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This week was, for many, dedicated to discussing Apple’s new operating system. Reactions have varied, from commenters in awe over the new design, to harsh criticism and a healthy dose of mockery.
In this week’s Friday Debate, we talk about the new iOS7, what it means for Android, and how it will change the mobile industry in general. Join us!
I think it’s pretty safe to say that I’m an Android fan… fanatic… fanboy, whatever. The fact is, I love Android. I love the current design implementations of the HOLO UI and I’ll scream #HOLOYOLO just as much as the next disciple of Matias Duarte will. With all that said, I’m a fan of Apple’s latest flavor of iOS. The previous iOS UI was old and outdated. It had not received a face list in 6 years. That’s right. From 2007 until 2013, iOS pretty much looked the same.
The latest UI overhaul changes the look and feel of iOS. The design is much more minimal and less in your face. I guess I like it so much because it doesn’t remind me of iOS. In fact, it reminds me of Android. It reminds me of Android’s current design guidelines a little. It’s clean. It’s simple. It’s sleek.
While we might be making fun of Johnathan Ive for copying Android via various memes (that I’ve laughed about), the updated design is great for iOS as a platform. We can make fun of iOS all we want, claiming that Android had many of the features announced today first (which is definitely true). However, everyone deserves a modern UI…even TouchWiz users. So, congrats iOS users.
There are enough iOS 7 jokes going round on the internet for me to skip out on the taunting and name calling, and allow me to get right into the pros and cons of iOS 7.
I’m going to make it clear that I’m not a fan of the new design. It seems as if they made a new design for a new design’s sake. When I read the rumors, the words that got tossed around a lot were a flatter design and two color UI’s, a darker version and a lighter version. I thought well that makes sense, Jony Ive likes his industrial, classy design and there is a black/slate iPhone and a white/silver iPhone, so a dark/light UI would make sense. Instead what I was faced with was an abomination. The flatter design was there, but I was faced with neon bright colors and icons that were very poorly designed. Some app icons went from dark to light contrast, some went light to dark, and some didn’t change at all. Considering Jony Ive’s quest for perfection I didn’t expect this at all. But we soon found out it was Apple’s marketing department had designed them, and that they were subject to change.
See here’s the thing Apple. The design of iOS wasn’t the problem, it was iOS’s functionality or rather lack of functionality. Apple went a long way to fixing these problems by offering improved intelligent multitasking (this might just be the only feature that beats Android). It also added toggles, which were sorely missed.
But then there were the things Apple didn’t do. Look past the glitter and shine of the new UI and you’ll realise that the homescreen is almost exactly the same. Those static apps are the only things that can adorn the homescreen, and you know what that means guys, no widgets. In fact, what was truly hilarious was the way Apple tried to sidestep the lack of widgets, by adding them into other elements of the UI. Notice the “Today” tab in the notification panel, which is basically a calendar widget.
That brings me to my next point about functionality, notifications. Other than the new paint job, notifications are still horrible in iOS. For example if you have a bunch of notifications with regards to Google Plus and you’d like to get rid of them you can’t. It’s all or nothing in iOS and that is a serious problem.
There’s also no choice of default apps and keyboards, but in the end Apple was hamstrung by its own users. It pushed as much as it could to change iOS without upsetting its legacy users who don’t like change (although a minority still disliked iOS 7).
So in the end iOS 7 is a strong stride forward for the iOS platform, but not the giant leap that it needed to be to surpass Android (at least in my eyes). That said I’m interested in checking out the new “intelligent multitasking” and the gorgeous photos app (Jonny Ive that’s how all of iOS should look like). But even then I believe Android is still on top, although by less of a margin than before, and with the next version of Android coming out soon, I don’t see that margin decreasing anytime soon.
I’ll start out with the nice stuff; iOS 7 is certainly an improvement for Apple customers, and there are no sour grapes from me about the company finally catching up, everyone deserves the best from their brand of choice. A lot of the good stuff came in the form of improved functionality, and iOS 7 certainly seems like an OS that I could use.
Having said that, I think that the color scheme is absolutely hideous, and without the ability to change the skin, I’m turned off from iOS 7 based on appearance alone.
But let me get to my real bugbear, the marketing. It’s the same nonsense which irritates me about almost every release event, the buzz words and the blatant lies, and Apple really took the biscuit this time.
We all know that many of iOS 7′s “innovative” features have been around on Android for ages. Whilst I’m not opposed to taking inspiration from good ideas, selling them to people as “new” is cringe-worthy at least, and down right infuriating once you see less informed individuals lap it up.
For me iOS 7 symbolizes everything that’s wrong with Apple; it’s all about the image, but lacks any real inspiration.
On the other hand, I’m quite happy to let Apple sit in the corner quietly rocking back and forth trying to convince itself that it’s still innovative, that it still “has it”. There’s something wonderfully tragic about the whole affair.
the other perspective.
The reactions – it’s beautiful, it’s innovative, it’s amazing. One notable “analyst” even said that Samsung should look at Apple for pointers on how to use phone sensors cleverly… Seriously? Eye tracking is gimmicky, but paralax effects are clever??? Next, he said something along the lines of “Mountain View, start your photocopiers”. SERIOUSLY?
Okay, rant over. I am not upset about Apple “borrowing” elements from Android (and other operating systems). Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and as my colleagues said, having a strong opponent is good for Android.
My reactions to the new design: many icons are a mess, especially that compass icon, it looks so amateurish. The color palette is extreme. Apple has lots of uptight, mature users – how will they like it, I wonder? Besides, the palette doesn’t play well with the industrial design of the iPhone. Next, the new iOS seems to have lost that much lauded consistency it used to have. For instance, the Game Center looks nothing like the rest of the OS.
I am sure that much will change in iOS until it begins pushing to users this fall. Probably, some new and colorful iPhones will come out by then, with a design that matches the unicorn-barfs-rainbow theme. Those icons – I am sure they will be substantially changed.
Looking beyond the design, the new iOS is not that innovative as Phil Schiller sells it to be. Yes, it narrowed the gap between it and Android, but Apple’s OS isn’t, by any means, the most advanced operating system in the world. Worse, the new design may cause more people to realize it.
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I agree wholeheartedly with Triggs. I don’t mind them updating their UI and using stuff that they had once put down. But when they pawn these things off as “new editions” and seeing articles about the “new features” really irritates me.
Totally agree, hate those “new” statements
they pawned them off as new features for iOS!!… seriously none of these “reporters” actually watched the keynote and are offering opinions in response to commentaries made by other “reporters”.
Apple mostly poked fun at itself in the keynote and basically used WWDC to say “we acknowledge that iOS was way off track but we have made some solid changes and added the obvious omissions of past iOS releases”. The only shot they took at another platform was regarding NFC sharing compared to P2P Wi-Fi
Yea, but even that was misleading because Samsung devices, any maybe others, can use Wi-Fi direct for sharing. NFC just makes it more universal with other devices that also use NFC
samsung and misleading in the same sentence hmmm… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf5-Prx19ZM
I THINK THE UI IS AMAZING. BEFORE, APPLE’S ADVANTAGE TO ANDROID IS THEIR APPSTORE. APPLE’S APPSTORE IS REALLY GOOD AND FULL OF HIGH QUALITY APPS COMPARED TO ANDROIDS PLAYSTORE W/ 90% USELESS APPS. NOW THE ONLY THING THAT ANDROIDS SHOULD BE AFRAID OF IS THE SCREEN SIZE. ONCE APPLE RELEASE A 5 INCH PHONE I THINK WE WILL SAY GOODBYE TO ANDROID. APPLE HAS GOOD APPSTORE, NOW WITH GREAT UI, BUT LACKS IN SCREEN SIZE.. TSK TSK SAMSUNG SHOULD WORRY.
we? who’s we? speak for yourself..
Haha. . The comment is so funny and ridiculous I don’t even want to reply. Get your facts right Apple boy. Maybe you might wake up in a world where the world is not being run by sheep.
Are you kidding me ?! Their new UI is horrid and it angers me as a designer that a team of professional designers with an infinite amount of resources, in the end could only come up with this.
I have apps on my (non rooted) phone that is not possible to have on iOS without jail breaking.
AND WHAT’S WITH THE CAP LOCKS??
in fairness… i have access to 300,000 apps on my iPhone that i can’t get on my HTC One
^ serious question… this guy
I think you’ve misunderstood my point. Most/all apps on iOS can be developed for Android but for numerous reasons the developer hasn’t. Some of the apps on my phone simply can’t be developed for iOS because of the restrictions.
caps lock gone wrong bro ?
Yeah you forgot to mention that only Apple products have the Retina Display. ;-) :-P LOL
We own a couple of iPod Touch’s, an iPad 3, an Asus Transformer TF300 and 3 Android smartphones. Although I appreciate the iPad 3 battery performance over the Asus TF300 (which sux in that department), I always found IOS to be too restrictive and somewhat dull. I would have expected Apple to take it a bit further, but IOS7 looks way better to me than any previous version. If Apple would lauch an iPhone with no less than 4,7″ screen I would, for the first time ever, seriously consider buying one.
Ok, I am no android fanatic in any way, but to me iOS always seemed like the “transition” OS. People coming from feature phones and dumb phones who did not really want a long learning curve. I have used an iPhone for a considerable length of time, and it sorely lacks in functionality, and iOS7 does nothing to amend that. Seriously, going from iOS to android was like night and day. Features I had used workaround in iPhone were simply there in android. What sold me was the fact that apps can talk to each other, every app seemed inter connected with the OS itself.
The problem with iOS is not how it looks, but deeper, at the kernel level. Apple has locked the OS down soo much for it to be any more than a smart-dumb OS. An OS that can technically be called a smart OS but not completely there either.
Good luck to apple. Hope iOS8 actually does something to change this
lol, what lack of functionality exactly?
I just ask because 99% of the children here don’t use 2% of the power of their phones, (using it mostly for social networking) and i’ve found almost nothing besides torrenting, and superficial things in terms of what I can do now, compared to when i had an iphone.
I still VPN in to my house, i still ssh into server to update them, i still monitor my ip camera network, i still run plex. VNC apps on android are kind of a joke compared to iteleport ~ but non withstanding, they work. I did the same active directory administration with my mobile phones at work as i did with iOS. I would really like to know what actual work you think you can get done with one that the other one can’t do.
for both of them i use filemanagers that connect both to my home servers via sftp, and several dropbox accounts, and while my gs3 does give me the ability to edit any document, it’s because i’m rooted. If i were jailbroken again i would have ifile. Same shit.
You know the problem with most kids who do comparisons on this site? They scratch the surface but know fuck all about the actual OS. like you.
so many fucking kids.
Dude, am a mathafucking network engineer. Using big words like ssh and the like do not scare me, i was born with them, raised in them. I did not know any other abbreviation and by that time i was a grown man. We have a rule in my country, assumption is the mother of all fuck ups. First you assumed that am a kid, wrong! Then you assumed I know jack shit about networking, wrong! You went a step further to think I do not know anything about the OS am talking about. I have been compiling Android ever since I was in college.
Dont be soo ignorant next time
big words like ssh? (you do know how ridiculous you sound, right?) You’re a network “engineer”, well i’m a level 3 tech for a fortune 20 holding company. So what? I don’t care about that. You don’t know fuck all about iOS, or you wouldn’t have written what you wrote:D
Sharing in iOS has been dumb easy since iOS 4, and got real in iOS 6. Please tell me about what you actually do, non superficially. I use filemanagers that connect to my home server via sftp plus 2 dropboxes and my gdrive, and can freely move files between all those stores. Why not tell me some real work work scenarios, that don’t involve clock widgets?
no, don’t talk about the actual work part of my post, AD administration, starting tape backups, Let’s not talk about what tools you use on your phone to do your network administration job; let’s not talk about cool hacks you’ve done with your phone (my ipad for example, can control my plex server through siri. can you ask your phone to play archer on your big screen?) What’s so fucking cool that i can’t do with iOS?
no, instead why don’t respond to me that you were born and raised by ssh:/
I don’t have to assume you don’t know what you’re talking about. I can tell by what you say.
The icons are from a Teletubby theme of some kind.
U forgot a choice, Are you impressed with IOS 7 => Don’t care. That said, Adam Koueider sums it up nicely.
If you wouldn’t care, you wouldn’t be here in the first place.
Reminds me of MIUI
MIUI was designed specifically to look like iOS.. this statement makes no sense.
it does, he just didn’t know that.
“No! it’s Horrible” ahh come on!!!
i hold both an Xperia Z & an iPhone, and if i limited my use of iPhones it’s cause of hardcore fanboys…i can see that this place is not too different….MAAN I’M SICK OF THIS!! Sheople everywhere!!
you go bashing something you don’t understand just cause it’s the other clan, at LEAST use it before you start judging!
I agree there is quite a bit of iPhone bashing here but it isn’t as bad as other sites I used to frequent where Android bashing was rampant
i’ve found about 5% or less of the people who bash one platform have actually used it.
This website, is as bad as apple insider. Filled with idiots.
‘notifications are still horrible in iOS’. That is funny. How can I disable the notifications for a particular app in android? Aaaaa it is hidden behind Application Manager. Very convenient. How about a choice of how a notification should come up? As an alarm or on a lock screen or quietly on top bar? No, there are no options like that I am afraid. Worse…it is up to a developer how to deal with that topic…or not. You never know a place where the notifications settings are covered in an application. I also find this little number of received notifications placed in a badge very usefull. Having SGN II I do not find the notifications any better. One more thing. Before you can deal with a notification you have to get one. My observation is that iOS devices receive the notifications sooner and are more reliable. I mean comparing the same applications on either systems. Before you guys criticise so hard something prepare a solid background.
I think that is good WP and Android port.
Let’s be honest, apple have a huge fan base and have marketed their devices to the Moms and Dads, Nan’s and Pops and pre schoolers. Now there is a group of people you don’t want to mess with! So the problem is, how do you change a UI / OS enough to satisfy an individuals desire to control what goes on with their phone, yet keep it looking familiar enough so Nan can find her Favorite app? Enter iOS 7. Apart from the heavily borrowed android tweaks, its really still limiting to those folks who want more. Basically a drop up and down menu. A couple of background features, but that’s about it. In my household half of us run android the other iOS. So I know them both pretty well. IOS 7 was also downloaded on a number of apple devices (developer beta edition) so I’ve also had a good play. The initial excitement was high, then the thought of not being able to control any of the new features set in. It does look nice, but still had that Apple in control feel.
did you mean jailbreak tweaks? You know that sbsettings for jailbroken iOS was introduced around the same time as the G1 right?
Do people not remember things before 2010?
What do you think of iOS 7?
Never crossed my mind.
Ignorance is bliss. :)
All I can think of when I see iOS 7 is that some how Mattel managed to get it’s design people into Apple’s offices.
“Whilst I’m not opposed to taking inspiration from good ideas, selling them to people as “new” is cringe-worthy at least, and down right infuriating once you see less informed individuals lap it up.” this sentence sums up all my thoughts. I think it’s not iOS the problem (yes, it lacks something, but that can be fixed relatively quickly), it’s what is behind it the problem.
I have an ipad mini and the ios7 is not available to me.
How do I get it?
Main 3 problems:
-Still a major lack of customization ability
-They added lots of functionality, but it still falls short of android.
-they sell it as the most advanced and innovative OS around
Grid of new icons
Using it right now and it’s excellent. iOS 6 was streets ahead of Android as a mobile OS anyway, so this just furthers Apple’s lead.
In what way IOS is ahead of android? Can u explain please..
Sure. I find iOS a lot more enjoyable and productive to use. iOS 7 makes it even more enjoyable. As all the OSes do everything I could possibly want, which is better boils down to which one is the most enjoyable to use, and allows me to get on and do things with minimal fuss and complexity.
In a few, (and keep in mind, Android is well ahead of iOS in other areas, i don’t find a clear winner personally)
•control of notifications
•consistent music playback from better locations, including the background.
•application quality (sadly, but there are some notable exceptions)
•security (find my iphone etc, wipe lock, etc an i run cerberus on my android products, but it’s no where near as good)
•project butter, still has a ways to go to get cozy with iOS (and WP8 for that matter)
there’s a few.
not much. it’s behind android, there are a few nifty tricks though. nice thing is that since they have now copied from every single mobile OS around – they would have to be delusional to play the “patent” game anymore. not even their own fans will believe their “virgin” design claim
The problem is that although iOS needed a refresh, they’ve decided on the new theme and are going to impose it. Want to keep the old theme? Tough luck. Don’t like the new theme? Tough luck. Contrast this with the Android approach, which provides a default stock look but then permits the user to install the look of their choice from the app store. In the end, it’s not the actual appearance of the UI per se, but the fact that it’s not locked down – this is what always gives Android the edge. I’ve attempted to argue the toss on this with iOS users before, and always get the “but I wouldn’t want to change the look, I like it as it is” response. Well now they are being FORCED to have a new look, and they’re getting no say whatsoever. Time will tell whether Apple has gone too far. Like ‘New Coke’, I suspect before long there will be at least a choice of official themes even if you can’t make your own. It’s 3 months until launch, so perhaps the one that’s been previewed will be just one of several.