The second Samsung keynote is currently underway in Las Vegas and the company already has a very interesting product to announce – one we suspected was coming – the Exynos 5 Octa high-performance power-efficient big.LITTLE ARM-based SoC.
That’s right, the Exynos 5 Octa will have eight cores, or two sets of four cores, some of them ready to handle complex tasks, while others meant to deal with day-to-day regular smartphone and/or tablet tasks that don’t require a huge amount of processing power.
While we don’t have all the details on this particular new 28nm processor just yet, chances are that we’re going to see it in future high-end Samsung Android devices. Two of them already come to mind, the Galaxy S4 and the Galaxy Note 3, which will most likely be launched later this year. Adding some credence to the speculations, a recent report from the Korean media states that the Galaxy S4 might feature an octo-core big.LITTLE CPU.
We will be back with more details about this new Exynos 5 Octa chips once we have them, meanwhile you can start dreaming about the mobile devices of tomorrow featuring the new SoCs.
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I understand 8 cores, 4 (A15′s maybe?) for high performance and 4 (A7′s?) for low tasks as for texting, email etc, but Android apps and games really dont need even 4 cores at the moment…I dont see the point
Maybe not now but apps and games continue to grow and become more taxing on the processors. This is more for a future proofing
Ah yes i can see where you are coming from, this is what they should have done with the international GS3, it should of had a quad core with 2GB of ram
I agree and luckily now the tech is to the point where the high ends will be more future proof than high ends were last year because they re getting true top of the line specs that should hod up for 2 years in most cases,
Multi-core x86 processors came out 7 years ago. Very few pieces of x86 software know what to do with 2 cores, let alone 4 and certainly not 8. On ANY platform, single threaded performance is still king. That’s exactly why AMD is almost dead. Their single threaded performance still sucks. I would be much more interested in 2xA15 running 2.5Ghz+ and per core clock control. Sadly, Samsung must market to the numpties.
Really, the fault lies with all the moronic hardware reviewers over the last decade who rely solely on synthetic benchmarks to value a processor’s worth. A 2Ghz 8-core processor will bench much better than a 4Ghz Dual-Core, but for 99% of workloads, the Dual-core would crap all over the 8-core.
The quad will also be better with battery life as well which is one of the main selling points. Plus how do you know that the next version of android won’t support and benefit from more cores?
All things being equal…how can a quad have better battery life than a dual-core chip? Perhaps you’re accounting for better chip design and process technology in your argument. But mathematically, your argument doesn’t make sense.
Intel ran some tests earlier last year and specifically stated that Android does not make efficient use of multi-core processors. In summary, Rodger is dead-on right.
Quad core separates things amongst the cores which would use less power and not need to be clocked as high as the dual core to get similar results, resulting in less battery consumption
Not necessarily, with newer processors, they usually have newer technology which can decrease the power use. Look at Dual Core Intel Pentium D 820 processors which use what? around 95w of power. Compare that to an Intel Q9550, which uses the same amount (95w), but will mop the floor with the Pentium D. Or lets even compare the Pentium D 820 with the Intel Atom D525 1.8ghz which uses only 13w of power, is a dual core processor with hyperthreading and beats a 3.0ghz Pentium D. The other feature a lot of these Quad+ core processors are touting is the fact that cores can be shut off to reduce power consumption as well. So if your phone is idle, it can shut off 2-3 processors that aren’t being used. But if there’s a tasking processing happening, it can ramp up all 4+ cores to give you the power you need.
Time to change my Note, lucky for me I am not bound by a 24 month contract and have an 18 month (had it since it last March) so I can wait till September/October for my renewal, just in time for the Note 3.
If this is only about CPU power, I absolutely don’t understand the point for a smartphone SoC. Much too much battery drain and no use for compute tasks (Exynos 5 DUAL is already very powerfull, just read about the Nexus 10 witch already has battery drain issues). And what about the GPU ???
dude, that’s why it has 8 cores. 4 super powerful ones and when you don’t need them, there are for slow and power efficient ones so the battery doesn’t drain…
I understand the point but I doubt such a monster will be more power-efficient than a Snapdragon S800.
this CPU is probably (obviously) more powerful than s800.
Certainly. What to do in a phone ? I choose battery life before useless power.
Err…do your research on the Exynos processors before making generalisations about battery life. This is why members of the public are NOT part of the SOC designing process on stuff they know little about.
So I guess you’re a member of such a design team ?
Actually, you’re the one looking like a complete and utter numpty. Who cares what you think dude, seriously, stop whining and let the rest of us enjoy what the future brings.
kascollet is just stating his opinion. Nothing wrong with that…as long as it holds water. George Av & you may disagree…but its been reported that the international version of the GS3 does have a battery drain issue.
some people might say that, i have not had that issue. %50 going to bed woke up and still %50. my phone lasts a average of 26 hours with about 2-3 hours onscreen time.
Exynos CPU’s are Extremely battery efficient.
Totally wrong. They devour juice and still offer nothing but raw CPU power. Exynos 4 quad & 5 dual both give :
- very good CPU power (and plenty enough, 4XA15 in a phone is ridiculous for 2013)
- poor GPU power (sorry, pure fact, Malis are below average)
- much worst battery drain compared to Qualcomm and Apple’s SoC
George…I know you love Samsung just as much as I hate them. But let’s wait before comparing the “Octo” against a non-existent processor. Just remember that Qualcomm has Krait!
Because of the combination, it will probably be about the same or maybe even better (!) And it’s more powerful so really, what’s the problem? :)
This thing is Amazing! They demoed this CPU playing a FULL HD video and playing need for speed most wanted, all without a SINGLE lag. This thing eats Tegra 4 for lunch
Samsung Galaxy Note III is gonna be awesome. I can tell from now.
Amazing 1080p flexible YOUM displays, latest Android systems and super fast CPU’s.
Some said the Nvidia Tegra 4 with 4 cores was a good SoC, others insisted on the quad core Snapdragon 800.. Samsung just made a SoC with 8 cores of pure win!
yep, that’s a reason it would rape anything.
Let’s wait for the benchmarks before deciding who the winner is. Its way too soon to declare ANYBODY the winner when NOBODY has provided any official benchmarks
Samsung is *NOT* the market leader in application processors or process technology.
In terms of process technology…Intel has a estimated two year lead over Samsung in process technology. Their chips will be significantly less power-hungry than the Samsung “Octa”. Further, TSMC’s process technology is also ahead of Samsung’s. TSMC’s newly introduced node, 28HPM, should provide a better performance than Samsung’s 28LPH.
In terms of processors, let’s wait & see some benchmarks before stating that Samsung’s “Octo” is in a league of its own.
Whomever said they were, fanboy?
I’m merely giving people perspective. Fanboy…I am not. Although sadly…I doubt you even understood what I wrote.
while you wait the Octa will power on…
Power what? Nobody (Samsung, nVidia, Qualcomm) has announced any release dates.
8 cores… listen to that for a moment… 8 cores for mobile computing… Android being barely multithreaded, apps much less.
Now we are saying 4 low perf cores for mail, what a nonsense.
Well … This is kind of putting a halt in my tracks. I was intending to get a GN2 shortly. just not sure I can wait this long though
This is bs, 8 cores for a mobile platform… It’s purely marketing. Guarantee it won’t benchmark any higher than a quad core in terms of e gaming and computing. They’re just getting ridiculous.
Just give me a release date for the gs4 on verizon already!