Leaked HTC M8 case hints possibility of second camera, new Bloomberg report backs up the idea

January 17, 2014

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    Going back a couple of months, there have been several rumors about the HTC M8, the HTC One’s next generation successor. More recently there have been leaks that help draw a picture of what to expect from the handset hardware-wise, but there are certainly at least a few mysteries left when it comes to the currently unannounced device.

    Considering that these components are fairly standard, the idea of the handset rocking a Snapdragon MSM8974 CPU with 2GB of RAM and a 5-inch 1080p display is fairly straightforward and believable. What’s less clear is whether or not the handset will have a fingerprint scanner and/or a dual-sensor camera system, as previous rumors have suggested.

    Citing “a person with direct knowledge” of HTC’s plans, Bloomberg claims the next-gen HTC One will debut in March with a twin-sensor rear camera.

    Is there any real evidence for either feature? Possibly, at least thanks to what is allegedly a leaked 3rd party OEM case for the HTC M8, coming by way of Alibaba. As you can see in the image below, the case shows an extra cut out right above where the camera/LED flash appears to be.

    Now, this could be confirmation of a fingerprint reader, but considering that the One Max’s fingerprint reader hasn’t exactly been hailed as a killer feature, we somehow have our doubts.

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    All current HTC M8 rumors indicate that HTC will be continuing its UltraPixel branding convention, but if they really want the HTC One’s successor to be a hit in the camera department, adding an extra camera lens for improved low light shooting could be one way to do it. It’s also possible that this could open the door for some kind of 3D capture system, though that’s purely speculation on our part.

    Interestingly enough, a new report from Bloomberg has been published today that lends further credence to the idea of a second camera. Citing “a person with direct knowledge” of HTC’s plans, Bloomberg claims the next-gen HTC One will debut in March with a larger screen of at least 5-inches and a twin-sensor rear camera. The purpose of twin sensors is that it will provide better focus, depth of field and image quality. The source says that the an improved version of the Ultrapixel camera will also be featured in the device.

    Now it’s important to take note of the fact that HTC has yet to confirm the legitimacy of the Bloomberg report and there’s also the possibility that the HTC M8 case might not turn out to be authentic, so speculation is advised. Still, it’s looking more and more likely that HTC is planning to do something different with its next generation HTC One.

    What do you think, would it make sense to bring a fingerprint reader to the device? Or do you think it’s more likely we are looking at dual cameras for the HTC M8? Let us know what you think in the comments.

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    • Amine Elouakil

      Also the S805 Rumors still persist, but I doubt it will happen due to Qualcomm launch schedule.

      The dual camera feature are here http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/7/5283368/toshiba-is-ready-to-put-a-lytro-like-camera-in-your-smartphone

      if HTC Adopt such design, then it will bring some real inovation to the smartphone camera world, it will be the “boomsound” of cameras.

    • MasterMuffin

      They just need to do something to those buttons, improve battery life and keep updating as fast as they have updated One and it’s awesome. Also smaller bezels would be great!

      • Luka Mlinar

        I can’t believe they still plan to put the power button on top.

        • MasterMuffin

          That and those two front buttons are just stupid. The HTC logo should either do something or go away and power button should be on the right side

          • jkenzo

            Never had any problems with the power button on top. Using the one for already 3 months, so that’s not an issue

        • Amine Elouakil

          power button is fine on the top of the One, on the One max it was an issue, and they put it on the side, so if the phone is too long and the one button can’t be reached as in the One max with one hand they’ll put on the side, of the phone has the same size as the current One it’s fine on top

          • blairh

            It is not ‘fine’. It’s a disaster. You have to shift your hand after waking your phone to use it. No other OEM puts their power/wake button on the top of their device when the phone features a screen 4.7″ and larger. And with good reason. It’s a huge flaw with the One and it blows my mind that HTC might do this yet again.

            • Amine Elouakil

              Do you have a One?

            • blairh

              You are dead wrong. I have used the One. I have average sized male hands. I cannot press the power button and then use the phone. I must shift down to use the phone after waking it. It’s a huge flaw. Droid-Life and other major sites have discussed this. There is an obvious reason why every other OEM places the wake button on the right edge. The One Max received the proper wake button because it would have been impossible for virtually anybody to use the phone properly with a wake button on such an enormous phone. You are a fool if you think the wake button should stay on the top. HTC are fools too if they don’t change this.

            • Amine Elouakil

              My hands are not that big they are average and I have no issue with the power button on the One, if it was an issue I would have said so, like I received a One with some gaps (first batch) I warned people of this, and got my phone changed withing 48hrs. And HTC as proven with the One Max they have no issue with putting the button on the side. (Also you said you have used so obviously you’ve never owned a One and never got used to using it, so you’ve just proved my point)

              Secondly not every OEM the power button on the side check you facts, Droid-life a major website? really? Anandtech, Engadget, TheVerge, CNET, IGN … that’s what I call a major website, and they haven’t gone as lenghtly as you make it sound, Not to mention the beauty of Android is that you have choice, if the One is big get the One mini, if you don’t like HTC then get another OEM.

              So you agree that HTC set the button on the One Max because it would be impossible to reach on one handed use, and at the same HTC coudn’t figure it out for the One, aren’t you being the fool here? that sounds illogical. HTC are not stupid and such decision are made and or approved by ergonomic engineers which are not design enginners ( I work in a different industry but that’s my job and I know this things works) If the person has a large enough hand to use the phone on a hand case scenario (reach the notification bar and at the same time the home and menu button with their thumb without any problem then normaly they can reach the power button with their index, if it’s not the case then the phone is too big for you so you either use it with two hands, or always stretch your hands and fingers which is not optimal.

              I don’t want a change for the sake of the change (You want them to either comply to your favorite brand or they are doing it wrong is this it? ) if the phone is to big then it’s necessary to change the button placement, either to the side or to the back or just find another inovative way to solve the issue.
              HTC has proven to be flexible about it and adapt their solution and relation to the size, so if the next One proves to be too long, they will not but the button on top without thinking about waking up the phone.

            • blairh

              You are such a f*cking loser. Get a life.

            • Amine Elouakil

              Can’t answer facts, ressort to insults. Pretty much proves who’s the fucking loser here.

            • sickoffanboysm

              Amine…really mate..are wasting yr time for him ?!

            • Amine Elouakil

              I agree :(

            • blairh

              You’re the loser for writing so a long reply. I don’t have the time to do the same because I have an actual life. Unlike you.

              Droid-Life has excellent reviews. To dismiss it because it may not obtain the daily views of more popular tech sites is ignorant.

              David Pierce, a reviewer for one of the most popular tech sites on the web, The Verge, is a terrible writer. Popularity of your site doesn’t equal quality of your reviews.

              Name me one OEM that offers phones with screens 4.7″ or larger that don’t feature the power/wake button on the side? The G2 is the only model I can think of and given it’s poor sales my guess is that LG will quickly abandon the buttons-on-the-back approach in the future. Surely no other OEM put the power button on the top of 4.7″ or larger devices.

              I have faith that HTC will maybe put power button on the side for the M8 as they did the One Max. But if they don’t, it’s a mistake. It was a mistake on the One to begin with. Regardless of what you say. It makes all the sense in the world to place the button the right side. Hence why virtually every OEM of such large devices do so.

            • Amine Elouakil

              Loser for proving you wrong while providing argumentations and facts? you are the one resorting to insults which pretty much proves which side is the loser

              Like or not Droid-Life is a subpar android website, and I’m a tech enthousiast, heck I’m even commenting in small techsites like this one, and I don’t know about Droid life so no it’s small and subpar.

              That’s why I didn’t mention one but mentioned many notorious websites, and if you want facts, I’ll invite you to read Anandtech artical, they treated EVERY single aspect of the phone and guess what award the One got there? oh yeah Anandtech are bad aswell right?

              LG G2 sold in millions what are you talking about? the only thing that killed it sells is the Nexus 5 (aka the same device for half the price) LG will not abandon the back button because it’s a good idea, also lol you changed your argument from all the brands makes the power button on the side to none of them makes 4.7″ phones with the powerbutton on the top, talk about strong believes, well let me return a similar question to you how many companies can you name building a 4.7″ or under as their current flagship? Now If you want to talk about previous generations, there dozens of smartphones that came in the 4.3″-4.7″ range with power button on top want me to name them?

              If the M8 is bigger than the M7 then yeah probably they’ll put on the side as I repeated in my previous posts, if the phone has similar dimensions then it might be an option. And that conclusion of yours not only it isn’t proven as shown above, but it’s wrong, other OEMs has 5″+ Flagships, the G2 the Note 3 the Z1 there is no room for comparaison here.

            • blairh

              You’re a fucking idiot. You have never even heard of Droid-Life. It’s an excellent site. G2 has sold poorly. I read an article about it on Phone Arena. Again, there are no other phones 4.7″ or larger that feature the power button on the top. You never address that and instead start bringing up phones smaller than 4.7″. HTC will continue to fade if they elect to put the power button on the top. It’s a huge oversight on their part.

              G2 poor sales.

              http://9to5google.com/2013/12/09/lg-g2-not-selling-as-well-as-anticipated-with-2-3-million-units-sold/

            • jbrandonf

              People aren’t buying the One because of the power button? Is this a serious analysis? Techies really have no idea what sells phones..

            • blairh

              I never said it was the power button alone. But I don’t think it’s something to take lightly. Waking your phone is the most common thing you do daily with your device. How you do this is crucial. The poor sales of the One and G2 aren’t 100% attributed to the placement of their wake buttons but I don’t think it helped their cause one bit.

            • jbrandonf

              I’d agree about the drastic change made with the G2 but I stand by it not applying with the One. Ergonomics is something that certain people care about.

              Otherwise what I usually hear is people asking for smaller phones in general. Their worried about it fitting in small purses or shallow pockets, something that convenient button placement still can’t fix.

            • blairh

              Honestly I don’t agree with you here. Ergonomics is a pretty common sense thing. People don’t need to actively think about it. They pick up a phone and they remark that they feel it’s too heavy or too light, they do or don’t like the back cover, the do/don’t like the physical buttons, etc. I’m sure sizing is a factor too, but the One’s button placement is a pretty big flaw IMO and consumers have noticed. Again, it’s not the sole reason the One has done poorly, but we are going to have to agree to disagree that it’s not a big deal on this device.

              Once your phone hits 4.7″ with respect to screen size, it makes no sense to place the wake button on the top. The One Max would have been unusable for most consumers had they kept the power button on the top. I’m really hoping that HTC will place the power button on the right for the M8.

            • jbrandonf

              Too heavy was only something I heard with the Lumia 920, which was a pretty hefty phone. Otherwise, unless I actually bring up the ergonomics nobody in my life experience mentions it. Or turns a phone down because of it.

              You’re reaching here in regards to the physical buttons I’m trying to tell you. The primary reason the One didnt sell is because HTC has no brand, and they don’t market effectively. People want status, and they gravitate toward what their friends say or the sales guy says or what the commercials say. Its not because of the storage, its not because of Sense, its not because of the battery, or anything else..its the branding.

            • blairh

              I’m sorry but if you don’t think button placement, feel of the phone, and weight, don’t factor into the equation then I’m just going to again disagree with you. I don’t care what customers do or don’t discuss with you. It goes beyond what brand a phone is. Now, I agree that the brand plays a big role. iPhone is iconic and trusted. Samsung is by far the dominant Android OEM and the S line is the most popular Android model. The popularity and marketing sadly play a large role in the purchase for most consumers. But it goes beyond that too for many consumers. Speaking of HTC, they were doing just fine up until a few recent years. They screwed up their lineup in 2012. They banked everything on the One last year. This year could really be a make or break year for them. I’m pulling for them. But they need a proper marketing strategy in the States and they need to fix that power button. Dismiss such a detail if you want but it’s common sense IMO.

            • jbrandonf

              You haven’t been paying attention. Their or venues have been slipping since way before the One X..since the S- line started taking off. Go back and look at their financials. Guess what though, that was back when they were offering removable batteries and the external storage!

              TThey’ve always had hefty phones too, with the power button on top. So if they were making record profits with power buttons in uncomfortable places, why would it all of a sudden impact them in 2011? Could it be the Galaxy S line?

              “The popularity and marketing sadly play a large role in the purchase for most consumers. But it goes beyond that too for many consumers.”

              Like who? Techies? Sure, I’ll agree with that. But the techie population is nowhere near big enough or even influential enough to keep a company like HTC in the black. Don’t kid yourself.

            • blairh

              Haven’t been paying attention? What are you talking about? I’m just referencing recent years. I’m sure their decline in part is not just their poor devices but also Samsung’s rise. Never said otherwise. Are you implying that their decline is related to not offering removable batteries and external storage?

              I’ve always disliked HTC’s placement of their power buttons. Again, it makes no sense for phones with screens 4.7″ or above. Honestly what drove their past success, in part, was that the competition in the Android world wasn’t nearly as good then as it is now.

              I never once said or implied that any group of people would put HTC back in the black. Why are you even implying such a thing? At least in the States 2012 was a disastrous year for HTC. The One X was a joke. (One US carrier, 12 GB usable storage, crippled multitasking.) The other models lesser offerings. Virtually no marketing presence in America. Perhaps I’m not the right person to state why the One hasn’t done well in America because I deem it a pretty flawed phone to begin with. (Power button placement, home button in the lower right, flush keys, 4 MP camera.) Yes, Samsung’s popularity is a factor here, but I don’t think that’s the sole reason. 2014 is a make or break year for HTC. Always said so from the start.

            • jbrandonf

              Methinks your self-admitted dislike for their power button placement is impacting your judgment regarding its affect on sales.

            • blairh

              I keep saying it’s not just the power button placement. Why would you even say that at this point???

            • Amine Elouakil

              Loser for proving you wrong while providing argumentations and facts? you are the one resorting to insults which pretty much proves which side is the loser

              Like or not Droid-Life is a subpar android website, and I’m a tech enthousiast, heck I’m even commenting in small techsites like this one, and I don’t know about Droid life so no it’s small and subpar.

              That’s why I didn’t mention one but mentioned many notorious websites, and if you want facts, I’ll invite you to read Anandtech artical, they treated EVERY single aspect of the phone and guess what award the One got there? oh yeah Anandtech are bad aswell right?

              LG G2 sold in millions what are you talking about? the only thing that killed it sells is the Nexus 5 (aka the same device for half the price) LG will not abandon the back button because it’s a good idea, also lol you changed your argument from all the brands makes the power button on the side to none of them makes 4.7″ phones with the powerbutton on the top, talk about strong believes, well let me return a similar question to you how many companies can you name building a 4.7″ or under as their current flagship? Now If you want to talk about previous generations, there dozens of smartphones that came in the 4.3″-4.7″ range with power button on top want me to name them?

              If the M8 is bigger than the M7 then yeah probably they’ll put on the side as I repeated in my previous posts, if the phone has similar dimensions then it might be an option. And that conclusion of yours not only it isn’t proven as shown above, but it’s wrong, other OEMs has 5″+ Flagships, the G2 the Note 3 the Z1 there is no room for comparaison here.

      • Amine Elouakil

        the buttons are fine and make much sens, try to use the phone for a couple of days and you’ see for yourself, so I would be more than happy if they keep the button scheme instead of going back and alienating their userbase, as for battery life, I totaly agree, extra battery life is more than welcome and modern smartphones doesn’t cut it, rumors says 2.8Ah battery, the butterfly has a 3.2Ah battery so I think it will be either, but in both case it will be better. As for the bezels, as long as they are not useless (boomsound twin speakers then I’m fine with it)

      • jbrandonf

        No, smaller bezels make reaching across the screen more frustrating when my palm touches it on one side. The bezels are fine.

        • MasterMuffin

          Wow your hands are small :P

          • jbrandonf

            Yup they are.

            • MasterMuffin

              Then you should think about it like this: it’s easier to reach everything with smaller bezels and some smart software things could make it understand when you’re touching and when your palm is just touching the screen

            • jbrandonf

              No. Smaller bezels mean the OEM is stretching the screen out (as is the case with the G2 and S4) rather than shrinking the width of the phone.

              I’d rather not have *another* thing running on the phone (smart palm software) that contributes to more CPU cycles being used. Just give me a decent bezel.

            • MasterMuffin

              But HTC is making the screen bigger, so if they keep the bezel size, it’s just going to be harder to reach everything. I really don’t understand your logic on this one :s Also with latest Snapdragon there’s really no need to worry about CPU cycles being used!

            • jbrandonf

              They should change the button placement then. My point is that its current placement has no effect on sales. Or its so minimal it doesn’t matter.

            • MasterMuffin

              Kk :)

    • AndroidBoss

      It doesn’t look very good from the back. Lets hope it looks as nice/nicer than the HTC One.

      • MITM

        thats a case for the phone, like Otterboxes etc… not the actual phone

    • Muyeed Mizan

      Could It Be A Fingerprint Scanner….?????

      • Jayfeather787

        Yeah, that might be possible actually.

      • Andreas Polycarpou

        Exactly

    • J_Pod

      I just hope they don’t end up with just twice the purple tint with two cameras as they did with the HTC One. That’s the only thing I dislike about the phone.

    • Sam Glxy

      HTC M8 is having lot of expectations !!!!
      http://www.edesignbuzz.com

      • Michael Muyunda

        lol that site bs…Android milkshake?

      • Amine Elouakil

        wow that some poor wordpress copy of the verge ui.

    • Cal Rankin

      I like the idea of a dual-camera setup. Potentially, it could use both cameras to deliver maximum image quality in any lighting situation. Let’s suppose, hypothetically, that HTC does release the M8 with two cameras on the back. One could be a lower-megapixel “ultrapixel” camera with larger sensors for better low-light shots, and another could be an 8-or-higher-megapixel unit for situations with more light. If they were able to have camera software that could use both cameras to deliver one spectacular image, that would certainly make this one of the best camera phones out there.

      I think that some people might really dig these HTC phones if memory card slots and possibly removable batteries are included. That really is the best thing Samsung has, and if HTC uses these features with their great hardware and software, I would really like this phone.
      And please bring back the onscreen keys!!

      • Brian Shieh

        I agree with the ultra-pixel and megapixel combination. Sounds like a great idea.

        • Cal Rankin

          If it works out well, I picture this being the best camera phone out there. If not, it will be a close second to the Lumia 1020.

      • IulianPeride

        maybe they should invest in a camera like what we have in lumnia 1520 and stop playing.
        People like big numbers and big numbers sell much more. Htc needs something to sell and get up on its feet again then they can try different things like ultrapixel, double cameras and more candies.
        Htc one was perfect but the camera was not good enough. Megapixels or ultrapixels in every shop I’ve seen it was written “4mpx” which I doubt it helped with sales.

        • Cal Rankin

          Gimmicks sell, too. Two cameras sounds like a gimmick, even though it could turn out some genuine results to prove the contrary. Phone manufacturers have sold phones with gimmicks because it’s the “latest thing.” Two cameras, one with possibly higher megapixels and another Ultrapixel camera, is just crazy enough to work.

      • jbrandonf

        Most customers don’t give a shit about being able to remove the battery or add storage, especially when 32gb is included. I guarantee you this..I sell phones.

        • Cal Rankin

          I still like it. Some people may not use it, but I enjoy the convenience of having one.

          • jbrandonf

            That’s great. You’re one of the few left.

    • Jayfeather787

      This would be a great idea for a 3D camera, like the Evo 3D. That or that case is completely wrong or the phone is going to have two massive LEDs, which I doubt.

    • dro

      The fingerprint is moved next to the lens, it’s that square cut out. On top of the lens is just a improved flash.

    • Rick jaan

      fingerprint scanner

    • sandman

      As a user of HTC One, it’s the best phone I have had the pleasure of owning, don’t really care what processor or ram they put in, as long as it isn’t lower than the current One (the one flies no matter what you throw at it). If this phone has a better camera that would be single biggest weakness the One has, and increased screen size within the same overall frame would definitely be an upgrade worth getting.

      • jbrandonf

        Agreed. I absolutely love my One.

    • Jermaul West

      Its not a camera its a finger print scanner.

    • moein

      HTC M8 will have fingerscanner?(read finger),,,,yes or no?

    • moein

      HTC M8 Will have fingerscanner(read finger)?yes or no?

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