything coming in 2013 that’s flagship needs at least an S600.

        • kascollet

          Agreed. But the Nexus is at best a mid-level device, not a “flagshiph.

          • Lowry Brooks

            But it kind of is a flagship in it’s own way. However, because of the cost (199) I think google will never have a “super fast” N7. So this year, I might look at a samsung galaxy tab 3 8.0

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kris-Kp/100001403202424 Kris Kp

      Snapdragon 600 is basically a S4 Pro rev2, it has some imporvements/bug fixes/ optimizations. But the architecture didn’t change. So it is hard to talk about them being different generation.

      • Roberto Tomás

        A typical S4 Pro phone scores around 14k in Antutu. A typical Snapdragon 600 phone scores around 25k. It’s almost 100% faster … this isn’t like GPUs! Those peripheral improvements count in the mobile world

        • kascollet

          It’s more like 20K (S4 Pro) vs 25K (S600). That’s 25%. Obviously in the same league I guess.

          http://cdn-static.zdnet.com/i/r/story/70/00/014067/htc-one-antutu-overall-620×349.jpg

          • Roberto Tomás

            mm, ok, let’s set a standard .. here is a single, relyable source: http://i1.wp.com/cdn04.androidauthority.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/HTC-One-vs-Galaxy-S4-benchmarks.jpg?resize=600%2C370

            so ~26k versus 20k (for best released so far). A 30% improvement is kinda a big deal. But look at the naming nomenclature .. S4 Pro (part of a series with names like Pro, Prime, Plus, Play) versus Snapdragon 600 .. they clearly migrated from one year’s build to the next. Therefore its yesteryear tech. QED

          • kascollet

            Ok then : 20K vs 26K. That’s indeed 30% more, but the frequency advantage is of 26% (1.5 Ghz for the Xperia Z vs 1.9 Ghz for the GS4).
            The benefit of the S600 is only in being able to be clocked higher. I don’t call that a generation gap at all. The Snapdragon 600 is clearly a refinement of the S4 Pro, not much more.

            For example, you have a generation gap between Exynos 4 and Exynos Octa (15K vs 28K at about the same frequency) or between A5 and A6 (100% improvement at 1.5X the frequency).

          • Roberto Tomás

            I thought they also included new controllers, for things like support for SATA3 (800 at least has this), and high speed LPDDR3.

            As for the “Generation gap” — as I noted, the top-of-the-line S4 Pros appear to be pushing 20k, but the regular ones from earlier in the release cycle were closer to 14k. (Edit: in fact, here: http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-s4-pro-vs-exynos-4412-benchmarks-127274/ — it scores only a bit better than 11k in the Optimus G in a review done on this very site)

          • kascollet

            These were old results obtained with another Antutu version !
            The only S4 Pro device that has low score (well below 20K) is the Nexus 4 (bad RAM and NAND or thermal throttling it seems).

  • Pedro Guerrero

    I sold my 8gb for $150,, I’m RDY 50$ to upgrade is DaBest!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Josh-McMurdo/728490462 Josh McMurdo

    Want…….

  • Bilal Mahmood

    Piece of shit WTF snapdragon ?? The reason I bought the nexus 7 was for the Tegra 3 much better gaming than qualqomm can ever do Google should go with the much better tegra 4

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anthony-Tarantino/1717872026 Anthony Tarantino

    Do want!

  • no rply

    now thats gona rock with 323 ppi screen…. wish they use QQ-SD600 instead s4 pro…. still ok

  • Jeffrey Heesch

    I didn’t see any mention of RAM. Please, for the love of all that is Holy, please have 2 gigs of RAM.

  • Norman Rosevear

    Count me in, can’t wait, bring it on…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1017022109 Ryan Allen

    isn’t 7 a little too small? Wouldn’t 8 with half the bezel be much better??

  • Peter

    WHERE IS GPS??

  • ali

    Hey,Where is my MicroSD slot?

  • Pau C

    Is the S4 pro confirmed?, i’d like it to have a Tegra 3 or 4

  • David

    Needs a bigger battery. That’s smaller than the first nexus 7. And you raise the processor and screen resolution. Wow -.-

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