Korea Herald: Iris scanner is out, fingerprint sensor is in on the Galaxy S5

January 20, 2014

    fingerprints scanner sensor (2) Fingerprint Cards AB

    According to a Korean publication, the Galaxy S5 will feature a fingerprint scanner rather than an iris scanner when it comes out later this year.

    The Korea Herald cites industry sources claiming Samsung will use a fingerprint scanner on its upcoming flagship because iris scanning technology is not mature enough for deployment. “Among the different types of biometric sensors that Samsung is testing for its Galaxy S5, the tech giant will go for fingerprint authentication rather than unintuitive user experience of iris recognition”, said the unnamed source.

    Lee Young Hee, VP of Samsung’s mobile business, recently told Bloomberg that the company is “considering the possibility” of equipping the S5 with an iris scanner. Lee’s statement was non-committing though, and for good reasons, apparently. According to another market source, iris scanning would require a separate camera with a “completely different design”, which would add cost and bulk to the product. We’re still one or two years away from deployment on a commercial scale, reports the Korea Herald, which also notes that Korean biometric tech companies denied they were supplying iris scanners to Samsung.

    Fingerprints scanner sensor Fingerprint Cards AB

    Samsung is said to be working on incorporating the fingerprint scanner right into the display, but it’s not clear from the report if the Galaxy S5 will feature this type of sensor. Fingerprint Cards AB, a Swedish company developing biometric technology, recently stated that it partnered with global players including some from South Korea. The company develops both swipe-based (HTC One Max-type) sensors and touch-based (iPhone 5S-type) sensors.

    As usual, a lot of rumors and unconfirmed reports are circling around Samsung’s new Galaxy S. Even though Korea Herald is among the most reputable English-language Korean publications, we are definitively taking this latest report with a grain of salt.

    What should Samsung do to make the fingerprint scanner work on the Galaxy S5?

    Comments

    • elros mente

      “What should Samsung do to make the fingerprint scanner work on the Galaxy S5?”…nothing,really Samsung don’t do this lol

      The worst is ….: out there,people trust in fingerprint sensor .
      I’m the only one who will never buy a device with fingerprint sensor?

      • A googler

        The finger print scanner works quite happily with our without your fingers being attached to your body :-)

        • nathan

          Nope, fingerprint scanners (at least the iPhone 5S’s fingerprint sensor) detects the sub-epidermal layers of your skin, so it will only work with living tissue

          “The [RF capacitive sensor] technology is built in a way that the [fingerprint] image has to be taken from a live finger,” Sebastien Taveau, an expert on fingerprint technology told Mashable.

          http://www.cbc.ca/newsblogs/yourcommunity/2013/09/iphone-5s-fingerprint-wont-work-with-a-severed-finger-after-all.html

          • TheMysteryMan

            And I will call BS on that. I have worked on capacitive fingerprint sensor development during my final year of ME. There are countless companies working on it right now. Those include RF Capacitive type as well as the sensors that actually detect blood oxygen saturation and pulse of the person.
            The former can be easily fooled. Finger has to be detached from the body for a long time before it will stop working, and even then there are workarounds.
            The readers that detect pulse and Oxygen saturation to ensure the person is indeed alive are safer, but even those are not foolproof.
            When it comes to critical infrastructure, most companies rely on multi stage, multi method authentication. Lof of high security places use biometrics + RFID or two biometric scans (iris+finger) and PIN to go along with it.
            I dont expect them to be available on consumer products yet. But irritates me when these company executives try to sell the product to end user as if it is completely secure and you only need live finger etc.

            • nathan

              yeah and seemingly giving us wrong info or ‘stretched-truth’ so provide a false sense of security, if what you’ve said above is true for the fingerprint scanner in the iphone 5S.

              Nonetheless, i am confident we will not see any occurrence of someones finger being cut off just to get into their phone. If they provide some sort of protection for that, they might also want to consider making games consoles out of marshmallow to protect gamers from having thier bulky ps4/xbox one snatched from their hands and beaten into submission with it before making their escape

            • Kevin

              surely no one thinks the ‘fingerprint’ scanners are foolproof? They are a basic line of security that do the job. I doubt they have gone in to detail with the tech to try and fool dead hands etc.

      • needa

        i have no interest in one. i guess if i could swipe my finger anywhere on the screen it wouldnt be that bad. or in the case of my x… put the scanner right smack dab in the middle where i start my active notif unlock. otherwise… it would be too cumbersome and i would never use it.

        • elros mente

          surely i’m not against the progress of technology,i simply say:now is not moment for fingerprint :)

          • Marco

            I agree. i don’t see the interest and i’m sure i would not use this technology. (S5)

            • nathan

              it is surprisingly useful if your ever in a situation where you need to awkwardly unlock your phone with one hand (while carrying bags for instance) or to make purchases in itunes without having to enter my very long and bulletproof password.

              Assuming further uses and integration in the future, i think it will be a standard feature (or some other form of instant biometric security feature) across all the major smartphone makers, but you gotta start somewhere, and as an owner of one it is pretty sweet in the 5S (when my hands aren’t sweaty)

    • A googler

      Just aping apple if they had used an iris scanner it would have been new and slightly original but this is just copying apple which for a company like Samsung is bad

      • needa

        have you seen the new samsung google now leak? they aped google also. its on android authority.
        nothing new really. samsung has had all of its success lately from copying others. they do make the cheddar from it though. so they must be doing something right.

        • asdfghjk

          And it’s a lot like HTC BlinkFeed

          Ps: HTC BlinkFeed is good, but Samsung should stop copying so much :/

          • Kevin

            If its good….. copy it… that’s how things evolve. It will make HTC do better and so on.

      • hoggleboggle

        Why aren’t you complaining that Samsung are copying Motorola who used fingerprint sensors long before Apple purchased the tech? or Sony or HTC or Toshiba or Lenovo or even themselves with some of their portable devices (not sure if they ever had one in a phone)? But as soon as Apple start using it everyone is copying? Have you ever considered that it is simply a case of the technology maturing enough to become viable on a commercial scale which is why it becomes more widely used?

        • needa

          I totally get what you are saying, but it’s not a matter of maturity for samsung. They wait for another company to mature it, or have great success with it, and then apply the tech to their stuff. The only things original in the Samsung camp are features that nobody uses. Read: not commenting on the note. But I’d imagine very few make use of note features either.

          • Kevin

            If the technology became ‘available’ after the final design of the S4, how else would you expect them to add it?

            Every company uses tech, and the same tech, just because one company released it before another doesn’t mean its a copy, it just means they released first. Everyone ‘copies’…. its who does it best that matters.

            Others have done finger print sensors before apple so apple ‘copied’ it from them, however they managed to get it working well to fix a problem that all manufacturers have (lock and security), so its bound to be reused by pretty much everyone until the next thing

            • nathan

              Everyone copies everything, adds their own touch, improves it etc. that’s development. Apple will take something that’s been done badly in the past, and make it work and appeal to the public. Samsung however (and a lot of other devices such as HTC with their tacky gold phones) tend to wait until a working version of something is released and only if it amazes everyone and makes loads of money will they put it in their own device, to me that’s the difference between development and just plain copying.

          • Bryan Z

            The thing with Samsung that is more obvious than other companies is that they are out for themselves, unlike Google or Apple that actually try to give you at least enough value for your money, whether that is a new Nexus, Google Glass, iPad Air or iPhone. This is also why they copy what works for other companies. Let’s just get ready for Samsung to make Tizen like Android and license it to LG and other companies

        • Bryan Z

          Even though you are right, and I agree with you to an extend but success in business is not about who makes what first it’s about who makes it profitable and appealing. Apple is very good at that which is why Samsung “copies” them instead of copying Motorola or Lenovo.

    • MasterMuffin

      Who really believed in that iris scanner being there?

      • MadCowOnAStick

        we thought maybe… because… apple lawsuit in 3… 2… 1…

        • MasterMuffin

          Apple didn’t invent fingerprint scanners :D Oh wait, that has never stopped them before…

          • MadCowOnAStick

            exactly… the moto atrix was the first phone to feature a fingerprint scanner, but motorola is too nice to sue apple

            • MasterMuffin

              Or Motorola understands that they’d loose miserably because it’s like suing someone for rectangles! Oh wait… :DD

            • nathan

              Or maybe because there’s was so crap most people are only hearing about it since apple released their own. Plus they cant patent a fingerprint scanner, only the methods they use to produce it and make it work (i think :P)

    • http://macgeeky.no/ Robert Sørensen

      Most users doesn’t use security at all, a fingerprints scanner like the iPhone 5S’ is a lot more secure than nothing at all.

      Samsung keeps on earning its money on copying features, names and software from others.

      • Kevin

        agree with your first line and I think the finger print scanners are perfect for locking mobiles. I don’t agree on the copying features bit though, EVERY company in the world copies, its not an identical copy, its copy and improve… thats how technology improves so i’m all for that. Samsung are trying to put the fingerprint scanner on the actual screen now which is a copy and improve so i’m happy with that one.

    • Jason Yuen

      Iris scanners are fancy, but offer no protection against being forced to unlock the phone with the use of physical violence. Granted, this may be an extremely small case, but when you’re talking about security, every small possibility is significant. Perhaps the iris scanner should be used in conjunction with a knowledge based passcode. Once the phone has been unlocked by iris scan AND passcode, convenience features like play store authentication, blinking based shortcuts, etc. can be implemented.

    • Jayfeather787

      Cool idea, but not interested. I think the conventional passwords are ok.

    • jack

      Again eating Appl’s dust!!

    • http://www.dazeinfo.com/ Amit Kumar Singh

      Smartphone market leader,
      Samsung has announced the arrival of its newest successor to the Galaxy S Series (Samsung Galaxy S5) it will be equipped with 16 MP camera with Optical Image Stabilization (OIS), A 5 Incg+ screen size & S5 will have 2600mAH battery . For more please have a look http://bit.ly/19KkYHo

    • Shaun Dutchy Davis

      Iphone 5S…. Galaxy S5…. lolol lawsuits??/

    • laylaylom

      Iris and fingerprint scanning are useless features.

    • Andrew White

      Iris scanning should be given the nod, regardless of initial cost. The price will come down as use or uptake widens. The fingerprint is an imperfect science.

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